The Steve Turner Discussion Thread.

[mb63]

Would like to see the Titans expand on this partially written agreement.Did it have a signature?

[philstorm]

Would like to see the Titans expand on this partially written agreement.Did it have a signature?

He only wrote his first name.

[philstorm]

I'm just wondering, but could Steve's manager have forged his signature on the 'partially written' contract that Searle says he has?

Steve has come out and said that he has signed NOTHING, so it just brings back memories of the Moi Moi saga where Gavin Orr signed on the dotted line without informing the player that he had done so ...

[Penrith Rhino]

He can't force Turner to do anything. If Turner doesn't want to go, he wont go. Sure he might be sued by the Titans, but at the end of the day it comes down to what he wants to do.

Are you saying that he should do a Gordon Tallis - sit out the season??? I couldn't see Steve doing that, as he has only just really started to secure a regular spot in a NRL top side (at Melbourne). He (Gallop) can force Turner in NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY in the NRL, meaning he would not be able to play for Melbourne (or any other side for that matter) for the duration of the term he agreed to play for the Gold Coast for. If the NRL don't register his contract he signed with the Storm, then he won't be playing in the NRL next season. At this early stage, the only place that Steve Turner will be playing in the NRL is with the Titans. However, events and discussions over the next few days may see that change.

[mb63]

I'm just wondering, but could Steve's manager have forged his signature on the 'partially written' contract that Searle says he has?

Steve has come out and said that he has signed NOTHING, so it just brings back memories of the Moi Moi saga where Gavin Orr signed on the dotted line without informing the player that he had done so ...

Quite possible,maybe thats why Turner's manager is siding with Titans.

[philstorm]

Are you saying that he should do a Gordon Tallis - sit out the season??? I couldn't see Steve doing that, as he has only just really started to secure a regular spot in a NRL top side (at Melbourne). He (Gallop) can force Turner in NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY in the NRL, meaning he would not be able to play for Melbourne (or any other side for that matter) for the duration of the term he agreed to play for the Gold Coast for. If the NRL don't register his contract he signed with the Storm, then he won't be playing in the NRL next season. At this early stage, the only place that Steve Turner will be playing in the NRL is with the Titans. However, events and discussions over the next few days may see that change.

That wont happen. If the NRL don't approve his contract and if Turner still doesn't want to leave, then I feel pretty sure that the Titans will do the right thing and let him go.

[philstorm]

Quite possible,maybe thats why Turner's manager is siding with Titans.

Yeh that's what I was thinking mate. Damn player managers! :curse:

[Titanium_BD1103]

Well I can guarantee you who will hate each other come season 2007 and what game will bring fireworks.... GOLD COAST VS MELBOURNE... :lol!:

Yes with the response from the Storm and everything that has happened, now Searle has called the Storm bullies... enjoy the reading...

From: www.smh.com.au

Titans brand Storm 'bullies' over Turner
August 17, 2006 - 4:41PM

Gold Coast chief executive Michael Searle has accused Melbourne of bullying the NRL newcomers in the bitter tug-of-war over Storm winger Steve Turner.

The Titans had trumpeted the recruitment of Turner on a three-year deal in June but the 21-year-old this week re-signed with the Storm saying he had not signed a contract or letter of intent with the Gold Coast.

Titans boss Searle has branded the Storm's actions in trying to re-sign Turner for 2007 as "reprehensible" and "disrespectful" to the fledgling club.

Searle met with NRL chief executive David Gallop in Sydney to discuss the matter, which will likely be resolved by the league in the coming days.

"We feel that the efforts in the Melbourne Storm to secure Steven's services, despite the knowledge of this agreement, to be reprehensible," Searle said.

"We also think it's disrespectful to the Gold Coast Titans administration and its fans.

"If our advice had've been heeded on Tuesday when we said we had an agreement with Steve we wouldn't be in this situation.

"The Storm's tactics were bullying, they were very bullying on Tuesday, to sign an agreement with the knowledge he had already come to terms with us.

"The Gold Coast of old may have rolled over but this organisation won't.

"Subject to David Gallop's determination on the matter, Steven Turner will not be granted a release to play for the Melbourne Storm in 2007.

"He had approached us the week prior and we had, after long consideration between the coaching staff and myself, declined his request.

"The events of the past week have been greatly disappointing, not only for the Gold Coast Titans, but for rugby league fans in general."

? 2006 AAP

[The Ballboys]

I certainly hope Steve "Turncoat" Turner is forced to play for the Titans, just so Carty can leave him in reserve grade, where the dishonest, filthy dog deserves to be.

The simple fact is that when he "agreed terms" with the Titans earlier in the year he was unsure if he'd even play first grade when the Storm players all came back on board. Now he is the only player to play all games for the Storm (this year) and he know feels comfortable that he will get a start.

If he does end up staying in Melbourne, I would suggest we should look at Mick De Vere. De Vere has already mention he wants to return to Qld next year and the whisper I have heard is that De Vere and Lockyer are not on talking terms**, so this could rule out the Bronc's. Great player at Wing, Centre and FB and can also kick goals.

**Absolutely no founding for this statement, just a whisper doing the circles at Broncos games.

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Gold Coast chief executive Michael Searle has accused Melbourne of bullying the NRL newcomers in the bitter tug-of-war over Storm winger Steve Turner.

The Titans had trumpeted the recruitment of Turner on a three-year deal in June but the 21-year-old this week re-signed with the Storm saying he had not signed a contract or letter of intent with the Gold Coast.

Titans boss Searle has branded the Storm's actions in trying to re-sign Turner for 2007 as "reprehensible" and "disrespectful" to the fledgling club.

Searle met with NRL chief executive David Gallop in Sydney to discuss the matter, which will likely be resolved by the league in the coming days.

"We feel that the efforts in the Melbourne Storm to secure Steven's services, despite the knowledge of this agreement, to be reprehensible," Searle said.

"We also think it's disrespectful to the Gold Coast Titans administration and its fans.

"If our advice had've been heeded on Tuesday when we said we had an agreement with Steve we wouldn't be in this situation.

"The Storm's tactics were bullying, they were very bullying on Tuesday, to sign an agreement with the knowledge he had already come to terms with us.

"The Gold Coast of old may have rolled over but this organisation won't.

"Subject to David Gallop's determination on the matter, Steven Turner will not be granted a release to play for the Melbourne Storm in 2007.

"He had approached us the week prior and we had, after long consideration between the coaching staff and myself, declined his request.

"The events of the past week have been greatly disappointing, not only for the Gold Coast Titans, but for rugby league fans in general."

? 2006 AAP

That is absolute crap. I'm happy to accept that it's the responsibility of both parties to get this into shape, but for Mr Searle to come out and say this isn't very nice because it's a cheap shot on the Storm!

If Turner doesn't get a release then all hell will break loose ...

[philstorm]

Rubbish. He isn't a turncoat, stuff like this happens all the time. Fui Fui Moi Moi, Jackson Nicolau all 'agreed to terms' only to sign elsewhere later on.

[mb63]

Rubbish. He isn't a turncoat, stuff like this happens all the time. Fui Fui Moi Moi, Jackson Nicolau all 'agreed to terms' only to sign elsewhere later on.

Also Storm released Hill,Chan & Kidwell from their contracts which enabled them to secure more attractive deals with their new clubs.They all leave with the Storm's best wishes.Titans now have a situation where they will try & force a player to play with them even though he doesn't want to.This stance will do them more harm than good in the long term.No doubt Turner agreed to play with Titans but the fact is he doesn't want to go there now.Storm let Titans speak to Friend,Webster & Turner before June 30 so I don't think they have been unreasonable.Looks like this saga may continue for a few days yet.

[mb63]

The Storm weren't bullies when they let the Titans talk to 3 of their players before June 30.

[philstorm]

The Storm weren't bullies when they let the Titans talk to 3 of their players before June 30.

Exactly ...

[Steve Dangerous]

Perhaps we should keep Turner discussions to one thread? This article has been posted there too, and it's the same sorts of discussions that are bound to take place.