Tri-Nations teams named

[Super Cronk]

Cooper has been picked in the Australian Invitational Team to play NZ A

Hmmm....then i dont know how tate got in over him.

[Steelers]

Hmmm....then i dont know how tate got in over him.

Well it is quite simple really. Bennett was picking his Bronco 'favourites'. Not surprising.

I bet if Hodges was in the squad, he would get in over Gasnier lol

[kazza broncos chick]

Yeah well hodges was in the sqaud but not considered cus he is injured, same with Bailey and Hindmarsh.
Tate has played well in the games that he has played this year, finished the end of the season way better than Berrigan, thats why Berrigan missed out.He is good in defence and has the combination with Lockyer. He WILL NOT let the Aussies down

[Dakink]

May not let them down but wouldnt be there on form if it wasnt for Bennett's old boys club.

[Coaster]

Hate to bring Stats into the forum again, but there interesting.

Tates 18 games this year
Offloads 16
Kicks 10
Try Assists 7
Line Breaks 12
Hit ups 229
Meters gained 2313
Dummy half runs 55

Coopers 20 games this season
Offloads 9
Kicks 3
Try Assists 3
Line Breaks 12
Hit ups 156
Meters gained 1711
Dummy half runs 41

But like Barret we cant count these obvious facts, we should use our unbiased opinions

[kazza broncos chick]

Nah well that just proves my point, Tate is in better form than Cooper and thats the reason he was picked

[Super Cronk]

Hate to bring Stats into the forum again, but there interesting.

Tates 18 games this year
Offloads 16
Kicks 10
Try Assists 7
Line Breaks 12
Hit ups 229
Meters gained 2313
Dummy half runs 55

Coopers 20 games this season
Offloads 9
Kicks 3
Try Assists 3
Line Breaks 12
Hit ups 156
Meters gained 1711
Dummy half runs 41

But like Barret we cant count these obvious facts, we should use our unbiased opinions

hehehe....normally i dont agree with using stats coz stats dont give you a real indication of the players form and at what time he has hit that form. But in this case all of the important stats far out way cooper's stats....and ive always said that tate has had a good year...i just think coopers back end of the year was better. both players will do the job...

[Teegy]

Stats can Proven what we want them to prove. so IMO stats don't prove anything

[Inferno]

exactly right Teegy. Stats don't show form at all.

Look at David Simmons from the sharks. Highest try scorer of the year but Most of you wouldn't him in the team.

If Tate was such a good centre why was he playing on the wing for the Broncos?

Fact is if Tate wasn't a Bronco he probably wouldn't have made the train on Squad let alone 17.

[Teegy]

How many of those 18 games were played on the wing. how about Missed Tackles, Errors, Penalties conceded and Trys.

[Inferno]

Btw if you want to compare Stats compare these.

Tates 18 games this year
Offloads 16
Kicks 10
Try Assists 7
Line Breaks 12
Hit ups 229
Meters gained 2313
Dummy half runs 55
Errors 29
Mistackles 37

King 23 games this year
Offloads 12
Kicks 8
Try Assists 6
Line Breaks 17
Hit ups 288
Meters gained 2782
Dummy half runs 78
Errors 18
Mistackles 41

Bell 26 games this year
Offloads 17
Kicks 10
Try Assists 3
Line Breaks 25
Hit ups 295
Meters gained 2863
Dummy half runs 79
Errors 14
Mistackles 26

Yet do you think King or Bell was even considered for centre?

[Steelers]

Btw if you want to compare Stats compare these.

Tates 18 games this year
Offloads 16
Kicks 10
Try Assists 7
Line Breaks 12
Hit ups 229
Meters gained 2313
Dummy half runs 55
Errors 29
Mistackles 37

King 23 games this year
Offloads 12
Kicks 8
Try Assists 6
Line Breaks 17
Hit ups 288
Meters gained 2782
Dummy half runs 78
Errors 18
Mistackles 41

Bell 26 games this year
Offloads 17
Kicks 10
Try Assists 3
Line Breaks 25
Hit ups 295
Meters gained 2863
Dummy half runs 79
Errors 14
Mistackles 26

Yet do you think King or Bell was even considered for centre?

Funny how you have yet to show Cooper's stats in defence. Cooper is one of the best defending centres in the game, and im just about sure stats would just further prove my point. But stats are not a base for form.

[Inferno]

I wasn't showing Coopers Stats at all. I think he should be in the team over Tate.

All Im saying is the stat arguement isin't good enough for Tate to be in the team because there are players with better stats than him.

But just for the hell of it

Cooper
Tackles 315
Mistackles 33
Tries 13

Tate
Tackles 268
Mistackles 37
Tries 7

[Coaster]

Nobody is debating for Bell, or King, they are debating for Cooper.

My point is that people who are surrounded by a biased Sydney StGeorge media, have been corrupted that Barrett and Cooper are the best thing since sliced bread.

Im simply showing that Tate has had a good year, and he doesnt deserve the flack he has been coping for regaining his test jumper.

I wouldnt be upset if Cooper made the side over him, but he didnt.

So Congradulations Brent Tate.

[Inferno]

Nobody is debating for Bell, or King, they are debating for Cooper.

Im not argueing that either. All Im saying is that stats can't have been used to justify his selection because there are centres with better stats than him. He has done the job in the past and will probably have a solid game but I think its hard to argue that he wasn't given any favouritism.

That said good luck to him.