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    Quote Originally Posted by gotitans101_ View Post
    Wow...Toovs just said on NRL 360 he'd throw his hat in the ring for us.
    I heard that as well and he also mentioned that there was a roster issue and cultural problem, so it appeared to me he had given the job a bit of thought. He only got asked one question about it but he seemed very keen.

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    Speaking of NRL 360, there’s this article from Paul Kent...
    Sacking of Garth Brennan leaves the Titans with limited options
    Garth Brennan’s coaching reputation may not survive his sacking — the same could be said for the club that sacked him. Everything hinges of the Titans’ next move, writes PAUL KENT.
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    FOXSPORTS4:10
    Holbrook approached by Titans
    NRL: Peter Badel says Justin Holbrook has been approached for the Titans job.
    Wanted: coach for struggling NRL team. Apply within
    Titans next coach is club’s ‘last stand’
    Garth Brennan’s disintegration as Gold Coast coach was so dramatic it was almost ceremonial.

    It could not have been any more devastating for Brennan’s youthful reputation if he had orchestrated it himself. He would be hard pressed getting a job coaching the Ourimbah under-9s at the moment.

    What is it with coaching, that it does strange things to good people?

    The knock on Brennan has been around the league all season. The greatest compliment was no compliment at all; that he was a terrific Q-Cup coach.

    How did it come to this for Garth Brennan? Image: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
    How did it come to this for Garth Brennan? Image: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
    Brennan spent 15 years building his reputation as a future NRL coach and his strange behaviours saw it all unravel in less than two seasons. He appears destined to become one of those one job coaches, employed to do a job and unable to catapult into a second contract.

    The Titans might be asking themselves where it went wrong? The scary question, the one they don’t want to answer, is it might have been wrong all along.

    When the Titans headed to Tamworth earlier this season Brennan still presented as being among the bright new era of NRL coaches, always prepared for a talk and with a usable quote.

    At Tamworth Brennan recalled driving away from playing at Scully Park, considered something holy to the locals, when he was 15 years old thinking the surface was such “you could sleep on it”.

    He could have ran for mayor on that quote alone.

    The writing has been on the wall for some time. Image: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
    The writing has been on the wall for some time. Image: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
    But sleeping was the last thing on his mind in Tamworth, apparently.

    The night before the Titans’ game Brennan turned up at a team meeting looking very much like he couldn’t find it in himself to walk past the Tamworth Services Club, to say nothing of the Tamworth Hotel or the Albert.

    His authority over the team took a massive hit, something he doubled down on the next evening.

    After the game, won 30-14 by Wests, Brennan was so dirty at the loss he banned his players from going out. It happens from time to time.

    The following morning he learned several players had disobeyed orders and had a night among the bright lights of Tamworth.

    He wanted a punishment but was overruled by Mal Meninga, the club’s head of performance and culture. Meninga saw it as a double standard and refused him.

    Such problems with his players is why Brennan was ultimately sacked.

    Peachey‘s failure to settle on the Gold Coast has been symptomatic. Image: Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images
    Peachey‘s failure to settle on the Gold Coast has been symptomatic. Image: Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images
    He was not on speaking terms with Tyrone Peachey, who he had recruited from Penrith. The final gasp in their relationship was when Peachey was nursing a pectoral injury and was advised to stay on light duties.

    Brennan got him training and Peachey aggravated the injury.

    He had similar communication problems with halfback Ash Taylor.

    As the Titans continued trending downward and before Taylor sought leave to deal with personal issues the halfback passed on a penalty kick with the score at 6-4, a sure sign of his diminished confidence.

    Asked why later, Brennan hardly defended his star player.

    “Ask Ash,” he said.

    It was another concern for Titans’ management.

    Ash Taylor was supposed to represent the club’s future. Image: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
    Ash Taylor was supposed to represent the club’s future. Image: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
    Part of Brennan’s sell to the Titans was his “special relationship” with Taylor. Taylor and five-eighth Tyrone Roberts are close.

    Part of the reason behind Neil Henry’s downfall at the Titans before Brennan was that Taylor wanted Roberts as his halves partner but Henry was not taken with it. Ultimately the Titans saw it Taylor’s way and it became part of the reason for Henry’s sacking.

    Brennan is married to Roberts’ sister. This relationship helped form a bond with Taylor he hope would unleash the rare talents of Taylor.

    Mal Meninga‘s role in the decision appears unclear. Image: Glenn Hampson
    Mal Meninga‘s role in the decision appears unclear. Image: Glenn Hampson
    The Titans were wondering how a coach, just two seasons in, could so spectacularly fall out of favour with his players.

    It was a big reason behind the performance and culture review Meninga was ordered to undertake, which got delivered on Monday.

    But all it did again was highlight the club’s dysfunction.

    Brennan has claimed Meninga did not speak to him. Meninga claimed the review did not recommend Brennan be sacked.

    Yet Brennan, apparently, knew he was gone.

    Coaching staff saw him clearing his desk last Thursday, the day before they headed to Penrith and lost 24-2.

    “It hardly inspires confidence,” said one club source.


    FOXSPORTS0:46
    Titans last chance in NRL
    NRL: Gold Coast Titans chief executive Dennis Watt admits the club is clinging on to it's final lifeline.
    Already the Titans have received “half a dozen” expression of interest from out of work coaches or their managers. Given an interview process was undertaken in 2017, spitting out Brennan as the best qualified, how can the Titans be confident the process was right?

    The smartest play out of it all might have come from Queensland coach Kevin Walters, who quickly removed himself from the coaching carousel even though he is believed to be privately still interested.

    It keeps Walters out of the endless speculation and where only a smart play from the Titans, to approach Walters anyway, would make the appointment.

    It could be the first smart move made on the Gold Coast in some time.

    Originally published as Kent: How did Titans get it all so wrong?

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    ^^^^^ wow!!!!

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    "Brennan is married to Roberts' sister." Wait, what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotitans101_ View Post
    "Brennan is married to Roberts' sister." Wait, what?
    So Brennan is married to Roberts sister
    Stockwell is married to his niece

    And in the review only 2 players stuck up for Brennan and one of them was Arrow (I’d suggest because that’s the sort of good young man that he is)

    Thanks Garth
    Good on ya Garth
    Well done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin the Titan View Post
    It angers me to hear NRL supporters yet again screaming for the removal of the Titans. The "perennial wooden spooners." Really? How many spoons? It saddens me to hear this hysteria given breath on a forum such as this. Call me naive, but I don't think we need to worry too much about folding in the immediate future. We are not insolvent and the NRL will not remove us for performance based issues.Whilst we may not be the jewel in the NRL crown that we would like to be, in our 12 short years we have not done badly enough to warrant eviction. Especially at a time when expansion talks are on the table. We have played finals in multiple seasons (including a prelim), and whilst we may have collected one wooden spoon along the way, we need to consider that Parramatta collected 3 and Newcastle 3 (in a row mind you) in the same period. No-one is discussing the removal of these clubs. Rest assured that the NRL will not abandon Australia's 6th biggest city and 2nd biggest nursery to the AFL unless they have absolutely no other choice. A change in coach at the Titans may be dire straights to us, but not to the NRL. Not yet anyway. Let's not lose sight of the bigger picture.
    Fittler saying move us to Brisbane and Watt saying this is the last stand has resulted in the pile on about our right to exist going into overdrive again tonight in the NSW/Drongoes hate media

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    Fittler saying move us to Brisbane and Watt saying this is the last stand has resulted in the pile on about our right to exist going into overdrive again tonight in the NSW/Drongoes hate media[/QUOTE]

    Fittlers comments are typical of the naive Sydney-centric mentally that still exists in Sydney. To be largely ignored. Watts' comments on the other hand, are slightly disturbing, as I sleep comfortably under the umbrella of our owners financial security. Do these comments mean we should be questioning that?? Are Darryl and Rebecca losing their appetite? I suggest Watts needs to choose his words more carefully. Or, if I am to put on my tin foil hat and go down the road of conspiracy. Is he a termite despatched from the donkeys??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ja4220 View Post
    Speaking of NRL 360, there’s this article from Paul Kent...
    Sacking of Garth Brennan leaves the Titans with limited options
    Garth Brennan’s coaching reputation may not survive his sacking — the same could be said for the club that sacked him. Everything hinges of the Titans’ next move, writes PAUL KENT.
    Paul Kent, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only
    |
    38 minutes ago
    Close

    FOXSPORTS4:10
    Holbrook approached by Titans
    NRL: Peter Badel says Justin Holbrook has been approached for the Titans job.
    Wanted: coach for struggling NRL team. Apply within
    Titans next coach is club’s ‘last stand’
    Garth Brennan’s disintegration as Gold Coast coach was so dramatic it was almost ceremonial.

    It could not have been any more devastating for Brennan’s youthful reputation if he had orchestrated it himself. He would be hard pressed getting a job coaching the Ourimbah under-9s at the moment.

    What is it with coaching, that it does strange things to good people?

    The knock on Brennan has been around the league all season. The greatest compliment was no compliment at all; that he was a terrific Q-Cup coach.

    How did it come to this for Garth Brennan? Image: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
    How did it come to this for Garth Brennan? Image: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
    Brennan spent 15 years building his reputation as a future NRL coach and his strange behaviours saw it all unravel in less than two seasons. He appears destined to become one of those one job coaches, employed to do a job and unable to catapult into a second contract.

    The Titans might be asking themselves where it went wrong? The scary question, the one they don’t want to answer, is it might have been wrong all along.

    When the Titans headed to Tamworth earlier this season Brennan still presented as being among the bright new era of NRL coaches, always prepared for a talk and with a usable quote.

    At Tamworth Brennan recalled driving away from playing at Scully Park, considered something holy to the locals, when he was 15 years old thinking the surface was such “you could sleep on it”.

    He could have ran for mayor on that quote alone.

    The writing has been on the wall for some time. Image: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
    The writing has been on the wall for some time. Image: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
    But sleeping was the last thing on his mind in Tamworth, apparently.

    The night before the Titans’ game Brennan turned up at a team meeting looking very much like he couldn’t find it in himself to walk past the Tamworth Services Club, to say nothing of the Tamworth Hotel or the Albert.

    His authority over the team took a massive hit, something he doubled down on the next evening.

    After the game, won 30-14 by Wests, Brennan was so dirty at the loss he banned his players from going out. It happens from time to time.

    The following morning he learned several players had disobeyed orders and had a night among the bright lights of Tamworth.

    He wanted a punishment but was overruled by Mal Meninga, the club’s head of performance and culture. Meninga saw it as a double standard and refused him.

    Such problems with his players is why Brennan was ultimately sacked.

    Peachey‘s failure to settle on the Gold Coast has been symptomatic. Image: Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images
    Peachey‘s failure to settle on the Gold Coast has been symptomatic. Image: Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images
    He was not on speaking terms with Tyrone Peachey, who he had recruited from Penrith. The final gasp in their relationship was when Peachey was nursing a pectoral injury and was advised to stay on light duties.

    Brennan got him training and Peachey aggravated the injury.

    He had similar communication problems with halfback Ash Taylor.

    As the Titans continued trending downward and before Taylor sought leave to deal with personal issues the halfback passed on a penalty kick with the score at 6-4, a sure sign of his diminished confidence.

    Asked why later, Brennan hardly defended his star player.

    “Ask Ash,” he said.

    It was another concern for Titans’ management.

    Ash Taylor was supposed to represent the club’s future. Image: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
    Ash Taylor was supposed to represent the club’s future. Image: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
    Part of Brennan’s sell to the Titans was his “special relationship” with Taylor. Taylor and five-eighth Tyrone Roberts are close.

    Part of the reason behind Neil Henry’s downfall at the Titans before Brennan was that Taylor wanted Roberts as his halves partner but Henry was not taken with it. Ultimately the Titans saw it Taylor’s way and it became part of the reason for Henry’s sacking.

    Brennan is married to Roberts’ sister. This relationship helped form a bond with Taylor he hope would unleash the rare talents of Taylor.

    Mal Meninga‘s role in the decision appears unclear. Image: Glenn Hampson
    Mal Meninga‘s role in the decision appears unclear. Image: Glenn Hampson
    The Titans were wondering how a coach, just two seasons in, could so spectacularly fall out of favour with his players.

    It was a big reason behind the performance and culture review Meninga was ordered to undertake, which got delivered on Monday.

    But all it did again was highlight the club’s dysfunction.

    Brennan has claimed Meninga did not speak to him. Meninga claimed the review did not recommend Brennan be sacked.

    Yet Brennan, apparently, knew he was gone.

    Coaching staff saw him clearing his desk last Thursday, the day before they headed to Penrith and lost 24-2.

    “It hardly inspires confidence,” said one club source.


    FOXSPORTS0:46
    Titans last chance in NRL
    NRL: Gold Coast Titans chief executive Dennis Watt admits the club is clinging on to it's final lifeline.
    Already the Titans have received “half a dozen” expression of interest from out of work coaches or their managers. Given an interview process was undertaken in 2017, spitting out Brennan as the best qualified, how can the Titans be confident the process was right?

    The smartest play out of it all might have come from Queensland coach Kevin Walters, who quickly removed himself from the coaching carousel even though he is believed to be privately still interested.

    It keeps Walters out of the endless speculation and where only a smart play from the Titans, to approach Walters anyway, would make the appointment.

    It could be the first smart move made on the Gold Coast in some time.

    Originally published as Kent: How did Titans get it all so wrong?
    What I’d give for Burt Brennan’s take on that article

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    I don't get why the club is reaching out to Walters who's currently employed by Qld but won't reach out to Bellamy who's actually said he'd be interested in coaching us. I hope we don't get Walters, of he thinks he's too good for an interview then stuff him, would rather someone who genuinely wants the job

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    My choice is Holbrook, if not him then Griffin or Toovey could be good

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCTTSD View Post
    I don't get why the club is reaching out to Walters who's currently employed by Qld but won't reach out to Bellamy who's actually said he'd be interested in coaching us. I hope we don't get Walters, of he thinks he's too good for an interview then stuff him, would rather someone who genuinely wants the job
    I agree but if we were to reach out to Bellamy it would need to be by stealth.

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    Id love to know who the players who went out were

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    Probably a fair few of them and to be honest I don't blame them.

    Who would honestly listen to their coach who turns up hungover to your gameday, and tells you not to go out. What a hypocrite.

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    Also on 360 last night they were saying Brennan was known for just throwing the cones and training equipment over the fence for the assistants to pick up. He definitely didn't sound like the king of professionalism behind the scenes

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    Geez, last couple of articles posted above and the previous page appear to confirm my greatest fears.

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    That bender that he went on in Tamworth the night before the Wests game was when he blew it

    Frankly I’m pretty pissed off that it was covered up

    We the fans that love our club should have been informed in some way

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    had anyone heard of the hungover thing before this article? he presents as so clean cut, that i would understand if he didnt garner enough respect or didnt have the gravitas or balls to deliver hard truths.... but to get **** faced and rock up hungover is mental. He has been on borrowed time ever since.

    reason we can approach kevvie and not bellamy ( technically ) is because origin coaches and assistant coaches usually have a clause that they can leave if an NRL gig comes along as they are hard to get. But head coaches obviously dont have that.

    Not to say we shouldn't make discrete inquiries of course to him. but remember with Bellamy - he had cooper, inglis, smith and Slater and it still took 4 years to win a comp and that was later taken away. and we dont have any thing like those 4 players... so even with the great man himself there would be a process and a time period of building

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    Also about Watt's comment.

    It sounds pretty bad as a sentence, but i think he means in general we are on our own now, and no bailout would be forthcoming, and so everything from here on out is on our own steam so we would want to get the choices right ( didnt we before ? )

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    more things on my mind actually.

    the move us to brisbane makes me sick, but i dont think its on the cards yet, its just people kicking us when we are down. If we can get 11,000 to a game after 10 years and 110 year old clubs get 15,000 then we aren't as bad as they want to make out. the news will pass in a few days and everyone will forget about us again.

    i really cant believe how he has fallen out with Peachey and Ash - i thought man management was the big string to his bow, his BEST asset. How can he he fall out with Ash - a guy who specifically asked for Garth to be appointed and another guy who Garth signed personally to come up here? how to do you ruin those bonds?
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    Bellamy is up here this weekend. If we don't attempt to talk to him (the same way we let Bennett slip by I might add) then the club is run by buffoons. He's contracted till 2022 so any coach coming on only gets 2 years and we work our asses off for Bellamy from 2023 onward.
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