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    Whether you like Paul Kent or not he rarely puts out an article that he can't back up. There is some interesting comments about how long Parra have been negotiating with Hayne's management in here.

    Paul Kent: Ballad of Jarryd Hayne becoming a cautionary tale
    PAUL KENT, The Daily Telegraph
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    EXCLUSIVE: Eels in talks with Jarryd Hayne for Eels return
    MARKET MOVE: Sharks, Panthers set for Maloney, Moylan swap
    JARRYD Hayne returned to Australia with a gold star reputation.

    It was little more than a year ago and Hayne was a conqueror.

    At his best he beat the NRL like no player ever did. He won two Dally M Player of the Year gongs, as unstoppable as male pattern baldness, and he bankrolled all that into a trial with the San Francisco 49ers.

    A lifelong ambition, he told us, and off he went. He was Kingsford Smith, Burke and Wills, a young Errol Flynn. Everybody wanted to be No. 38.

    It was easy to admire and he took Australia on the ride with him.

    The Gold Coast Titans recognised that and paid Hayne overs to play for their team. New sponsors were lined up. He paid his salary in their first three home gates. He not only dominated games, we saw, he generated cash.

    Yet in little more than 12 months all that is left of that gold star reputation is dust.

    Hayne, it seems, picked up more than a helmet in the NFL. In the land where personality is king, the curse of ego got him.


    Jarryd Hayne left the NRL to try his hand at NFL with the San Francisco 49ers.
    When Hayne got back to Australia he wanted to train the way he wanted to train. He failed to buy into the team-first culture coach Neil Henry was building. Both would have been excusable if not entirely forgivable if Hayne was still lighting up the field. But he wasn’t.

    Outside that Hayne also struggled to fulfil his other obligation, the one of Titans’ chief salesman.

    He partied with bikies, an Instagram star. He turned up at a school as part of his sponsorship with an internet security company and when they displayed his smartphone to show the kids the necessity for online safety, online porn jumped up. They had to claim they were hacked.

    The embarrassment of it all.

    Something had to give, and so The Ballad of Jarryd Hayne took another turn Thursday morning when Gold Coast chief executive Graham Annesley began preparing his breakfast.

    Anybody that knows Annesley can easily picture him in his striped pyjamas, long sleeved and slightly starched, carefully preparing breakfast before wrapping his cheese sandwich for lunch later in the day.

    Annesley’s phone lit up and the name across it said “Rothfield” and that was the end of that morning. By lunchtime his phone was exhausted, the battery nearly dead, and he was not a step closer to the office.

    It must have been excruciating.

    The Titans were blindsided by Rothfield’s revelation that Hayne wanted to quit.

    Jarryd Hayne has failed to hit his NRL heights with the Titans.

    The club had basically given Hayne the keys to the building when it backed him in the battle with the sacked coach Henry in August. This latest twist is exactly why the Titans pulled the wrong rein.

    Still, once the decision was made the new coach, Garth Brennan, began talking up how he wanted to use Hayne so consistently that, even as news was breaking that Hayne wanted out, he was still out on message.

    The club’s trust in Hayne has backfired.

    Hayne has disregarded what the Titans have done for him. They sacked a good coach in favour of him after a meeting revealed neither could work with the other. Forget the values that were at stake.

    Brennan replaced Henry and one of his first decisions was to take a pay cut so the club could afford to lure Hayden Knowles away from Sydney Roosters. Knowles is Hayne’s former trainer at Parramatta who Hayne took to San Francisco and who supposedly had the key to get the best out of him physically, which is where it began to break down with Henry.

    There goes that, too.


    The Titans backed Jarryd Hayne in the battle with Neil Henry.
    Annesley continues to play it as straight as the crease down the front of his denim jeans. He issued a short statement saying the club has had no approach from Hayne and has not spoken since the season ended and they expected him to turn up in the new year when he was due to return.

    Hayne went the familiar route, social media to deny the claims. He might have done that to deny a problem with Henry, too.

    However Parramatta insiders have confirmed Hayne’s representatives have been negotiating for a month. The Eels have room in their salary cap and could accommodate Hayne in their cap with only slight adjustment.

    The sell is Hayne wants to return to Sydney to be closer to his daughter.

    It is as messy as it can get.

    There is a thought around town that Hayne should return to Sydney and Parramatta where, it goes, he plays his best football.

    Dear oh dear.

    The more accurate assessment is that Hayne more often plays his best when he rolls into the final season of his contract. Hayne has sent more than one coach to counselling in his time at the Eels. None lasted more than two seasons with him.

    Where this went wrong is anybody’s guess.

    What we do know is The Ballad of Jarryd Hayne should be a celebration, a happy tune with chimes. Increasingly it is a cautionary tale.

    With each step Hayne is breaking his contract with the game. Not that contract registered at NRL headquarters but the one with the fans.

    That’s what Australian coach Mal Meninga was speaking to when he said Thursday Hayne “hasn’t played well enough” to leave the Titans yet. Meninga was simply speaking to the point Hayne has barely begun giving the Titans a return on their investment and he still owes them.

    But in the modern world everybody owes the player.

    The Gold Coast pay Hayne $1 million a year and yet go better without him.

    And somehow Hayne back in Parramatta colours is supposed to fix this?

    Annesley, now out of his pyjamas and feeling far more comfortable, must be praying the Eels make an offer.

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    Best article yet. Sums up the spoken majority of this forum however I would be freaking out if I was an Eels fan.

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    The Gold Coast pay Hayne $1 million a year and yet go better without him.

    And somehow Hayne back in Parramatta colours is supposed to fix this?

    Annesley, now out of his pyjamas and feeling far more comfortable, must be praying the Eels make an offer.
    A nice gentle carve up there of them both. lol

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    If I was the Titans and Hayne came asking for a release to go to the Eels I would ONLY say yes if we got Gutho in return................

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    I’d take Gutherson in an instant ... and finally Kent gets a full uppercut on the chin of Hayne after their last stoush.
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    Just play hardball. If he is serious about his daughter then he will walk away and we will have $1.2million back in the Cap. Don’t even worry about a player swap. This doesn’t need any complications.
    Just get the money and then use it to get ambitious talent that wants to be here.

    If Hayne walks out on his contract and we don’t have to subsidise him playing elsewhere then I’d harbour no ill feelings toward him and think of him as a genuine dad that wants to be with his daughter. But if it’s all about getting us to pay part of his salary then he is full of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBouveng View Post
    I do find it odd that that Hayne is looking at a pay cut to be nearer his daughter and is getting smashed for it, Cooper Cronk left Storm for a pay RISE and is the worlds biggest gentleman, adored by the footy world and its media for moving for love.

    I Know Jarryd has made his own bed to an extent, but there is a nasty double standard there.
    Geez mate I reckon you've picked a poor example there and I don't see the double standard at all.

    Cooper Cronk has been upfront about every thing he has done. He was clear about leaving Melbourne and told everyone that he was leaving. No secrets at all. Hayne on the other hand, besides being under contract it's just a continuation of his selfish career long behaviour.

    If I had to pick between the two which one I'd trust and prefer to have a drink with, there is no contest.

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    Gee, I hope fly boy goes. He’s an oxygen thief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBouveng View Post
    I do find it odd that that Hayne is looking at a pay cut to be nearer his daughter and is getting smashed for it, Cooper Cronk left Storm for a pay RISE and is the worlds biggest gentleman, adored by the footy world and its media for moving for love.

    I Know Jarryd has made his own bed to an extent, but there is a nasty double standard there.
    I can’t see a double standard at all. Cronk knew he was leaving, he said he was leaving - he left. He has signed a new contract with a new club that meets his needs.

    Jarryd on the other hand has signed a contract and is now trying to wiggle out of it. Not only that, he is also not being honest about trying to wiggle out of it by denying the story. While I would normally say that this is a media beat up I am inclined to believe that there is no smoke without fire in Jarryd’s case.

    I believe that the best outcome, if he wants to go elsewhere, is for us to let him go and not pay him a cent as he is the one that has not fulfilled his contractual obligations. If he wants the money he should earn it.

    I also don’t think he is getting smashed for wanting to be near his daughter he is getting smashed because he is not being honest with fans. (Unless the stories are all untrue!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mexican titan View Post
    Geez mate I reckon you've picked a poor example there and I don't see the double standard at all.

    Cooper Cronk has been upfront about every thing he has done. He was clear about leaving Melbourne and told everyone that he was leaving. No secrets at all. Hayne on the other hand, besides being under contract it's just a continuation of his selfish career long behaviour.

    If I had to pick between the two which one I'd trust and prefer to have a drink with, there is no contest.
    Quote Originally Posted by K4SE View Post
    I can’t see a double standard at all. Cronk knew he was leaving, he said he was leaving - he left. He has signed a new contract with a new club that meets his needs.

    Jarryd on the other hand has signed a contract and is now trying to wiggle out of it. Not only that, he is also not being honest about trying to wiggle out of it by denying the story. While I would normally say that this is a media beat up I am inclined to believe that there is no smoke without fire in Jarryd’s case.

    I believe that the best outcome, if he wants to go elsewhere, is for us to let him go and not pay him a cent as he is the one that has not fulfilled his contractual obligations. If he wants the money he should earn it.

    I also don’t think he is getting smashed for wanting to be near his daughter he is getting smashed because he is not being honest with fans. (Unless the stories are all untrue!)
    I think the two PEOPLE are worlds apart as far as values go perhaps, but the situations are similar except for Cronk giving Storm more time to find a replacement - but that isn't what Hayne is being criticized for.

    As i said - Hayne has brought a lot of the negativity on himself so i don't feel sorry for him and you reap what you sow, but someone leaving to be close to their child is at least in the same ball park as someone leaving for their partner.

    both of them were under contract for 2018, so Cooper has reneged on a deal as well, don't forget that.

    and both would be discussing it with people close to them before making any decisions - Cooper was talking to friends and family before making it official that he was leaving the storm and the rumour broke about him leaving his contract 'for love' a month or so before he actually announced it, and he received adoration for being so selfless before and after the announcement.

    Hayne from reports is looking to move closer to his small child, his management have let the titans know apparently they are looking at opportunities closer to his child, and it looks like there is some wheeling and dealing being done. I don't see any harm or lack of respect there if he is using the correct channels and keeping club informed.

    the big differences are Hayne ego / selfish history means he is going to cop a hammering as there are trust issues, and also the late timing is unfortunate.

    But 2 highly paid players with contracts for next year seek to leave a club to be closer to family, one an infant, and one gets smashed and one is loved even more.

    Having said all of that, i would take Cooper 10 times over, and i would love to see the back of Hayne Pronto - i hope these reports are correct so i'm not a Hayne lover defending him, just trying to add some balance.

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    Cronk said he was moving to be closer to his fiance and the deal and negotiations came after that, but regardless of the contract he was moving and playing or moving and retiring.

    Hayne has put negotiations ahead of the need to be around his kid otherwise he would have left on compassionate grounds regardless of a future contract $ value.


    Plus he's a NSWelshman.

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    ^^^ JB do you not want any of the kids down in the Tweed or the hundreds of thousands that live in the Northern Rivers/Tweed to go for the Titans or want to play for us????

    There would be stacks of people from the Tweed and Northern Rivers that read the Forum.

    I find comments like that to be unhelpful in building our club.

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    Cronk discussed his decision making process with the Storm and that’s streets apart from Hayne having a debate with his ego naked in front of the mirror.
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