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    Quote Originally Posted by Coaster View Post
    Man i hate hearing this talk about young Srama.

    I totally understand what you are saying based on current form, but is there not one coach in this total shamble of a club that can take this kid and develop a kicking game, and get him to "Step Up" to the next level required?

    I am not talking about first grade, because he is good enough for that, i am speaking about becoming a superstar?
    i hear what u are saying but I rate Irwin over both hookers. He can do everything and a lot of things better than the 2 in front of him IMO and is rated among his peers.
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    Hey it's Titans Riley, the guy who comments on Zerotackle. Always enjoyed reading your comments on Zerotackle as you have a good understanding of footy. Welcome to the forums mate
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    Yeah I've seen Riley posting around Zerotackle too. Welcome bro.

    It's pleasing to see the general consensus on here is that Meady deserves the #1 jersey. Zillman must be concerned that Meady played better in 3 games at the back than he did all season. I think the most reasonable option is for him and Meady to just do a direct positional swap so Zill ends up on the wing..he'd do fine there. If we sign another fullback in the off-season then things will get very interdasting.

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    Thanks for your feedback guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hail Sezer View Post
    It's pleasing to see the general consensus on here is that Meady deserves the #1 jersey. I think the most reasonable option is for him and Meady to just do a direct positional swap so Zill ends up on the wing..he'd do fine there.
    I'd be very happy with this, and if it doesn't work the whole team doesn't need to be shuffled to undo/change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hail Sezer View Post
    It's pleasing to see the general consensus on here is that Meady deserves the #1 jersey. Zillman must be concerned that Meady played better in 3 games at the back than he did all season. I think the most reasonable option is for him and Meady to just do a direct positional swap so Zill ends up on the wing..he'd do fine there. If we sign another fullback in the off-season then things will get very interdasting.
    Personally, I don't think a complete swap will work all that well for us. Fair enough, Meady does have the potential to develop in a good Fullback, but I don't think he's there yet. Some good mentoring/training would see that sorted. But it's blatantly obvious we don't have the Coaches/Trainers/Resources to take him to the next level.

    As for Zilly for Wing. That would be a pretty good position for him as he'd have less to worry about than what he does at Fullback, but it comes back to the same old issue with him. He doesn't have that explosive speed to take him the full length of the paddock like a good Winger should. He's only good for about 40-50 metres 'n he starts to pull up.

    So unfortunately, I don't think a swap will resolve all our issues in those two positions.

    EDIT: If you look back over the years, we have bought players to cover positions. But since our inception, most of those players have retired and now our Coaching Department has been exposed to what a shambles it really is. It was all fine when we had the likes of Prince, Rogers, Campbell, now they're gone our inability to bring younger players up through the ranks is pretty obvious. I guess it was bound to happen eventually, but now it's out there. Nothing has come to the fore to suggest that we're going to see any major changes in the near future. To me, that's the sad part about our ordeal..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toads View Post
    Personally, I don't think a complete swap will work all that well for us. Fair enough, Meady does have the potential to develop in a good Fullback, but I don't think he's there yet. Some good mentoring/training would see that sorted. But it's blatantly obvious we don't have the Coaches/Trainers/Resources to take him to the next level.

    As for Zilly for Wing. That would be a pretty good position for him as he'd have less to worry about than what he does at Fullback, but it comes back to the same old issue with him. He doesn't have that explosive speed to take him the full length of the paddock like a good Winger should. He's only good for about 40-50 metres 'n he starts to pull up.

    So unfortunately, I don't think a swap will resolve all our isses in those two positions.
    Some good points mate. I guess I still think that, even at this point in time, Mead is a better option than Zillman at the back. Agree on the lack of resources/training to take players to the next level, but then again that is consistent across the entire team. The players I feel most sorry for are our halves. If Zillman's error count and apparent organisational difficulties (thanks Titanic) were not evident then I'd be far more willing to have him back there. But the fact he has been there for so long and still hasn't developed a play-making game, still makes stupid errors etc etc..I feel he is, at best, just a slower and less busy version of Mead. Edit: add error riddled to that

    Regarding the speed thing, I think he'd hang with a lot of wingers in the comp. And how often is it really that any wingers, let alone ours within our "attacking" structure, get in the open more than 50m out?

    Once again this comes back to coaching...surprise surprise.

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    Mead shouldn't go to fb unless we had someone to teach him? Nah, he would learn that position well by himself like countless others throughout history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teke View Post
    Mead shouldn't go to fb unless we had someone to teach him? Nah, he would learn that position well by himself like countless others throughout history.

    My team lineup is same as this yr with Henry as coach
    Nope, I didn't say he shouldn't go there. Just stating a complete swap with Zillman wouldn't resolve our issues alone.

    EDIT: He probably does need some tips along the way as well, if he's to go to Fullback. One mistake I've seen him make on a couple of occasions, is a attacking player has turned him inside out when they run at him. Not something I recall happening all that often to him as Winger. He might well learn a fair bit along the the way as he plays the position. But as with everyone, some pointers from those that know the position well, wouldn't go astray. To me, Meady doesn't look completely comfortable as a Fullback just yet..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hail Sezer View Post
    I feel he is, at best, just a slower and less busy version of Mead. Edit: add error riddled to that
    This pretty much sums up the whole Zilly vs Mead argument for me. Nicely said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toads View Post
    Nope, I didn't say he shouldn't go there. Just stating a complete swap with Zillman wouldn't resolve our issues alone.

    EDIT: He probably does need some tips along the way as well, if he's to go to Fullback. One mistake I've seen him make on a couple of occasions, is a attacking player has turned him inside out when they run at him. Not something I recall happening all that often to him as Winger. He might well learn a fair bit along the the way as he plays the position. But as with everyone, some pointers from those that know the position well, wouldn't go astray. To me, Meady doesn't look completely comfortable as a Fullback just yet..
    He doesn't look like a fb cause he isn't one and has never had the coaches backing in that position. I need him to stay on the wing get into origin, that is my wish for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by teke View Post
    He doesn't look like a fb cause he isn't one and has never had the coaches backing in that position. I need him to stay on the wing get into origin, that is my wish for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanic View Post
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