Coaching

[Smakked]

agree,poor leadership starts at the top

At the top it is looking pretty good but coaching , now thats another story.....

[Chaos]

We have fantastic leadership at the top IMO.
If you are suggesting David May is doing a poor job, your wrong.

This club was on the brink of collapse and has been streamlined and remodeled brilliantly IMO.
The integration back into the junior clubs has not gone unnoticed with past players like Toopie and Cambell back at the grassroots. The first grade players ambassador roles at all local clubs is starting to take effect. Junior participation levels are through the roof.

After the off field dramas and the fact we lost the club captain, we are touted as a top 8 team.

In my opinion I don't think the coaching is the best it could be. But I have nothing but confidence in David May and the board.

Sounds positive...but he's been in the job long enough to now make the tough decision.

We have to start winning and threaten the premiership before we really grow our supporter base...our current coach doesn't have what it takes to get us there....simple as that.

Does David May know his rugby League...can he see Carty wont get us there...does he have an idea which coaches have the potential to win a NRL premiership?

[Coaster]

Sounds positive...but he's been in the job long enough to now make the tough decision.

We have to start winning and threaten the premiership before we really grow our supporter base...our current coach doesn't have what it takes to get us there....simple as that.

Does David May know his rugby League...can he see Carty wont get us there...does he have an idea which coaches have the potential to win a NRL premiership?

The club signed Carty to a 5 year deal before May took office.

Do you expect to just pay out Cartys contract and then sign a top line coach?

Who is paying for that?

Changes take time, in the last 12 months Searle took a step back, we introduced a board, let Prince move on, refreshed the club by eliminating 1/2 of the jobs and letting the CoE go, also moving on the Titanium bar.

It would not have gone un noticed im sure

[Chaos]

Do you expect to just pay out Cartys contract and then sign a top line coach?

Get a new coach or keep losing fans.

[Coaster]

Get a new coach or keep losing fans.

I am all for a new coach, but i do not think it would be that simple.
The club has only in the last few weeks got back in the black, i would safely say tearing up a 5 year contract would be an extremely expensive exercise.

I do not want to see our club in financial trouble in the short term to appease a few band wagoners, as i know that any long term Titan (although they might want a change and demand a change) would not be lost to the club because of it.

If people choose not to follow the team because of losing, then go enjoy the TAB. Ill still be at the footy next game.

[Titus]

I am all for a new coach, but i do not think it would be that simple.
The club has only in the last few weeks got back in the black, i would safely say tearing up a 5 year contract would be an extremely expensive exercise.

I do not want to see our club in financial trouble in the short term to appease a few band wagoners, as i know that any long term Titan (although they might want a change and demand a change) would not be lost to the club because of it.

If people choose not to follow the team because of losing, then go enjoy the TAB. Ill still be at the footy next game.

I'm hearin' ya Coaster. But can also see the heartbreak in the fans. The fact of the matter is, when we're winning, this kind of talk doesn't circulate. But when we're losing, we're all looking for someone to cop the blame.

Can't blame Searlie now. Can't blame Princey now, so obviously it's Coach who cops it. Like you say, it's an expensive call to pull the rug on a bloke who's just extended his gig. But in a time where performance (in most professions) is data-driven, accountability is hard to hide from.

[Chaos]

I am all for a new coach, but i do not think it would be that simple.
The club has only in the last few weeks got back in the black, i would safely say tearing up a 5 year contract would be an extremely expensive exercise.

I do not want to see our club in financial trouble in the short term to appease a few band wagoners, as i know that any long term Titan (although they might want a change and demand a change) would not be lost to the club because of it.

If people choose not to follow the team because of losing, then go enjoy the TAB. Ill still be at the footy next game.

Fans, culture and sponsorship goes to a team winning games.

When I said losing fans...I mean fans overall...not an individual.
Having belief in a footy team creates new fans...young and old.
Every kid has to watch their first game of footy...they're not going to follow the losing team unless their old man follows them but they may follow a team that beats their family member.

The fan that not many talk about is the guy that has the Titans as their second favourite. He still speaks positively about the club in the work place, club and social environments. He watches the Titans and may even buy merchandising.

What about the fan that always chooses Titans in their footy tipping?
Every tipper and punter cheers for the team they have chosen...the more they tip and win, the more they choose us...the more they watch and the more they cheer...the more positive energy towards the club...lets make them choose us!

The more we win, the more chance of getting prime TV appearances.

You can't get everyone but the more they watch, the more chance of progressing into a stronger level of fan.

The overall fan base creates a positive vibe towards sponsorship.

[Steve]

Get a new coach or keep losing fans.

While I agree we need a new coach, it's not fans you lose, it's bandwagoners. That said, you're certainly less likely to attract new fans, unless it's a local team people want to support rather than the latest team that is going well.

Fans stick by their team through the bad times too. Sharks still have fans, yet they haven't won a grand final in all their 46 years.

All the clubs need bandwagoners, they fill the stands when things are going well.

With all that in mind, a fan can not renew membership, they can not attend games. There are few other ways for a fan to show their displeasure with the coach or above.

That's unfortunate, because the team itself still deserves the support of fans, even if those above them do not.

[Surfers66]

For the guys that attend training or watch occasionally I have a question.


# What is the intensity like at training? seems from the news and other media when i watch they are doing things at half pace.

# and more importantly - Do they ever train at night time? If they dont then they should so the conditions will be similar in to which you play.
If youplay the Friday I would expect a high intensity game simulation and training on the Wednesday night at the same time you would be running out for the friday game.

Thoughts?

[Mexican titan]

We have fantastic leadership at the top IMO.
If you are suggesting David May is doing a poor job, your wrong.

This club was on the brink of collapse and has been streamlined and remodeled brilliantly IMO.
The integration back into the junior clubs has not gone unnoticed with past players like Toopie and Cambell back at the grassroots. The first grade players ambassador roles at all local clubs is starting to take effect. Junior participation levels are through the roof.

After the off field dramas and the fact we lost the club captain, we are touted as a top 8 team.

In my opinion I don't think the coaching is the best it could be. But I have nothing but confidence in David May and the board.

I agree with this totally.

[Bayside Titan]

We have fantastic leadership at the top IMO.
If you are suggesting David May is doing a poor job, your wrong.

This club was on the brink of collapse and has been streamlined and remodeled brilliantly IMO.
The integration back into the junior clubs has not gone unnoticed with past players like Toopie and Cambell back at the grassroots. The first grade players ambassador roles at all local clubs is starting to take effect. Junior participation levels are through the roof.

After the off field dramas and the fact we lost the club captain, we are touted as a top 8 team.

In my opinion I don't think the coaching is the best it could be. But I have nothing but confidence in David May and the board.

100 percent agree. IMO David is doing a great job. What a lot people need to take on board is that DM is just warming to the role. Anyone just taking over a struggling Business on average takes about 9-12 months to really get the Business Humming along. Hard decisions were made about Scott Prince so I'm confident that when the time comes hard decisions about Cartright it will be made. However I , along many others on here do get rather agitated in Cartys decisions for our team make up some weeks . Kind of makes me wonder wether he makes team selections on the run or under pressure and has been not clear in his thoughts behind them?

[Titanic]

bird has got man of the match for state of origin twice playing at five eigth, also not sure bird has played centre before. i know kelly has played wing and fullback before. i really dont think it was that dumb

It was dumb because he broke up our halves for a start.

In answer to the question about the coach when we are winning is simple:

We win in the most lucky ways. Our backs can't score and our formation is one dimensional. When we had Campbell & Co they did it all off the back of their own ability ... surely our memories aren't that poor.

The coach can't seem to put together an offensive game plan, not this year not ever.

[Smakked]

It was dumb because he broke up our halves for a start.

In answer to the question about the coach when we are winning is simple:

We win in the most lucky ways. Our backs can't score and our formation is one dimensional. When we had Campbell & Co they did it all off the back of their own ability ... surely our memories aren't that poor.

The coach can't seem to put together an offensive game plan, not this year not ever.

Spot on!

[Sydney Titans Fanatic]

we should have a team were if someones injured somebody can fit right in there.
Sezer bird-sezer kelly- kelly bird should all be able to work together and get the job done no matter what position there playing, it should all be worked into a game plan incase someone gets injured.
Bird has proven himself in the number 6 jersey for the titans, country and new south wales. it should just be the way it works.
so maybe the coach needs to gel these three together in case another injury does happen down the line?

[DIEHARD]

I've moved some of the coaching debate from David May's thread to a new one here. It was just overwhelming the purpose of the thread.

I do think it is a valid discussion. We may have only ever had one coach but at other times complaining about the coach is an honoured past time.

For the record, I agree with Coaster.