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jenny
25-10-06, 05:48 PM
October 25, 2006
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Convicted drug smuggler Schapelle Corby blames the Bali nine for the severity of her prison sentence.

In her forthcoming book My Story, Corby describes her fear of the heroin trafficking group's Renae Lawrence, "a psychopathic lesbian".

In an extract that appears in The Australian Women's Weekly today, two weeks before the book's official release, Corby said she "hated" the Bali nine and called Lawrence a "freak".

"I felt sure their (Bali nine) crime of trafficking heroin had contributed to me getting 20 years," Corby said.

"I was terrified of Renae Lawrence. I thought she'd pick on me, start fights and ram my head into the cement walls. All the girls who had been sharing cells with her had been telling stories about the freak.

"She refused to let anyone else sleep if she was awake. She kicked them in the head, sexually hit on them, punched them.

"So, by the time she checked in at Kerobokan (prison), I imagined Renae as a psychopathic lesbian. I was scared to death of her."

But Corby's fear did not stop her from preventing Lawrence killing herself with a razor blade.

In the book, written by Corby and Kathryn Bonella from what the magazine calls "secret interviews", Corby gives a harrowing account of prison life. .

"I've seen horrors in here that are sickening beyond belief," she said. "Prisoners bashed to a pulp, girls attacking each other with broken glass bottles . . . people trying to kill themselves. . . prisoners having sex, female guards passionately kissing female prisoners . . . nothing could have prepared me for this."

Her mother, Rosleigh Rose, said her daughter would not be afraid of suffering consequences in the Bali prison for her tell-all book because "nothing could be worse than what Schapelle is going through right now".

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Social Loafer
25-10-06, 06:06 PM
I still think Corby shouldn't be there.. Her case was very dodgy, in a shonky judicial system, with sh!thouse evidence..

jenny
25-10-06, 06:19 PM
I still think Corby shouldn't be there.. Her case was very dodgy, in a shonky judicial system, with sh!thouse evidence..
I dont know if she is guilty or not Schifty, but i cried watching her being sentenced!Couldn't help it.

Capital_Shark
25-10-06, 06:30 PM
I find it a little hard to believe she couldn't tell the difference between a boogie board and 4kgs of marajuana. The obvious weight difference for a start. The smell, and the visual would be key indicators for me. Ever seen 4kgs of marajuana? I'm surprised it fit into a boogie board bag.

As for blaming the Bali 9 I think thats a bit rich. Speaking of rich, whats she getting out of her story? I thought there was something about not being allowed to make money from selling the story of your criminal antics. But then I think to Chopper and I'm not sure...

W.I.L.T
25-10-06, 09:25 PM
I still think Corby shouldn't be there.. Her case was very dodgy, in a shonky judicial system, with sh!thouse evidence..
If Schappelle was a balding 50 year old over weight male you wouldn't be saying that.

Social Loafer
25-10-06, 09:28 PM
If Schappelle was a balding 50 year old over weight male you wouldn't be saying that.

Just an assumption there...

Point I'm making is that the Indonesian Judicial system is dodgy to say the least... and that her case is very different to the Bali 9's one..

W.I.L.T
25-10-06, 09:29 PM
Just an assumption there...

Point I'm making is that the Indonesian Judicial system is dodgy to say the least... and that her case is very different to the Bali's 9 one..
I agree with that.

The majority of people believed she was innocent purely on face value, it is a lot easier to think an attractive 20 something year old person is innocent than a sleazy old man.

Steve Dangerous
25-10-06, 10:09 PM
i don't remember anything about her being attractive...




anyway, that whole family is a fair bit odd.

Steve
26-10-06, 06:47 AM
Nothing dodgy about sleazy old men. *glances around nervously*

That said, she harps on a fair bit about the lesbian thing. Sex sells I suppose. I doubt it's going to be a very accurate portrayal of prison life, but it should ensure she's rich when she gets out.

Poida
26-10-06, 10:02 AM
to be honest until theres real evidence she's guilty i shall think otherwise.
to me its innocent until proven guilty

Capital_Shark
26-10-06, 10:13 AM
to be honest until theres real evidence she's guilty i shall think otherwise.
to me its innocent until proven guilty

She had 4kgs of pot in her boogie board bag ffs what more do you need?

Poida
26-10-06, 10:15 AM
more of whether she intentionally had it there

Capital_Shark
26-10-06, 10:20 AM
more of whether she intentionally had it there

Incase she accidently mistook her stash for her boogie board? She's in Bali airport with 4kgs of pot and there is a dealer in Perth trying to weight up a boogie board into ounce bags.

Poida
26-10-06, 10:23 AM
well i dunno. i dont know for sure what happened

jenny
26-10-06, 10:30 AM
Incase she accidently mistook her stash for her boogie board? She's in Bali airport with 4kgs of pot and there is a dealer in Perth trying to weight up a boogie board into ounce bags.
:rotflmao:

Poida
26-10-06, 10:34 AM
Incase she accidently mistook her stash for her boogie board? She's in Bali airport with 4kgs of pot and there is a dealer in Perth trying to weight up a boogie board into ounce bags.
:lol!:it was 4 kgs?

~Wild Child~
26-10-06, 01:49 PM
well i dunno. i dont know for sure what happened
yeah I agree with this...I really dont think anyone will ever know the truth about what occoured.

~Wild Child~
26-10-06, 01:53 PM
I still think Corby shouldn't be there.. Her case was very dodgy, in a shonky judicial system, with sh!thouse evidence..
Good call Schifty :clap: I think you are exactly right :clap:

Grimmace
26-10-06, 01:55 PM
By people im going to the airport now say my Boogie bag board feels different i wonder what it could be oh well nothing important .............................. I made it to bali Mam can we check your bag please yeah sure here ya go whats this I dunno its supposed to be my boogie board........................ Please as if you couldnt tell.

Poida
26-10-06, 01:56 PM
like i said im not convinced she put the pot in her bag or whatever.
until its proven she put it there ill not assume otherwise

SuperCliffy#01
26-10-06, 02:01 PM
Fact is about Corby that some choose to ignore and that is that she was a seasoned traveller to Bali, Corby's sister and brother in law own a surf and dive shop in Bali, renting out boards and diving equipment, so why after 20 visits she chooses this to the first time ever to take a boogie board to Bali, considering her family owns a shop that rents the stuff, and let's not forget the evidence of the customs official that swore under oath that when she was picked for a search she made overly flirtacious advances towards the custom official.

Corby's BiL has had past criminal charges proved against him for possession of Mary-Jane, Corby is not the sweet innocent she portrays, and someone said if it was not the fact she is a young attactive woman and not some overweight middle aged man then we wouldnot have given a stuff about her, the media concentrated on her because she is a glamour, nothing more nothing less.

Remember she broke Indonesian Law, she was tried in Indonesia, found Guilty in Indonesia and will serve 20 years in Indonesia, her problem not mine.cya, and blaming the Bali 9 is a major cop out.cya. :curse:

~Wild Child~
26-10-06, 02:03 PM
Fact is about Corby that some choose to ignore and that is that she was a seasoned traveller to Bali, Corby's sister and brother in law own a surf and dive shop in Bali, renting out boards and diving equipment, so why after 20 visits she chooses this to the first time ever to take a boogie board to Bali, considering her family owns a shop that rents the stuff, and let's not forget the evidence of the customs official that swore under oath that when she was picked for a search she made overly flirtacious advances towards the custom official.

Corby's BiL has had past criminal charges proved against him for possession of - , Corby is not the sweet she portrays, and someone said if it was not the fact she is a young attactive woman and not some overweight middle aged man then we wouldnot have given a stuff about her, the media concentrated on her because she is a , nothing more nothing less.

Remember she broke Indonesian Law, she was tried in Indonesia, found Guilty in Indonesia and will serve 20 years in Indonesia, her problem not mine.cya, and blaming the Bali 9 is a major cop out.cya. :curse:
I'm not judging Corby on what she looks like or her appearance..I am judging on the facts that are known to me...So much room there for reasonable doubt :)

SuperCliffy#01
26-10-06, 02:07 PM
Well i have no doubt, she is guilty, even her appeals are always dodgy, she is guilty and she will spend 20 years in prison.cya. :dead:

~Wild Child~
26-10-06, 02:08 PM
Well i have no doubt, she is guilty, even her appeals are always dodgy, she is guilty and she will spend 20 years in prison.cya. :dead:
Sad.

SuperCliffy#01
26-10-06, 02:10 PM
Sad in that she is to spend 20 years for smuggling drugs into Bali, sad that she got caught, sad she got convicted, sad she got sentenced or sad that i have no sympathy for her.cya.

Nathalie
26-10-06, 02:16 PM
I think that none of us will ever really know what actually happened.

But really, it all seems a bit dodgy. There are so many holes in the prosecution's case that reasonable doubt should have taken precedence. It is a shonky legal system..

But, like I said, we will probably never know.

~Wild Child~
26-10-06, 02:19 PM
I think that none of us will ever really know what actually happened.

But really, it all seems a bit dodgy. There are so many holes in the prosecution's case that reasonable doubt should have taken precedence. It is a shonky legal system..

But, like I said, we will probably never know.
Yeah, thats why its so sad, for all the reasons you have given here.

SuperCliffy#01
26-10-06, 02:19 PM
Yes it may be shonky but who are we to judge, our legal system isn't all perfect either.cya. :mad:

Poida
26-10-06, 02:20 PM
Yes it may be shonky but who are we to judge, our legal system isn't all perfect either.cya. :mad:
thats true.
the fact we cant trial someone more than once for the same case is something i find ridiculous

Nathalie
26-10-06, 02:21 PM
Yes it may be shonky but who are we to judge, our legal system isn't all perfect either.cya. :mad:


I know. But think about it, in cases where the evidence is overwhelming, the person walks off with such a light sentence (both in Indonesia and here, also other countries).. yet a case where there are so many holes gets an automatic HUGE sentence.

I think I'll go have some cake now.

:D

Grimmace
26-10-06, 02:22 PM
People people people, Indonesia treats Drug traficerrs worse than Militans because in their own eyes Drugs can ruin their economy since she was found with the drugs she has to pay the price and thats how they see it.

SuperCliffy#01
26-10-06, 02:23 PM
Tell me about it, if a person is found not guilty in our system and the old evidence proves correct that person can not be tried again, even if the old evidence proves correct the second time around.cya. :mad:

Poida
26-10-06, 02:26 PM
Tell me about it, if a person is found not guilty in our system and the old evidence proves correct that person can not be tried again, even if the old evidence proves correct the second time around.cya. :mad:
yeh if u think about it for them to be trialed for same sort of thing theyd have to commit another offense.
so bad that if it was murder they were not guilty despite evidence then for them to be trialed again theyd have to commit another murder .
i hate our justice system

jenny
26-10-06, 02:32 PM
Judge gives hope Bali six will avoid death penalties

Mark Forbes Herald Correspondent in Denpasar
October 19, 2006
Scott Rush ? grounds for a review of his death sentence.

Scott Rush ? grounds for a review of his death sentence.
Photo: AP Photo/Firdia Lisnawati
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SIX Australians on death row in Bali for heroin smuggling have been given hope of avoiding firing squads after the judge who sentenced two fellow couriers to life imprisonment said their roles did not warrant execution.

Muhammad Taufik's reasons for the judgement rejecting the death penalty in the cases of Michael Czugaj and Martin Stephens were released to their lawyers yesterday.

Judge Taufik said the difference in sentencing gave the other members of the Bali nine grounds for requesting a judicial review of their death penalties.

The presiding judge in the Supreme Court appeals of Czugaj and Stephens said the pair were only "intermediaries" in the smuggling scheme and did not deserve death sentences.

In Bali yesterday, Colin McDonald, the Australian head of the team representing courier Scott Rush, said the disparity outlined by Judge Taufik would be the central plank in a request for the Supreme Court to review its verdicts.

The other three couriers facing the firing squad would be able to make the same argument, he said.

"The sentencing differential gives solid grounds for a judicial review," Mr McDonald said. "Scott was in the same factual circumstances. By what logical reason could he have got the death penalty when he was never anything more than a low-level courier?"

Czugaj and Stephens's lawyers said they had not studied the judgements and would not comment until they consulted their clients.

Judge Taufik said life imprisonment was a sufficient penalty for Stephens and Czugaj.

"Their roles in this case are intermediaries, not permanent syndicate members. They are kids, around their 20s, with jobs, who were promised a holiday in Bali.

"I think life imprisonment is enough ? Later on there will also be a remission."

The court judgement for Stephens states it could not justify reducing his penalty from life imprisonment.

In Czugaj's case, the judgement says his term should be increased from 20 years to life because he had not considered "the consequence of the drugs import and distribution which [would] have a negative impact on the nation's life".

The other three condemned couriers, Matthew Norman, Si Yi Chen and Tan Duc Thanh Nguyen, also claimed to be pawns in the plan to import more than 8 kilograms of heroin into Australia. A different panel of judges heard their Supreme Court appeals.

Two ringleaders of the scheme, Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, received death sentences in their original trial. Their sentences were upheld in an appeal to the Supreme Court.

Last month's Supreme Court decision to upgrade the four couriers' sentences to death came as a shock, as prosecutors had only requested life penalties.

Their lawyers have been awaiting the reasons for the decision so they can frame a last-ditch plea to the Supreme Court.

The full judgements in the remaining six cases are unlikely to be released until next month.

Mr McDonald said he was drawing up plans for a judicial review for Rush, based on the disparity in sentencing.

"The parity issue is the strongest case he's got," Mr McDonald said. "I'm eager to get the Supreme Court's reasons because it's difficult to see any logical reason for his penalty."

SuperCliffy#01
26-10-06, 02:35 PM
It is a messy situation, how can one comment, only to say i hope justice will be seen to be done.cya.

jenny
26-10-06, 02:36 PM
SOME bleeding hearts seem to forget that...None of this MOB, gave any consideration, to the TRAUMA they were going to bring back home...They done it all for the mighty DOLLAR! They will get what they deserve ...I HOPE!

Capital_Shark
26-10-06, 02:53 PM
thats true.
the fact we cant trial someone more than once for the same case is something i find ridiculous

The double jeopardy thing is very complicated. While in the broad scheme of things it can seem ridiculous that someone may get away with murder simply because they were trialed and declared innocent before a technology or some evidence was found that proved beyond doubt they did it, smaller, more complicated things could have people being dragged through court almost endlessly, especially if the cops have it out for 'em.

Capital_Shark
26-10-06, 02:56 PM
SOME bleeding hearts seem to forget that...None of this MOB, gave any consideration, to the TRAUMA they were going to bring back home...They done it all for the mighty DOLLAR! They will get what they deserve ...I HOPE!

I'm not so worried about that fact. Comes down to supply and demand, really. If there are people willing to put this crap up their veins and pay for it, thats their choice really.

Titanium_BD1103
26-10-06, 02:56 PM
Merged... ppls can we keep all the Bali Nine info in the one thread.. we don't need a new thread for every issue that occurs with the Bali Nine, Thanks... :)

jenny
26-10-06, 02:58 PM
Merged... ppls can we keep all the Bali Nine info in the one thread.. we don't need a new thread for every issue that occurs with the Bali Nine, Thanks... :)
Sorry TJ! Thankyou!

jenny
26-10-06, 03:01 PM
I'm not so worried about that fact. Comes down to supply and demand, really. If there are people willing to put this crap up their veins and pay for it, thats their choice really.
Yeah but sharky, their families dont need the crap that comes with it! I have seen loved ones shattered, by the choices their loved ones have made! i say throw the BOOK at them ;) Plus ...We the Tax Payer have to end up forking out as well!

Capital_Shark
26-10-06, 03:04 PM
Yeah but sharky, their families dont need the crap that comes with it! I have seen loved ones shattered, by the choices their loved ones have made! i say throw the BOOK at them ;) Plus ...We the Tax Payer have to end up forking out as well!

I see your point. But even if you crucify the Bali 9, the junkies that could have brought what they were smuggling, would have got high from someone else.

jenny
26-10-06, 03:11 PM
I see your point. But even if you crucify the Bali 9, the junkies that could have brought what they were smuggling, would have got high from someone else.
Sharkey i would like to see ALL DEALERS lined up against a wall and SHOT! :)
Goverments DONT Try hard enough!
:ok: Hmmmmmmmmmmmm! Wonder Why??? :naughty:

Capital_Shark
26-10-06, 03:15 PM
Sharkey i would like to see ALL DEALERS lined up against a wall and SHOT! :)
Goverments DONT Try hard enough!
:ok: Hmmmmmmmmmmmm! Wonder Why??? :naughty:

Why? They're supplying something people want, its only becase the government has deemed it illegal that people are opposed to drug dealers. Why not line up the tobacconists that sell smokes to people? The bar tender that serves drinks to the bloke who has a drinking problem. The casino staff that let the problem gambler in. The kid at Maccas that keeps serving the morbidly obese people their burgers and fries.

Nathalie
26-10-06, 03:17 PM
Why? They're supplying something people want, its only becase the government has deemed it illegal that people are opposed to drug dealers. Why not line up the tobacconists that sell smokes to people? The bar tender that serves drinks to the bloke who has a drinking problem. The casino staff that let the problem gambler in. The kid at Maccas that keeps serving the morbidly obese people their burgers and fries.

Because, no matter how much you try to deny it, it's their choice to walk into the fast food restaurant, the casino, the bar... it sucks but hey, it's true...

Capital_Shark
26-10-06, 03:20 PM
Because, no matter how much you try to deny it, it's their choice to walk into the fast food restaurant, the casino, the bar... it sucks but hey, it's true...

Just as its a junkies choice to buy drugs...

I wasn't trying to defend the obese, gamblers, drunks etc. Nathalie, nor was I actually suggesting the Maccas kid, the casino staff or the bar tenders etc. be responsible. I was pointing out that no one has a problem with these people supplying these other unhealthy addictive products, however people want drug dealers crucified, for the only reason I can see, is because the government has called it illegal. If the government could work out how to justify selling illicit drugs and making the cash the drug dealers do, guaruntee they would. Until then, its illegal.

jenny
26-10-06, 03:21 PM
Why? They're supplying something people want, its only becase the government has deemed it illegal that people are opposed to drug dealers. Why not line up the tobacconists that sell smokes to people? The bar tender that serves drinks to the bloke who has a drinking problem. The casino staff that let the problem gambler in. The kid at Maccas that keeps serving the morbidly obese people their burgers and fries.
I dont think myself as a person who will have a good time and a drink, will go and bash some old lady over the head, because i have an addiction! Only sick and stupid people want drugs...And if the goverment legalised drugs :dizzy:
i would like to see them lined up against that wall with the dealers! :naughty:

Capital_Shark
26-10-06, 03:29 PM
I dont think myself as a person who will have a good time and a drink, will go and bash some old lady over the head, because i have an addiction! Only sick and stupid people want drugs...And if the goverment legalised drugs :dizzy:
i would like to see them lined up against that wall with the dealers! :naughty:

Thats only because we're capable of having a few drinks, even getting sh!tfaced, and not going out and 'bashing some old lady over the head' or whatever unsavoury behaviour. However, some people don't have that ability.

Pretty certain if junkies had the financial ability to get as much drugs as they wanted/needed, majority wouldn't be out stealing and what-not.

jenny
26-10-06, 03:36 PM
Thats only because we're capable of having a few drinks, even getting sh!tfaced, and not going out and 'bashing some old lady over the head' or whatever unsavoury behaviour. However, some people don't have that ability.

Pretty certain if junkies had the financial ability to get as much drugs as they wanted/needed, majority wouldn't be out stealing and what-not.
Thats a point too! But we have to get rid of these low lifes that are driving around in their Jags,and wearing PRADA.. At the Misery of thousands of people! Not just the users that suffer unfortunately!

Capital_Shark
26-10-06, 03:37 PM
Thats a point too! But we have to get rid of these low lifes that are driving around in their Jags,and wearing PRADA.. At the Misery of thousands of people! Not just the users that suffer unfortunately!

You talking about drug dealers or CEO's, here, Jenny?

jenny
26-10-06, 03:38 PM
You talking about drug dealers or CEO's, here, Jenny?
If the cap fits :laugh:

dean
26-10-06, 04:00 PM
Drugs and the filth that deal in it are the scourge of society. I'm with Jenny, line them up and shoot the lot. Jails are busting at the seams as about 90% of all crimes commited are directly drug related. Why should we, the decent hard working, law abiding citizen pay to house and feed this scum. Sorry but its a sore point with me. You deal or take drugs, then you suffer the consequences when you get caught. If that happens to be death by firing squad then that'll do me just fine.

Steve
26-10-06, 04:06 PM
Drugs and the filth that deal in it are the scourge of society. I'm with Jenny, line them up and shoot the lot. Jails are busting at the seams as about 90% of all crimes commited are directly drug related. Why should we, the decent hard working, law abiding citizen pay to house and feed this scum. Sorry but its a sore point with me. You deal or take drugs, then you suffer the consequences when you get caught. If that happens to be death by firing squad then that'll do me just fine.

Exactly my sentiments. The laws aren't made up on the spot, they exist, and if you take the risk and get caught, then you deserve what you get. If you smuggle drugs into Indonesia, expect a bullet. Don't complain it's unfair, you knew the risks.

dean
26-10-06, 04:09 PM
Exactly my sentiments. The laws aren't made up on the spot, they exist, and if you take the risk and get caught, then you deserve what you get. If you smuggle drugs into Indonesia, expect a bullet. Don't complain it's unfair, you knew the risks.


Well said Steve, you hit the nail on the head.

Nathalie
27-10-06, 08:25 AM
Just as its a junkies choice to buy drugs...

I wasn't trying to defend the obese, gamblers, drunks etc. Nathalie, nor was I actually suggesting the Maccas kid, the casino staff or the bar tenders etc. be responsible. I was pointing out that no one has a problem with these people supplying these other unhealthy addictive products, however people want drug dealers crucified, for the only reason I can see, is because the government has called it illegal. If the government could work out how to justify selling illicit drugs and making the cash the drug dealers do, guaruntee they would. Until then, its illegal.

Tis all good. I know what you meant. :)

Hoppy2007Dragons
27-10-06, 08:37 AM
finally some voices of reasoning.

the law is the law, no matter who or what you are.

W.I.L.T
27-10-06, 09:34 AM
A couple of my friends are into there drugs and they are of the opinion that if you don't get caught then it's not illegal, I am as much worried about there health as I am about them getting arrested, drugs are for idiots, even if you start on the small stuff there's no telling what you might do while under the influence of such things (eg take harder drugs).

It's like drinking, many people I know will take an 8 pack to a party and think yeah that's a safe amount, after knocking back 8 they feel invincible so they go have some shots and usually hit the goon. Twenty minutes later there vomitting everywhere. I think drugs may also work this way, someone thinks ' aww I'll just have a half a pill, spice the night up a bit' 30 minutes after taking that they think 'hey this is great, I'll take another whole pill' this is when the problems begin.

Capital_Shark
27-10-06, 10:53 AM
A couple of my friends are into there drugs and they are of the opinion that if you don't get caught then it's not illegal, I am as much worried about there health as I am about them getting arrested, drugs are for idiots, even if you start on the small stuff there's no telling what you might do while under the influence of such things (eg take harder drugs).

It's like drinking, many people I know will take an 8 pack to a party and think yeah that's a safe amount, after knocking back 8 they feel invincible so they go have some shots and usually hit the goon. Twenty minutes later there vomitting everywhere. I think drugs may also work this way, someone thinks ' aww I'll just have a half a pill, spice the night up a bit' 30 minutes after taking that they think 'hey this is great, I'll take another whole pill' this is when the problems begin.

8 pack? Of what? Beer is usually in 6 packs, except for TEDies Platinum. And mate what parties are you going to where people decide to hit GOON?! Are these year 8 parties where everyone chips in their allowance to buy a couple $12 4L casks of Coolabah? Anyone is gonna spew drinking that crap!

Nathalie
27-10-06, 12:09 PM
I think drugs may also work this way, someone thinks ' aww I'll just have a half a pill, spice the night up a bit' 30 minutes after taking that they think 'hey this is great, I'll take another whole pill' this is when the problems begin.

I am so glad that I have never even thought about taking drugs. I've never even been tempted. Even if I was, I'm not stupid enough to take them. People have been warned, they know the consequences, quite often they see the consequences, they know what'll happen if they take drugs. Sad stuff. :cry:

Teegy
27-10-06, 12:16 PM
A couple of my friends are into there drugs and they are of the opinion that if you don't get caught then it's not illegal, I am as much worried about there health as I am about them getting arrested, drugs are for idiots, even if you start on the small stuff there's no telling what you might do while under the influence of such things (eg take harder drugs).

It's like drinking, many people I know will take an 8 pack to a party and think yeah that's a safe amount, after knocking back 8 they feel invincible so they go have some shots and usually hit the goon. Twenty minutes later there vomitting everywhere. I think drugs may also work this way, someone thinks ' aww I'll just have a half a pill, spice the night up a bit' 30 minutes after taking that they think 'hey this is great, I'll take another whole pill' this is when the problems begin.
mate im assuming these are the usual high school parties that happen everywhere where the kids are still experimenting with alcohol and still cannot handle it at all

Nathalie
27-10-06, 12:20 PM
mate im assuming these are the usual high school parties that happen everywhere where the kids are still experimenting with alcohol and still cannot handle it at all

Or really sad people in their 20's & 30's who have nothing better to do.. :fence:

Teegy
27-10-06, 12:21 PM
Or really sad people in their 20's & 30's who have nothing better to do.. :fence:
no i lookied at his profile and he is still at high school age

Nathalie
27-10-06, 12:23 PM
no i lookied at his profile and he is still at high school age

Nah I meant that there could be people in their 20's & 30's doing this. Perhaps even older.

That's all.

Here, have some donuts :) They're cinnamon, and yummy! :D

SuperCliffy#01
27-10-06, 01:07 PM
As i said in a previous thread Schapelle Corby and the Bali nine deserve everything they get, i have no sympathy for them.cya. :(

jenny
14-11-06, 06:20 PM
Schapelle 'humiliated' by magazine gossip

By Roberta Mancuso

November 14, 2006 12:00
Article from: AAP



CONVICTED drug smuggler Schapelle Corby says she's humiliated and crushed over "degrading" gossip being written about her.

In an interview for The Bulletin magazine this week, Corby describes stories in women's gossip magazines about her as complete fiction.

?I've been a prostitute, I have jail lovers, I'm now a ****, a weirdo, all these horrible things printed about me and it's not true,? she said.

New Idea reported Corby had a ?secret jail lover? while Woman's Day claimed she had a love affair with Bali Nine ringleader Andrew Chan.

?The whole nation, my home, reading degrading gossip ... it crushes me and devastates me,? Corby said, questioning where she was supposed to have sex in the crowded and filthy jail she was being held in.

?I will never understand why this constant degrading of me goes on.

?I've been humiliated ? exceedingly ? way over the normal limits of life's humiliations.

?I have a 20-year sentence. I've been hurt beyond belief. Why do these people keep attacking me, insulting me? I won't be quiet and stand for it any longer. This is why I've written a book.?

Corby, 29, is serving a 20-year sentence in Bali's Kerobokan Prison for smuggling 4.1kg of cannabis inside a boogie board bag in October 2004.

Her book, My Story, was co-written by former TV producer Kathryn Bonella and is based on a series of secret interviews Bonella conducted with Corby inside the jail.

In the Bulletin article, written by Bonella, Corby described Kerobokan as a ?soul-sucking dump? and did not want anyone to think her life was in any way OK.

?I may wear make-up and I may look OK but I'm not OK,? she said.

?I'm hanging on tightly to a knot at the end of a rope and I know I could slip off anytime.?

Corby, who has maintained her innocence, said she was hopeful ?the person who did this? would finally speak out and the Federal Government would do more to help.

?This is slowly killing me, I am losing who I am,? she said.

?I don't want to be lonely anymore. I want this heartache to be over. I want to live again.?

jenny
27-11-06, 03:38 PM
COURIER MAIL
AFP could seize Corby book profits

November 27, 2006 03:15pm
Article from: AAP



CONVICTED drug smuggler Schapelle Corby might make lots of money from her book but she may never get to see any of it.
Justice Minister Chris Ellison today confirmed proceeds from sale of the book - titled My Story - could be confiscated under Commonwealth proceeds of crime legislation.

"This is a matter which is being looked at. It is something which is being considered by the DPP (Director of Public Prosecutions) and the Australian Federal Police," he said.

"The legislation that we have put in place does provide for literary proceeds which relate to criminal activity to be seized or an application to be made for a seizure of those proceeds."

Corby, 29, is currently in Bali's Kerobokan Prison, where she is serving a 20-year sentence for smuggling 4.1kg of cannabis inside a bodyboard bag in October 2004.

Her case attracted wide interest and her book has proved an immediate bestseller with more than 17,000 copies sold in its first eight days on sale.

Senator Ellison declined to comment further.

He said he had no role or involvement in the case.

"Any action that may or may not be taken is not one for the Government. It is one to be taken by the AFP and DPP," he said.

jenny
27-12-06, 07:04 PM
One month down, 211 to go for Corby
GOLD COAST BULLETIN
26Dec06

THE families of convicted drug traffickers Schapelle Corby and Renae Lawrence have welcomed a one-month cut to the pair's jail terms but wish it could be more.

Corby and Lawrence are serving 20-year sentences at Kerkobokan prison where the Indonesian Ministry of Human Rights and Justice decrees announcing the remission were stuck on the walls yesterday.

Corby, a former Gold Coast beauty course student, was jailed for smuggling 4.1kg of cannabis into Bali while Lawrence was sentenced for trying to smuggle 8.3kg of heroin to Australia.

Prison governor Ilham Djaya said they deserved the one-month remission because they had behaved well and, as prisoners, it was their right.

Corby's family in Queensland wished their loved one could be home sooner.

Some family members had visited her in prison over the weekend and would do so again in the days after Christmas.

Her sister Mercedes, who has returned to Australia for the birth of her third child, welcomed the sentence reduction but said the family hoped Corby would be released on appeal.

"We're not thinking there's 20 years or there's 17 to go -- we just hope she'll be home soon," she said.

"But it's sad because we're not with Schapelle today."

Lawrence's mother, Beverley Waterman, had family and friends over for Christmas lunch at her home near Newcastle.

"Any remission is greatly accepted but, obviously, I'm hoping that she gets a lot more of them," said Ms Waterman.

She said she had spoken to her daughter who was in 'pretty good spirits'. "It's very sad (to not have her home for Christmas)," said Ms Waterman.

"Obviously, she's very sad as well but we just make the best of the situation."

Lawrence is the only member of the Bali Nine to get remission. Her fellow drug smugglers are not eligible because they are serving life terms or are sentenced to death.

Corby is due for release in July, 2024, while Lawrence's sentence runs until July, 2025.

Lawrence has accepted her sentence but Corby is appealing against her conviction.

Remission for prisoners in Indonesia is granted twice a year: on Independence Day in August and on holy days according to the convict's religion.

The Indonesian and Australian governments are drafting a prisoner exchange program.

It was due to have been signed this month but was postponed until next year.

If the agreement is signed, the prisoners can serve their sentence in their own country.

jenny
27-12-06, 10:02 PM
Court justifies Bali nine death sentence

By Olivia Rondonuwu in Jakarta

December 27, 2006 09:16pm
Article from: AAP

COURIER MAIL
THE Indonesian Supreme Court today revealed its reasons for increasing the sentence of Australian drug mule Scott Rush to death.

On August 31, Indonesia's highest court on August 31 ordered Rush be executed after he appealed against his original life term.

The court today gave its reasons for upgrading the 21-year-old Brisbane heroin smuggler's sentence.

The Supreme Court's 55-page dossier said the panel of three judges had granted Rush's wish to change his sentence, but instead of freeing him or granting him a lesser term they decided he should face the firing squad.

"Judging solely that the defendant Scott Anthony Rush is proven legitimately and convincingly guilty of committing an organised crime without any right, exporting narcotics and ... sentence him to death", the dossier said.

The reasons were "the nature of the crime is a narcotics violation that is very disadvantageous and is a great danger to the lives of people, society, the nation and state of Indonesia and other countries", it said.

The amount of heroin found strapped to Rush's body, 1.693kg, also was "significant", it said.

The dossier said the crime carried the maximum penalty of death.

The judges also said that the High Court should have fined Rush a maximum one million rupiah ($145,000).

Panel chief Iskandar Kamil said today it was legal to increase a sentence at appeal.

Rush, who celebrated his 21st birthday early this month, was caught with three other members of the Bali Nine trying to export a total of 8.3kg of heroin from Bali to Australia in July last year.

The other three were Michael Czugaj, Martin Stephens and Renae Lawrence.

Czugaj and Stephens are both appealing against their life sentences.

Lawrence, the only woman in the Bali Nine group, has accepted her 20-year sentence.

On Christmas Day, she received a one-month remission for good behaviour, as did convicted drug smuggler Schapelle Corby.

Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan, the accused leaders of the Bali Nine, were sentenced to death. Their sentences have since been upheld through Indonesia's highest court.

Rush is now with the rest of the Bali Nine, including Thanh Duc Tan Nguyen, Si Yi Chen and Matthew James Norman, in the maximum security tower of Bali's Kerobokan prison which was used for the Bali Bombers before the terrorists were removed to Java.

Rush initially chose not to appeal his life term, but changed his mind and decided to appeal to the Supreme Court after the High Court reduced the sentences of Nguyen, Chen, and Norman to 20 years.

dee13
03-01-07, 07:00 PM
If you traffic drugs into a country where the maximum penalty is death, Expect the worst when you eventually get caught.

I have zero tollerance for drug use, drug trafficing, drug manufacturing and drug selling.

I approve of the death penalty because these type of people have ruined so many innocent lives. Killed young people who may have been something.

They prey on the weak.

They should be kept out of society where they can't do any harm.

jenny
04-01-07, 11:26 PM
Corby to be transferred to Java prison

THE AGE

January 4, 2007 - 8:19PM


Convicted drug smuggler Schapelle Corby should be thankful she is being transferred to a prison in east Java, Bali prison governor Ilham Djaya says.

The governor of Kerobokan Prison - the man who requested Corby's transfer - says the inmate should be thankful she is going to a "better prison".

Corby described the prison she is currently in as a "disgusting slum" in her recent autobiography.

Djaya said Corby had made some efforts to stop the transfer, and admitted that some people had pleaded with him to cancel the move.

"If she likes it here so much, why would she write that the toilet in the prison is gruesome, that the warden sexually harassed the inmates?" Djaya said.

Corby also complained of being unable to exercise on the prison's tennis court, he said.

"If she cannot do some sports here, in there (Sukun prison) she can run around 20 laps if she likes," Djaya said.

He said the transfer would be a positive move.

"We are thinking positive for her, trying to provide a better system that would create a better person," Djaya said.

In her book My Story, launched in November, Corby describes the prison "Hotel Kerobokan", as a "dark hell hole" with no running water or power, with easy access for rats and snakes.

"We were living in a disgusting slum, in the most vile and unhygienic conditions imaginable," Corby wrote.

"It was not fit for human beings, it was not fit for a dog.

"It made me sick, I threw up often, had non-stop diarrhoea and persistent ear infections."

Djaya, who has Corby's book on a shelf in his office, admitted to reading it but would not say what he thought of it.

Corby's soon-to-be new home Sukun Prison in Malang, East Java, is the closest women's prison to Kerobokan, but is still hundreds of kilometres away.

While she now lives in a cell with eight to 10 inmates, her new cell will be more spacious with only two or three inmates, Djaya said.

The former student beautician has a sister, Mercedes, who lives in Bali and provides her with food and other amenities.

Australian tourists also visit, offering support, food and other trinkets.

Prison department officials said Corby could be transferred anytime. However, authorities are awaiting funding from Jakarta.

The transfer was requested by the prison governor to the directorate general of prisons in Jakarta.

Transfer requests are generally made because the prison is overcrowded or for security reasons.

Kerobokan Prison currently has 838 prisoners, even though its capacity is for only 323 inmates.

Corby is one of 238 prisoners to be moved from the facility.

Indonesian prisoners cannot reject their transfer unless they have solid reasons to halt it, Djaya said

jenny
04-01-07, 11:30 PM
It would have paid to bite the Bullet..She knocks their Prisons and then thinks there will be NO repercussions..Where does she think she is?? Australia..

Capital_Shark
04-01-07, 11:32 PM
It would have paid to bite the Bullet..She knocks their Prisons and then thinks there will be NO repercussions..Where does she think she is?? Australia..

lol good point. Now whats to say the other prision isn't gonna treat her crappy so they get their name in her next book lol she's got 18+ years to write it after all...

jenny
04-01-07, 11:37 PM
lol good point. Now whats to say the other prision isn't gonna treat her crappy so they get their name in her next book lol she's got 18+ years to write it after all...
Sure Has...After bagging them, they were not about to UPGRADE her to the Marriott ....... Dumb Move :dead:

Capital_Shark
04-01-07, 11:39 PM
Tough break for Schappel though huh .. The only people who read her book are the people who run the prision she's ripping on

jenny
04-01-07, 11:40 PM
Tough break for Schappel though huh .. The only people who read her book are the people who run the prision she's ripping on
LOL...i gather there will be NO sequel!

Capital_Shark
04-01-07, 11:42 PM
LOL...i gather there will be NO sequel!

lol "ohhh, you wanna write another book ey, Corby?! Well ... NO MORE PAPER FOR YOU!"

jenny
04-01-07, 11:43 PM
lol "ohhh, you wanna write another book ey, Corby?! Well ... NO MORE PAPER FOR YOU!"
:spit:

Ryan
05-01-07, 11:52 AM
If you traffic drugs into a country where the maximum penalty is death, Expect the worst when you eventually get caught.

I have zero tollerance for drug use, drug trafficing, drug manufacturing and drug selling.

I approve of the death penalty because these type of people have ruined so many innocent lives. Killed young people who may have been something.

They prey on the weak.

They should be kept out of society where they can't do any harm.
My thoughts exactly :mad:

bigjim
05-01-07, 02:28 PM
My thoughts exactly :mad:
That's all very well if your legal system is unbiased, without corruption and beyond reproach.
Does that sound like Indonesia.

And when it comes to the death penalty, you better get it right 100% of the time, no second chances.
But anyway, who cares, the're just dumb greedy Westerners, nobody will miss them anyway, will they. And even if they didn't do it, there likely guilty of something, so just string em up.
A few innocents is the cost of justice in Indonesia. It's a price the're willing to pay, what about you?

~Wild Child~
23-01-07, 11:52 PM
Tuesday, 23 January 2007
Death too harsh for Bali Nine: Indon cop
By Karen Michelmore
Indonesia's top enforcement official believes sentences handed to four members of the Bali Nine smuggling ring are too harsh.

But he says it is appropriate that two others - ringleaders Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran - be put to for their lead roles in the failed plot to smuggle from Bali into Australia.

The views of I Made Mangku Pastika, executive director of the National Narcotics Board, could provide a boost for some of the Bali Nine fighting to avoid being put before a firing squad.

Pastika said the penalty was an appropriate sentence "for the worst and most brutal gangsters".

In his view, Chan and Sukumaran fell into that category.

But the other four sentenced to - mule Scott Rush, and three arrested at Kuta's Melasti hotel, Matthew Norman, Tan Duc Thanh Nguyen, and Si Yi Chen - did not, Pastika said.

He said he was surprised when Indonesia's Supreme Court upgraded the punishment of the four from life sentences last year.

The lower Denpasar District Court had got it right with the original sentences of for Chan and Sukumaran, and life for the other four who played lesser roles, Pastika said.

"Personally, I think the punishment that was given in the Denpasar Court is sufficient for those people, according to the role of each person," Pastika told journalists.

"According to me, as the chief of police and personally involved in the investigation of the case, I think the punishment from the court in Denpasar was very fair and sufficient for the group, because those people had different roles.

"For two people who were sentenced with the penalty in Denpasar had the most important role and those two people arranged everything."

He said Indonesia faced a serious problem, with 3.2 million users, and dozens of s a day from abuse.

He also said he had "deep concerns" about the growing links between illicit trafficking and ism, and other transnational organised crimes.

"Anyone who sells is involved in an international criminal enterprise that is thousands of Indonesian youth each year," he said.

However, Pastika said the upgrading of the sentences of four of the Bali Nine was unusual, and may have been done in the "spirit of fighting against one crime" - .

All six of the Bali Nine on row are planning last ditch legal challenges.

Pastika said he decided to arrest four Bali Nine mules at Bali's international airport rather than allow them to return to Australia because he feared the syndicate would grow even bigger.

"We worry that if this syndicate is not handled in this country, where the penalty is still implemented, this syndicate will become bigger and bigger and threaten (Indonesia)," he said.

"I could just leave them to go to Australia and tell the Australian Federal Police ... but this syndicate was growing bigger and bigger."

http://batemansbay.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=international%20news&sub

jenny
17-08-07, 03:27 PM
Schappelle Misses Out
By Zakki Hakim

August 17, 2007 04:01pm

WHILE Australian Schapelle Corby has missed out on a prison sentence reduction for having a mobile phone in her cell, ten terrorists behind the Bali bombings will be out of jail early.

The Islamic militants were jailed over the 2002 and 2005 Bali bombings in which dozens of Australians died.

But they are beneficiaries of sentence reductions traditionally given as part of Indonesia's Independence Day celebrations to prisoners with noted good behaviour.

Authorities in Indonesia this year proceeded with the cuts, of between two and five months, despite widespread anger in Australia in previous years.


Those who benefited from today's remissions were serving between eight and 18 years for everything from helping to plan the bombings, to sheltering the main suspects, to setting up a website on how to kill foreigners. :banghead: :censored:

Six men involved in the October 12, 2002 Bali blasts - which killed 202 people, including 88 Australians - had their sentences cut by five months, said Ilham Djaya, the chief warden at Bali's main prison, citing good behaviour.

Four others convicted over the 2005 attacks that left 20 people dead received two month remissions, he said. Four Australians died in that attack, and 19 others were injured.

Indonesia has been hit by a string of terrorist attacks blamed on the al-Qaeda-linked militant group Jemaah Islamiah.

But it has not suffered a suicide bombing in nearly two years, thanks largely to the arrest and imprisonment of hundreds of suspects, prompting the country's president to claim victory yesterday in the so-called war on terror.

The government says all prisoners in Indonesia have a constitutional right to sentence reductions, even convicted militants - except for those serving life in prison or with death sentences.

Justice and Human Rights Minister Andi Matalatta said about 64,000 inmates received cuts today, most by a few months, and of those about 6,600 were freed.

Among those who did not benefit was Australian marijuana smuggler Schapelle Corby, who missed out because she was caught with a mobile phone in her Bali jail cell.

But fellow Australian, Bali Nine heroin trafficker Renae Lawrence, had her 20-year jail term shaved by three months.
Telegraph

Capital_Shark
17-08-07, 03:33 PM
If we sell uranium to the Indians, I reckon we make it on the provision that the Australian public nominates which island they test their new nuclear power on. My vote goes to Indonesia.

Corby was caught with a mobile phone? Well so were some of those terrorist pricks. Only difference is Corby was text messaging, they were using the phone to detonate explosives and kill people.

jenny
17-08-07, 03:34 PM
If we sell uranium to the Indians, I reckon we make it on the provision that the Australian public nominates which island they test their new nuclear power on. My vote goes to Indonesia.

:laugh: :laugh: Thats a ripper Sharkey :p

travop
17-08-07, 04:39 PM
If we sell uranium to the Indians, I reckon we make it on the provision that the Australian public nominates which island they test their new nuclear power on. My vote goes to Indonesia.

.

lol though we wont be able to get many pirated dvds anymore:duh:

Coaster
17-08-07, 04:41 PM
lol though we wont be able to get many pirated dvds anymore:duh:


Just make them yourself, much easier

Social Loafer
17-08-07, 06:48 PM
Just make them yourself, much easier

Much larger profit margin in AUS$$$ too..

jenny
21-08-07, 06:33 PM
Corby family angry at Rudd snub

SCHAPELLE Corby's mother Rosleigh Rose has attacked Labor leader Kevin Rudd for not acknowledging the plight of her daughter, now serving 20 years in an Indonesian jail for drug trafficking.

Ms Rose told The Bulletin magazine she and Schapelle's aunt, who lives in Mr Rudd's Brisbane electorate of Griffith, had "written to him heaps".

"She's been to the office. She's rung. And not a single reply," Ms Rose said.

"She's had nothing, not even a single phone call to her or anything.

"I just think it's wrong."



Ms Rose said Mr Rudd would not get her vote after snubbing her family's situation.

"We've not had one acknowledgement, not even saying, 'sorry, my hands are tied, or I can't do anything'," she said.

"All I can think is he's not here to help Australians."



Corby, 30, was convicted in May 2005 of smuggling 4kg of cannabis into the Indonesian island of Bali.
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Capital_Shark
21-08-07, 07:39 PM
Leave a short message and a contact number across the tits of a stripper and Mr Rudd will get back to you at his soonest convenience.

jenny
21-08-07, 07:40 PM
Leave a short message and a contact number across the tits of a stripper and Mr Rudd will get back to you at his soonest convenience.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Hoppy2007Dragons
21-08-07, 09:02 PM
But he will be so blind and will be unable to recollect the message and thus corby will still be in jail.

jenny
17-09-07, 02:40 PM
Fury at Bali Nine legal leak
By Stephen Fitzpatrick
September 16, 2007

INDONESIAN legal authorities have reacted with outrage to the leaking of a sensitive legal opinion that could seal the executions of three members of the Bali Nine heroin-smuggling gang.
The opinion, by three Denpasar District Court judges, was supposed to be sent confidentially to the Supreme Court in Jakarta, but was released this week to a local journalist in Bali.

In it, the judges recommend a judicial review request lodged by Matthew Norman, Si Yi Chen and Tan Duc Than Nguyen not be viewed favourably.

Such judicial reviews are rarely endorsed by the lower courts where they are heard - making the opinion itself an unreliable barometer of how the Supreme Court will move - but lawyer Erwin Siregar said yesterday he was worried the leak could influence the higher body.

"As far as I know - and I studied law for five years - legal opinions (such as this) are top-secret documents, which are only meant for the Supreme Court,'' Mr Siregar said.

The chief judge on the three-man panel behind the opinion, Martin Bidara, was furious yesterday over the leak but refused to comment to journalists. His anger was matched by concern from Indonesia's influential Judicial Commission, effectively the country's legal ombudsman.

"Documents such as this are not for the public - they are secret and are supposed to be guarded,'' Commissioner Soekotjo Soeparto said.

The Supreme Court in Jakarta typically takes months to hand down judgments - Australian marijuana smuggler Schapelle Corby is still waiting to hear her fate, after her own review wound up last August - so the three still face a prolonged wait.

This is the same court that raised their 20-year sentences to death in a previous review.
Telegraph