Round 1: RAIDERS vs TITANS (2020)

[DIEHARD]

RAIDERS vs TITANS

[Mr Bods]

Win this and our club has been turned around in the space of one off season

[Croc]

Win this and our club has been turned around in the space of one off season

Win this and the media will talk about how bad Canberra were and never give any credit to us! We will need to win a few good games to change the critics! Hopefully a big change of attitude and some new players will bring us of the bottom of the ladder

[Mr Bods]

Win this and the media will talk about how bad Canberra were and never give any credit to us! We will need to win a few good games to change the critics! Hopefully a big change of attitude and some new players will bring us of the bottom of the ladder

I wouldn’t care about the media’s response if we won. A win away against the GF runners up and we have a swagger.

[DIEHARD]

In a very difficult ground to win at. And big home support for the Raiders is assured.

A big test to kick off 2020 for us.

[JunctionBlock]

I guess our chances are on the up with Curtis Scott and his little incident. Tigers officially signed Leilua and Rapana, from memory, was off to Japanese Rugby. Hopefully leaves the Raiders a little short handed for our game.

[Bayside Titan]

I guess our chances are on the up with Curtis Scott and his little incident. Tigers officially signed Leilua and Rapana, from memory, was off to Japanese Rugby. Hopefully leaves the Raiders a little short handed for our game.

Yeah it will be interesting. They have a few good young guys that could stand up. But you would think that side of the play will be be a little weaker.

[SCoast Titan]

I know it’s a bit early but my team for Round 1 is:

1. Brimson
2. Sami
3. Peachey
4. Kelly
5. Pearson
6. Taylor
7. T. Boyd
8. Fotuiaka
9. Peats
10. Wallace
11. Proctor
12. Cartwright
13. Arrow
14. Rein
15. Whitbread
16. Farmer
17. S. Boyd

[Upthetits]

I know it’s a bit early but my team for Round 1 is:

1. Brimson
2. Sami
3. Peachey
4. Kelly
5. Pearson
6. Taylor
7. T. Boyd
8. Fotuiaka
9. Peats
10. Wallace
11. Proctor
12. Cartwright
13. Arrow
14. Rein
15. Whitbread
16. Farmer
17. S. Boyd

Nice lineup!

[Dooldog76]

I just want the boys to compete.

[Upthetits]

John Bateman is out for the first 6 weeks

[willhelm]

I want to see Peachey play 40-50 mins in a ball playing lock role with Arrow shifting to prop. From what I saw of Peach at the 9s, I think he offers too much creativity to be stuck at centre. That means Watkins comes in at centre, Rein drops off the bench and Peats plays 80 as a tackle bot. I’m not opposed to SCT’s lineup though.

[NZFan]

I want to see Peachey play 40-50 mins in a ball playing lock role with Arrow shifting to prop. From what I saw of Peach at the 9s, I think he offers too much creativity to be stuck at centre. That means Watkins comes in at centre, Rein drops off the bench and Peats plays 80 as a tackle bot. I’m not opposed to SCT’s lineup though.

That would be my preference too. And if Peachey was to play that role I’d have Hipgrave in over Whitbread to provide more impact

[JunctionBlock]

1. Brimson
2. Sami
3. Copley (till he breaks)
4. Kelly
5. Pearson/GL
6. Taylor
7. T. Boyd
8. Arrow
9. Peats
10. Wallace
11. Proctor
12. Cartwright
13. Whitbread
14. Peachey
15. MoFo
16. Farmer
17. S. Boyd

It's actually hard to come up with a team that is well balanced and we are talking about round 1.

[willhelm]

That would be my preference too. And if Peachey was to play that role I’d have Hipgrave in over Whitbread to provide more impact

I would keep Whitbread in over Hipgrave. I see Whitbread as a future leader of our pack and Hipgrave as a future admin assistant.

[DIEHARD]

Considering this is an away game, anyone wanna catch up to watch the game together?

I'll be back in Oz.

[Titanic]

Love your team JB and I would vote for it ... the only issue is Crystal Copley and Kelly are left centres but I'm a fan of both and not much else. Kelly/Copley on the left and Watkins (you've got to think he's got something more than he showed us last season)/Sami or Pearson on the right ... sorry the Donster but your misreads in defence and little skips at the line puts you out.

[JunctionBlock]

Some insight into our round 1 line up.

Titans face tense wait on Boyd, Brimson for Raiders clash
Author
Joel Gould
NRL.com Reporter
Timestamp
Tue 3 Mar 2020, 10:01 AM
Joel Gould

Gold Coast are sweating on the fitness of giant prop Shannon Boyd for round one and he's not Justin Holbrook's only injury concern.

The Titans coach said he would know more later in the week about the availability of Boyd (shoulder), AJ Brimson (back) and Moeaki Fotuaika (wrist and knee) for trip to Canberra next Friday.


Boyd is determined to get himself fit to play his former club after losing seven kilos in the off-season leading into what looms as a critical year for the former Test forward.

The 27-year-old behemoth had a shoulder operation last year and in a cruel blow reinjured it in the Titans' first trial.

"I am worried because you want everyone fit. We don't want to start round one with a few guys out," Holbrook said.

"I got [Boyd] some game time against Burleigh but he aggravated his shoulder a bit. If it settles down a bit he will play round one, but I'm not too sure yet.

"We've just got to get his match fitness up as quick as we can. He is trying really hard. He's lost a lot of weight and when he is fit he will be a big part of our team.


"He is a real enforcer and I expect him to play that part for us."

Holbrook said the Titans took a lot of confidence out of the 28-22 comeback win over the Broncos in the trial at Redcliffe on Saturday night where former Warriors prop Sam Lisone impressed with his leg speed and his charges into the line.

"He is really important for us after losing Ryan James for the year. Sam's come over and I thought he was terrific for us on the weekend," Holbrook said.

"It is exactly what we need, that point of difference, and he'll slot in nicely."

Brimson will play fullback against Canberra if available despite Phillip Sami performing well in the No.1 jersey against Brisbane.

"[AJ] has got a sore back so we backed off his workload to get him right for round one," Holbrook said.


"I am hoping it settles down this week and we can ramp him up next week.

"Phil was great for us but AJ has been fantastic in the pre-season. The last few weeks we've had him in rehab but hopefully if he is right then he will play."

Sami will play on one wing against Canberra and Holbrook said Anthony Don and Jonus Pearson would battle it out for the other spot on the flank.

Mitch Rein has all but wrapped up the starting hooker's role after a stellar pre-season, which he continued against the Broncos.


"Obviously there's him and Peatsy [Nathan Peats] and Erin Clark knocking on the door too," Holbrook said.

"They are all good hookers and bring different things but I think Mitch, the way he has trained and played, is just in front."

The way the Titans played in the NRL Nines and in the trial win over Brisbane has heartened Holbrook.

"We just want to make sure we compete every weekend. I know it was only a trial but we got ourselves in a tough spot last week and fought our way out of it," he said.

"That is the sort of side I want us to be and that our fans want to come and watch."

[DIEHARD]

I appreciate Holbrook being honest, I found his quotes worth reading.

[Sunny86]

Curtis Scott Gree to play for raiders

[willhelm]

I'm so unbelievably excited for this season to start. I'm optimistic that we will show some serious signs of improvement this year. I really think Brennan was a dud coach and our squad is much better than a 4-21 last place finish. Can't wait to see what Triple J (Justin, Jim & Jim) have done with our boys.

[Titanic]

FOUR (4) YES THAT’S ONLY FOUR MORE SLEEPS TO GO ...

[Dooldog76]

Team list Tuesday tomorrow. Yeeeewwww.

[Croc]

Can’t wait for this team list.. apparently brimson and s Boyd are not available this week.. so I’m guessing Sami to full back

[DIEHARD]

NRL.com Preview - Raiders v Titans: Curtis cleared; Coast trio racing clock
Troy Whittaker - NRL.com

While Canberra came so close to completing a fairytale run last year, the Gold Coast lived out a nightmare.

But the slate is now clean again for both sides, with the Raiders dealing with added expectations and the Titans full of renewed hope.

Despite reaching the grand final, Canberra weren't that dominant at home with only five wins at GIO Stadium in 2019.

Meanwhile, wooden spooners the Gold Coast won just four matches all season and claiming a big scalp on the road to kick-off 2020 would be a huge confidence boost.

Raiders: Curtis Scott, who is facing several police charges, has been given permission to play by the NRL. Ex-Super League star George Williams will make his NRL debut at halfback but two other Englishmen are sidelined. Test second-rower John Bateman (shoulder) isn't expected back until at least round six, while prop Ryan Sutton copped a one-match ban for a shoulder charge in the final trial against Parramatta. Hudson Young is suspended until round six due to an eye-gouging incident last year.

Titans: AJ Brimson (back), Moeaki Fotuaika (knee) and Shannon Boyd (shoulder) are in doubt but the trio are confident they'll be fit. Firebrand forward Keegan Hipgrave's immediate future is clouded as he works to come back from three concussions last year. Ryan James suffered another season-ending ACL injury in January.

Key match-up
George Williams v Ash Taylor. An English with a point to prove up against still-young playmaker who also has a point to prove. This season will see very move of both men watched closely.

For the Raiders to win
Like last season, defence is the key for Canberra. An average of 15.8 conceded points per game laid the foundations for their success. With a new playmaker in George Williams, the Raiders will need time for new combinations to gel, making their work without the ball paramount.

For the Titans to win
The dynamic likes of Ash Taylor and AJ Brimson (if fit) are critical to the cause. The Titans looked good throwing the ball around at the NRL Nines and some slick attacking footy could shock Canberra. And to state the obvious, the Gold Coast will have to show more resolve when the going gets tough.

Brett Kimmorley says
I think Canberra are probably the easiest winners to pick this week. They'll be motivated after losing last year's grand final and they got the good news that Curtis Scott is able to play. The Titans should be better than 2019, and I like new coach Justin Holbrook, but I'm not sure they have the talent to match the top teams. Raiders by 10.

Stat Attack
The Raiders are looking for a new designated field goal exponent after Aidan Sezer left for the UK. Sezer and James Maloney led the NRL with four field goals apiece last season. Canberra fullback Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad topped the NRL in kick return metres (1786).

And another thing ...
If the Gold Coast are looking for an omen they need search no further than the opening round of 2018 when they came back from 18-0 down after 13 minutes to beat the Raiders 30-28 at Cbus Super Stadium. The equal biggest comeback in Titans history was iced by a Konrad Hurrell try in the 77th minute.

[timor 2]

Titans: 1. Phillip Sami 2. Anthony Don 3. Kallum Watkins 4. Tyrone Peachey 5. Dale Copley 6. Tyrone Roberts 7. Ash Taylor 8. Jarrod Wallace 9. Mitch Rein 10. Sam Lisone 11. Kevin Proctor 12. Bryce Cartwright 13. Jai Arrow 14. Nathan Peats 15. Jai Whitbread 16. Brian Kelly 17. Jaimin Jolliffe 18. Sam Stone 19. Jonus Pearson 20. Moeaki Fotuaika 21. Alexander Brimson

[BundyTitan]

Lineup Round 1
1. Sami
2. Don
3. Watkins
4. Peachey
5. Copley
6. Roberts
7. Taylor
8. Wallace
9. Rein
10. Lisone
11. Proctor
12. Cartwright
13. Arrow

14. Peats
15. Whitbread
16. Kelly
17. Joliffe

18. Pearson
19. Brimson
20. Fotuaika

Few surprises/shocks in there. Kelly on the bench...

[Titanic]

Joliffe is on a development contract isn’t he? Must have got dispensation but happy to see him there though. Horrible to see Peats and Don. Won’t whinge too much though, new coach, new attitude and no expectations except have a dig.

[Hail Sezer]

Kelly does struggle to stick when he’s defending but am surprised he didn’t get the nod. How good is it to see Joliffe roll into the 17.

Happy to trust the coaching staff, they see a lot more of the players than we do.

Interesting that SBoyd is omitted due to injury but Mo & AJ are on an extended bench. Could they still be a chance?

[Croc]

Not sure I like that line up.. not rating peats much, kelly on the bench and peachy in the centre? Wtf? Peachy couldn’t play centre last year at all, everything went through him! Pearson should be on for Copley, dont rate Copley that much.. I like jollife on the bench.. not sure how this is all going to work but we shall see

[Mr Bods]

Let’s bloody well hope the Coach is playing a mind game and Mo/AJ are late inclusions.

And SBoyd-what an all time lemon of a recruit

Club says they are confident AJ/Mo/SBoyd will be fit for round 1.
What’s their score 0/3.
Sounds like a return to Condon days when we couldn’t get players fit at the same rate as other clubs.

[TitanPremiership]

Croc expressed my thoughts perfectly regarding Peachey in the centres and Kelly on the bench. Peachey did impress me more than Kelly in the trial so happy to see him get another crack. Would be surprised if Don kept his spot once AJ returns with Sami heading back to the wing so no problems there. In contrast to most, I'm happy to see Peats get at least a game to prove himself as we looked a much better team with him a couple years ago. End of the day, coaches would've seen a lot more of the players so will be good to see how they go.

[JunctionBlock]

Gotta take the good with the bad in that line up. Would have had the peach at fullback over Sami. Kelly where he should be. Don dropped, Sami on the wing.

Now it looks like there will be major reshuffles during the game to fit utilities in certain rest spots. This is a proven failure of a formula. Not going to sugar coat it but that team as named is a disaster.

[Mr Bods]

Gotta take the good with the bad in that line up. Would have had the peach at fullback over Sami. Kelly where he should be. Don dropped, Sami on the wing.

Now it looks like there will be major reshuffles during the game to fit utilities in certain rest spots. This is a proven failure of a formula. Not going to sugar coat it but that team as named is a disaster.

As I’ve said numerous times if I see at some point Reins at Hooker and Peats at lock I may just internally combust never to be seen again

[JunctionBlock]

Tino off the bench for Melbourne. Looks like we get a preview of what we are getting.

[willhelm]

Not gonna prejudge. Will wait and see how we go.

[Titanic]

I think if AJ is right then Sami to the wing, Copley to left centre, Peachey to the bench and Peats goneski and if MoFo is also right then Joliffe is goneski too. I think Don is safe for this week because he's the specialist right wing and only Pearson is challenging him for that.

[Titslover]

Titanic how come you think Copley would go to centre instead of Kelly? He had one missed tackle at the start of the Broncos trial, surely thats not enough to warrant him being out of the 17

[Titanic]

Titanic how come you think Copley would go to centre instead of Kelly? He had one missed tackle at the start of the Broncos trial, surely thats not enough to warrant him being out of the 17 I like Kelly and only made that comment because I think Don holds his place ... Don would be the first gone if it was my choice and I would like Sami/Kelly and Copley/Pearson or even GL on the right. I'm not anti-Watkins but he's on thin ice, for mine. I like Peachey too but he's the perfect big minutes 14, imho.

[Dooldog76]

Gee, I wasn't expecting this. I'm not as excited as I was, but will see how they go. I'm expecting last minute changes.

[TITAN PETE]

AJ & Mo are no chance, Peats is our no14 to cover the backrow & 9 if desperate, Kelly has been far from impressive in the preseason & is lucky to get a bench spot , Peachy is a centre & knows his roll & what’s expected he will not be playing 6 unless we are in a desperate injury situation (Fogarty will be Roberts nemeses in June)

[Titanitis]

Surprised that Pearson didn't get a shout, particularly with Sami at FB. Thought he stood out this pre-season. Hopefully we can go well round 1.

[Mr Bods]

Win Friday without Mo/AJ and Sami at FB in Canberra then all the damage of appointing Brennan and the Annesley ATaylor and others salary cap disasters has been wiped away by Holbrook/Dymock/Lenihan/Meninga in just one off season.

[DIEHARD]

LeagueUnlimited Raiders v Titans preview
https://leagueunlimited.com/news/34455-raiders-v-titans-preview/

[JunctionBlock]

Win Friday without Mo/AJ and Sami at FB in Canberra then all the damage of appointing Brennan and the Annesley ATaylor and others salary cap disasters has been wiped away by Holbrook/Dymock/Lenihan/Meninga in just one off season.

Make sure you have a full scotch bottle for Friday Bods.

[Titanic]

Friday will test Bodsie’s “no pressure on the coach” philosophy ... can’t wait myself on many levels. At least I can blame the virus.

[Titanic]

Apologies ... double post

[DIEHARD]

Holbrook gives enigmatic Titans licence to skill
http://www.nrl.com

Gold Coast coach Justin Holbrook has given the Titans a licence to skill in 2020 as he looks to bring out the best attacking talents of some of the NRL’s most talented yet maligned players.

The Titans were ranked 15th in the NRL for points scored last season but Holbrook has spent the entire summer conducting “mini-skills” sessions with players to ensure they have the confidence and ability to play to their strengths.

With a team boasting mercurial talents like Ashley Taylor, Tyrone Peachey and Bryce Cartwright, Holbrook knows the best way to achieve scoring success is to allow those dangerous players to enjoy a freedom few coaches accept in the days of structured rugby league.

Those three Titans in particular have a proven ability to be gamebreakers on their day but have come under fierce criticism in recent years for not delivering such performances on a consistent basis.

Holbrook will demand his team stick to their defensive structures, but when they have the ball in hand he is willing to take the good with the bad in order to get the best result for his team.

“I think you’ve got to have a structure to know what to do but I want them to have the freedom to play,” Holbrook said.

“I think we’ve got such a skilful side here and we showed some of that in the Nines and we showed it against Brisbane and I don’t want to cap the guys from playing.

“I think that is where you’ve got the variables that can happen when you’ve got the ball.

“I think defensively you can’t (move away from structure), you’ve got to know what you’re doing there and work really hard in that area, but in terms of attack we’ve got some real strike there and we want them to play.”

Holbrook expected his team to embrace their underdog status in 2020, even if there is a strong belief in the squad that their four-win season last year was not a true reflection of their ability.

“Obviously where we finished last year we will be underdogs so it doesn’t worry me,” he said.

“I don’t care if we’re favourites or not favourites, it’s about playing well on the day. That’s all we worry about.

“I think we’re equal with everyone in the competition, I think all 16 teams have shown that.

“We’ve seen some lopsided seasons. Parramatta a couple of years ago struggled then they jump out of the box last year."

The Titans will line up as named when they face Canberra on Friday night, with prop Moeaki Fotuaika a chance to return next week while fullback AJ Brimson could miss several more weeks with a stress fracture in his back.

“I’m probably more frustrated than AJ. We can’t help it. It’s just one of those things... you can’t keep pushing him because it makes it worse,” Holbrook said.

“We just have to keep trying to let it settle as quick as it can then get him out there when we can.

“Some days it’s really good and other days it’s not. It’s hard to play a game of rugby league if you’ve got a sore back so it’s not ideal that’s for sure."

[DIEHARD]

Five Things To Watch
http://www.titans.com.au

Titans Head Coach Justin Holbrook discusses five hot topics ahead of tomorrow night’s season-opening clash with the Canberra Raiders at GIO Stadium.

1. The battle for the No.9 jersey between Mitch Rein and Nathan Peats

I think they are both very good players with different strengths, but Mitch has just got his nose in front there I guess. He has been terrific for us all pre-season. He is a great little competitor, as is Peatsy. There wasn’t much in it (between the two), but (Rein) got the start.

2. Injury update on AJ Brimson and Moeaki Fotuaika

(Brimson’s injury) is a tricky one. We just have to get his back to settle. Some days it is really good, and others days it’s not. It is a hard game to play, rugby league, if you’ve got a sore back.

It is not ideal that’s for sure. He is a great player, I think he is a real livewire – and one of the best players in the NRL I think he will be. But we just can’t get him on the field. I don’t know a timeframe yet.

I think (he is frustrated). I am probably more frustrated than him. We can’t help it.

It is hard because you can’t keep pushing him, because it makes it worse. So we have got to try to let it settle as quick as it can and then we will get him out there when we can.

I don’t think (it will be months). I hope not! It should only be a couple of weeks probably.

(Fotuaika) is a good chance (of playing next week). He has been training great with us and probably could have played this weekend.

But he hasn’t had a great pre-season, so we are giving him another week. He is a good chance next week.

3. What he’s expecting from the Raiders

They had a great year last year, they nearly won the competition. We are expecting a tough game, that is for sure.

I am not expecting them to play too differently when they have had success like that.

They do have a number of changes, which I think is good for us. It is a good time to get the opportunity to play them down there.

They are still a very dangerous side. (Josh) Hodgson and Jack Wighton are two fantastic players, and they have a big forward pack.

So even though they have had a few changes, the guys they have brought in are good as well. We know it is going to be a tough game.

4. Embracing the underdog tag

We have no choice, have we? Where we finished (in 2019), we are obviously going to be underdogs.

It doesn’t worry me. I don’t care if we are favourites, if we’re not favourites. It is about playing well on the day, and that is all I worry about

5. The Titans’ style of play – natural game vs structure

I think both is important. You have got to have a structure to know what to do, but then I want them to have the freedom to play.

We have such a skilful side here. We showed some of that in the Nines, and we showed it against Brisbane. I don’t want to cap the guys from playing.

You’ve got the variables you can apply when you have the ball. Defensively you can’t – you have to know what you are doing there. We have worked really hard in that area.

But in terms of attack, we have some real strike there, and I want them to play.

[Mr Bods]

Make sure you have a full scotch bottle for Friday Bods.

I actually do have an unopened bottle JB. Post win GC Scotch’s are a beautiful thing

[Croc]

It’s game day! Can’t wait to see how we go.. also interested to see how the league responds to this coronavirus stuff.. if they are going to suspend it or not

[Mr Bods]

It’s game day! Can’t wait to see how we go.. also interested to see how the league responds to this coronavirus stuff.. if they are going to suspend it or not

Yeah. Things are changing very rapidly. We gotta have our sports though. NBA/NHL two sports down already that I follow pretty closely especially NBA. Depressing.

[Canon]

Yeah. Things are changing very rapidly. We gotta have our sports though. NBA/NHL two sports down already that I follow pretty closely especially NBA. Depressing.

Australian Grand Prix now cancelled too. First major cancellation here...

[Bayside Titan]

Game day boys and girls. Hard not to be excited.

[Canon]

No spectators at the ODI today too... Will there be a Viking Clap tonight?

[Croc]

Yeh, I wonder if they will call of the season or just play to empty stadiums.. will impact the clubs greatly financially

[JunctionBlock]

I wonder whether the NRL will try and sneak through this round before the government shuts the stadiums. Interesting to see what will happen with season ticket holders etc.

[DIEHARD]

It'd be a damn shame to see crowds shut out. But if it is necessary, I support it. Hopefully, at worst we will see games played in closed stadiums so the footy can continue.

If you are headed to the footy yourself. I recommend wearing a mask. I credit that and the use of hand sanitizer and the SARS experience in reasons why Hong Kong has so far kept things under control.

[Titanic]

Wearing Titans-themed masks should become our club persona and we could adapt the lyrics of Monster Mash or Time Warp to become our much awaited club anthem.

“let’s do the Titans walk again ... it’s just a jump to the left .... “

[JunctionBlock]

It'd be a damn shame to see crowds shut out. But if it is necessary, I support it. Hopefully, at worst we will see games played in closed stadiums so the footy can continue.

If you are headed to the footy yourself. I recommend wearing a mask. I credit that and the use of hand sanitizer and the SARS experience in reasons why Hong Kong has so far kept things under control.

The only issue I see with wearing masks and using hand sanitiser is that you can't buy P2 masks and hand sanitser.

[Sunny86]

Can’t see footy going on after this weekend

[Titanic]

If we win by the biggest margin then we’re premiers

[Whats Doing]

Either our 1st home game will be cancelled or played without any spectators

[Hail Sezer]

17 is as named.

Kelly on the bench to cover for Copley’s inevitable injury

[Titslover]

Pretty disappointed that Kelly and Peachey weren’t swapped around. And when did Copley jump Pearson in the pecking order? I thought for sure he would be on the wing in round 1 even if AJ was playing

[Toads]

Ennis getting Mal's opinion about Raiders season ahead. Way to go FoxSports..

[lonegull]

Ennis getting Mal's opinion about Raiders season ahead. Way to go FoxSports..

Ennis is also an assistant coach at the raiders shouldn’t be near the microphone on Canberra games all he gives is a one eye view

[Dooldog76]

Here we go!!!

[willhelm]

Wallace lol

[gotitans101_]

Great defence there

[JunctionBlock]

Right about now I’m hoping the NRL season is abandoned due to the pandemic.

[Titanic]

Pretty soft soft soft

[gotitans101_]

Wallace just plodding up the field as usual

[JunctionBlock]

After watching the kicker get worked over last night and nothing called we amazingly get pinged for that. Nothing’s changed.

[gotitans101_]

Taylor 2 missed tackles 2 tries

more bs over the offseason just telling us all what we want to hear.

[Titanic]

Soft softer softest

[Dooldog76]

Ash taylor.....

[lonegull]

17 minutes in and Cartwright hasn’t had a hit up and he is a starting second rower
Don’t even get me started on Wallace in that time

[DIEHARD]

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[Toads]

Looking for a out already?

[Titanic]

We look likely but Don looks decrepit.

[lonegull]

We look likely but Don looks decrepit.
You only have to look at what the Canberra wingers a bringing compared to what don and Copley have dished up its like chalk and cheese

[JunctionBlock]

So we put a bomb up and it’s a prop challenging for it. I’m very disappointed. Someone convince me this team including off field staff is any better than last years rabble.

[ozynorts]

Taylor’s shoulder is gone.

[lonegull]

Kids against men

[Dooldog76]

When are we ever going to learn?

[lonegull]

When are we ever going to learn?

Yep couldn’t agree more

[ozynorts]

Cartwright is the greatest conman I’ve ever seen. How he is able to convince multiple coaches that he is worth playing is beyond me.

[gotitans101_]

And the amount of vitriol I copped on here for dare being the one to remain pessimistic about this team. We look no different to the last 3 years.

[lonegull]

Have a look at the raiders structure in attack the players they have in motion and their setups compared to what we offering same old one out stuff geez I thought their was hope

[JunctionBlock]

This is good. Canberra have stopped showing us respect as a team. Hopefully we can do a 180 in the second half.

[ozynorts]

Roberts is the first choice general play kicker? Where the funk is the million dollar man.

[gotitans101_]

what a ****ing terrible half of football by the Titans

[JunctionBlock]

Roberts is the first choice general play kicker? Where the funk is the million dollar man.

Hasn’t wanted to take the 5th tackle kick all day. Not smiling anymore. Shoulder hurts. Wonder how long a holiday he’ll take this year.

[lonegull]

what a ****ing terrible half of football by the Titans

Agree looked disinterested and one thing look very disorganised no structure what so ever

[Whats Doing]

Can someone remind me why Roberts and Taylor are not in ISC. Both have been putrid.

[gotitans101_]

Hasn’t wanted to take the 5th tackle kick all day. Not smiling anymore. Shoulder hurts. Wonder how long a holiday he’ll take this year.

everyone was talking him up after the trials hahaha

[ozynorts]

Can he take a medical retirement for mental health?

[gotitans101_]

I'd bring Fogarty straight into the side honestly.

[Dooldog76]

Ok so we are a bit rusty

[JunctionBlock]

everyone was talking him up after the trials hahaha

Because he looked interested and fit. Still couldn’t come up with a 5th tackle play though and hasn’t been taught one. So far the team we have put on the field is subpar.

[shamus]

We got this..







I keep saying that after every first 40 minutes... one day I am gunna say .....I told you so..

[Titanic]

Insipid performance but I’m hopeful that the marginalized selections have now exposed themselves. Won’t comment specifically until full time but it’s been painfully enlightening so far. Liked Watkins, Lisone, Arrow, Whitbread and Jolliffe.

[shamus]

In our defence (bahahahaha) not many teams would be leading Canberra at half time.

[NZFan]

If Holbrook doesn't make mass changes to this team he is going to head the same way as Brennan. Roberts and Don would not make the top 25 in any other roster yet the are untouchable in ours. Copley and Wallace aren't much better. They have all had two or three years to prove themselves and have failed. Time to move on.

I think Ash is going to have another year like last and it will be his last for good. Doesn't wanna take the long on and carrying his arm like he's injured. His confidence isn't there.

So disappointing.

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You only have to look at what the Canberra wingers a bringing compared to what don and Copley have dished up its like chalk and cheese

Time for GL and Pearson. We need a fresh start. Sami, Copley and Don and jink before the same and achieve the same result - Nothing. Gl's carrys out of our half in the 20min he got in the trial were so much better.

[gotitans101_]

Whitbread is just Wallace 2.0 for me. Don't get what people see in him.

[ozynorts]

Don is decrepit

[JunctionBlock]

If Holbrook doesn't make mass changes to this team he is going to head the same way as Brennan. Roberts and Don would not make the top 25 in any other roster yet the are untouchable in ours. Copley and Wallace aren't much better. They have all had two or three years to prove themselves and have failed. Time to move on.

I think Ash is going to have another year like last and it will be his last for good. Doesn't wanna take the long on and carrying his arm like he's injured. His confidence isn't there.

So disappointing.

Holbrook chose this team to take the field. Direct quotes from him reveals certain players will always be on the field. I think 99% of the forum picked a better one team for this week. Not off to a good start to endear himself to me.

[Titanic]

Don is woefully out classed

[JunctionBlock]

Hahaha and our worst player crosses the try line.

[lonegull]

One switch and we look a totally different side with Peachey in the middle

[Titanic]

See what I mean :-)

[ozynorts]

And then he scores a try just to score another few weeks in the team

[Gary E]

Never Posted before, I enjoy this forum and I'm as passionate about the titans as anyone else on here (just ask the people who sit near me at the ground) but come on. We were bottom last year and have made no significant changes to the squad, what do you all expect?
But just go back to the first couple of pages on here for the Broncos trial game and have a read of what everyone was saying, then go to the last few pages.
It's an 80 minutes game and a lot can happen. I'm not saying we're going to turn this around, but keep some faith. (I know it's hard, believe me!!)
Anyway, hi everyone ��️

[ozynorts]

Welcome Gary.
I don’t get the Sami hate, he is busting his butt off out there.

[gotitans101_]

does Proctor....actually do anything?

[lonegull]

Joliffe effort their in that defensive set shows the difference between a bloke who gives his all compare that to Wallace effort actually Wallace didn’t give an effort

[C-Whiz]

The only thing uglier than the Titans first half is that red-headed Raiders stepchild Horsburgh's shocking haircut.

[ozynorts]

Man we need a new dummy half. Neither of these two are really good enough.

[gotitans101_]

Sick and tired of rocks & diamonds Cartwright.

[JunctionBlock]

Sick and tired of rocks & diamonds Cartwright.

But geez he looked good in the trials. Hahahaha

[gotitans101_]

But geez he looked good in the trials. Hahahaha

did I say that?

[ozynorts]

Rein again, really.

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Sick and tired of rocks & diamonds Cartwright.

Hahahhaaaa when did we get diamonds from him????

[JunctionBlock]

did I say that?

No idea. Highly doubt it.

[gotitans101_]

turned it off. Going to be another long season.

[lonegull]

Gee opposition coaches will love the right side Wallace Cartwright and Taylor defending together, Stuart has already showcased it tonight

[Titanic]

Wallace responsible for 2 tries so far ... he is more stupid than Hendololol

[C-Whiz]

In the past decade I don't know if there will be a player I will be happier to see the back end of as Bryce Cartwright. He is just so frustrating to watch.

[ozynorts]

Cooper Cronk calling out Taylor’s lack of effort in defence. Him and Cartwright defending next to each other is going to give up a lot of points this year.

[JunctionBlock]

Gee opposition coaches will love the right side Wallace Cartwright and Taylor defending together, Stuart has already showcased it tonight

So logic dictates that Cartwright can’t defend on the left or right so he should be shown the door. Wallace has shown that his form from last year had nothing to do with his family issues. Shown the door. Taylor needs to be put on notice and then shown the door.

What will next weeks team list look like do you think?

[Titanic Believer]

Reality Check!!!

[ozynorts]

3 forward passes from Rein now.

[C-Whiz]

FFS, we look like a team that's only spent a week training together. NFI what they are trying to do out there.

[JunctionBlock]

FFS, we look like a team that's only spent a week training together. NFI what they are trying to do out there.

Thinking the same thing. We have gone two years without developing a plan on what to do in an attacking set.

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We haven’t used our captains challenge and we let that slide.

[gotitans101_]

I think we've lacked a bit of spark too. The loss of AJ and still Mo really hurts. I'd inject Fogarty into the lineup in the coming weeks for Taylor or Roberts. This current halves combo cannot continue.

[Jonno12]

Here watching from the sideline, they have looked like a reserve grade team for the majority of the game. Watkins, Don and Roberts are not NRL quality and Taylor’s defence is below reserve grade. In my opinion can’t have Taylor and Roberts both in the team because neither of them will step up. Whole side hasn’t looked urgent or motivated off the ball other than Sami and Jolliffe while he was on.

[JunctionBlock]

I think we've lacked a bit of spark too. The loss of AJ and still Mo really hurts. I'd inject Fogarty into the lineup in the coming weeks for Taylor or Roberts. This current halves combo cannot continue.

I think people on the forum have previously said that Fogarty can’t play till June

[ozynorts]

Thinking the same thing. We have gone two years without developing a plan on what to do in an attacking set.

I’m not convinced it’s a coaching issue, I don’t think the players we have are up to it under pressure. Taylor, Cartwright, Rein, Roberts and Peachey don’t appear to be thinkers on the field. They are either robotic or off the cuff, no thought to pressure and possession.

[TitansState]

I think we've lacked a bit of spark too. The loss of AJ and still Mo really hurts. I'd inject Fogarty into the lineup in the coming weeks for Taylor or Roberts. This current halves combo cannot continue.

Our experienced players are that useless we're having to rely on our two youngest players to come back and carry this team.

[gotitans101_]

I think people on the forum have previously said that Fogarty can’t play till June

ah really? Well we're ****ed then.

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Our experienced players are that useless we're having to rely on our two youngest players to come back and carry this team.

yeah pretty much. The likes of Wallace and Proctor offer nothing to this team. How Proctor was selected as our captain is still beyond me.

[Croc]

Please please drop roberts!! He didn’t look good in the trials or this game! Let’s get some youth in! Sami has looked great out there! We have looked no different to last year!! Sick of this talk up from the club about pre season! We really looked the same as we finished last year

[gotitans101_]

Tyrone Roberts scored a total of 2 points in 80 minutes on Supercoach tonight. What a player.

[Dooldog76]

I'm not crying a river. The error count crippled us. Don and Roberts need to be dropped. Cartwright was just trying too hard. He will settle. Peachy for six, and Kelly at centre. We didn't give up and we will look a lot better when an and mofo return.

[Mexican titan]

So logic dictates that Cartwright can’t defend on the left or right so he should be shown the door. Wallace has shown that his form from last year had nothing to do with his family issues. Shown the door. Taylor needs to be put on notice and then shown the door.



Agree with all of that, and add Rein who was terrible tonight. We just cannot have blokes like him that just kill any pressure by dumb errors. That lot can take Peats, Watkins, Roberts with them. Yet again Rein and Peats on the field at the same time - that's one huge black mark on the new coach in my book. Just dumb. Sami looked good as a FB and was probably better than AJ was last year.
I'm grateful to be locked out of next weeks game.

[Dooldog76]

Agree. Sami was lethal tonight.

[Toads]

Can only hope Holbrook played the usual squad to see what the hell he's got to work with. Good luck, JH.

[JunctionBlock]

I’m not convinced it’s a coaching issue, I don’t think the players we have are up to it under pressure. Taylor, Cartwright, Rein, Roberts and Peachey don’t appear to be thinkers on the field. They are either robotic or off the cuff, no thought to pressure and possession.

Totally agree. Players can’t keep hiding behind **** coaches. The problem is with them. My issue will be if Holbrook doesn’t swing the axe after that and has excuses to keep that team on the park then he’s part of the problem again too. If that teams only changes are players back from injury then he’s already lost my support to think he can change anything with this club.

[Mr Bods]

Referees haven’t changed their attitudes towards us. That could’ve been much closer. Forward pass city for them and we had everything marginal called.
They got tries off dodgy calls against us and we were only given junk time pens.
I feel quite justified after tonight in the lineup I wanted in earlier posts.
We had no injuries I think so we might be able to bolster the team next week a bit.
I think Holbrook has something to work with if we get a rub of the green and cut out those awful handling errors that Wallace, Roberts and Cartwright in particular frustrate us all with.

Beat Parramatta!!!!

[Hail Sezer]

Agree with comments re our 9/14 and halves. Well below par and not sure they’re going to get a whole lot better.

Not sure why Watkins cops so much on here. I thought he was great tonight.

Canberra really are a very good side and bar a few rusty errors, look to be picking up where they finished off.

[DIEHARD]

Well that was terrible to begin. Got better with an increase in speed and enthusiasm. But I'm struggling to pick my best players, easy to pick the ones that disappointed. Cartwright, was it Alexander who said that every time he gets the ball he thinks POINTS. I was nodding my head. Sami was my standout. Was shocked by the performance of a few players including Rein. I did think a few players getting hammered on here weren't as bad as that. I saw some nice glimpses from Watkins.

Great to see Gary E join us! It's always fun to have a lurker sign in and join the fun.

Great to see the great C Whiz here too.

Less silly errors, forward passes and less Carty-specials added with some speed and enthusiasm will help.

[DIEHARD]

Totally agree. Players can’t keep hiding behind **** coaches. The problem is with them. My issue will be if Holbrook doesn’t swing the axe after that and has excuses to keep that team on the park then he’s part of the problem again too. If that teams only changes are players back from injury then he’s already lost my support to think he can change anything with this club.

I totally agree with this. It is important to establish the competitive environment for places.

[shamus]

People keep calling for massive changes.... Who the **** is on the waiting list to step up?

[Gary E]

I never once mentioned fun!:)

[Mr Bods]

I never once mentioned fun!:)

Welcome Gary E. First post was good. Please stick around.

[ozynorts]

People keep calling for massive changes.... Who the **** is on the waiting list to step up?

We know what the lemons offer us so get rid of them and bring in the younger players and give them some experience.
Get rid of Roberts and replace him with T Boyd.
Don gone and replace with either GL or Pearson.
Cartwright gone and replace with anyone who is prepared to tackle. In fact I would like to see Arrow moved to the edge to stiffen up that side.
When AJ is back Sami to wing for Copley.

[JunctionBlock]

People keep calling for massive changes.... Who the **** is on the waiting list to step up?

I think the way that team lined up today was a farce. I think if Mo comes back it’s in place of Wallace. Kelly back into the starting squad. Jonus in don out. Peachey in the halfs or FB Roberts out T Boyd in. Rein or Peats. One or the other. Neither a shining light.

I think there are plenty of options.

[Gary E]

Welcome Gary E. First post was good. Please stick around.

Will do for sure. Thanks.

[Mr Bods]

Am I right in saying we escaped with no injuries??

[Jonno12]

We know what the lemons offer us so get rid of them and bring in the younger players and give them some experience.
Get rid of Roberts and replace him with T Boyd.
Don gone and replace with either GL or Pearson.
Cartwright gone and replace with anyone who is prepared to tackle. In fact I would like to see Arrow moved to the edge to stiffen up that side.
When AJ is back Sami to wing for Copley.

That’s perfect in my eyes

Start Mo and Lisone for now with Jolliffe and Wallace or Whitbread off the bench

[JunctionBlock]

Am I right in saying we escaped with no injuries??

Both half’s clutching at shoulders. Can only hope.

[Ausphin]

Righto, hopefully Holbrook has seen in 1 game what we have seen over last couple of seasons.

Time to make some bold calls and give some other guys a go. Players like Peats, Roberts and Don aren't the answer to any questions.

All players being fit and available, the 17 I would like to see is-

Brimson
Pearson
Watkins (thought he looked dangerous this week, admittedly poor on back of injury last season)
Kelly
Sami
Peachey
Taylor
Arrow
Proctor
Cartwright
Fotuaika
Boyd
Lisone

Clark
Copley / Leleisiuao
Wallace
Boyd (Shannon)

Whilst I think Tanah Boyd may deserve a crack in the halves I think he has the makings of a future origin hooker. I thought about Peachey at lock but worry about his defence in the middle. Would provide the option though to push Arrow up to starting prop.

The downside to Peachey at 6 is bulk of kicking responsibility would rest with Ash, but Boyd at hooker can provide a kicking option.

Have Copley or Leleisiuao on bench to cover for AJ if back flares up (obviously Sami back to fullback). Once AJ all good would like to see Hipgrave or Farmer given a shot.

[ozynorts]

I’m watching the cows and broncos and I am still amazed at how the Qld origin coach has such a lofty position in the game. He is apparently very knowledgeable and yet he comes across as clueless.

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Hey Ausphin, sorry but Cartwright should never be seen in our game day 17 ever again.

[gotitans101_]

cut some contracts and sign David Fifita for the love of fking god.

[Mr Bods]

Been trying to find the press conference but can’t locate it
Anyone seen it yet?

[Hail Sezer]

cut some contracts and sign David Fifita for the love of fking god.

Give him the Lolo godfather deal

[TITAN PETE]

I watched the game twice, 2nd time is easier without any emotions & I would suggest others try it because it’s round 1 & we played last year’s bridesmaids who will be very hard to beat again

Great game from Sammi & the Peach along with the rookie Jolliffe looked good too, Taylor wasn’t all bad except for his defensive decisions at times but I think there’s some obvious changes required
Mo starts
Boyd on the bench for our professional imposter in Wallace
Peach for Roberts
Kelly starts
Pearson for Don
Peats (looked hungrier) for Rein
Tanah for Peats on the bench he is our future no14

[BundyTitan]

Geez what a start to the year...

Can someone answer me why we spent the whole pre season (according to people that went to trainings) with Peachey training at 6 and Kelly at centre only to switch everything completely and throw the whole line up out?

I know the injuries hurt us too but changes have to be made next week. Peachey to 6, Kelly to left centre, Mo back with Lisone off the bench, Peats to 9, and maybe even Copley/Don out for Pearson. In Holbrook we trust but his first team list was worrying...

[Mr Bods]

Geez what a start to the year...

Can someone answer me why we spent the whole pre season (according to people that went to trainings) with Peachey training at 6 and Kelly at centre only to switch everything completely and throw the whole line up out?

I know the injuries hurt us too but changes have to be made next week. Peachey to 6, Kelly to left centre, Mo back with Lisone off the bench, Peats to 9, and maybe even Copley/Don out for Pearson. In Holbrook we trust but his first team list was worrying...

When I went to training in January Roberts was 5/8 and Peachey was training at Lock and later on at 2nd row. Kelly was training at Centre.

[SCoast Titan]

https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/sport/nrl/titans-press-conference/video/b7c8d3c81e25585b7b5653795fc58a6e

Found it on the gc bulletin page bods

[Mr Bods]

^^^^ thanks very much

[Titanic]

I’m very much with Pete on this performance ... I’m not shattered by any stretch except the residual bad taste from last season in some of the selections and the 40 minute long slow start. I doubt the coach will change much next week but I live in hope. Chill everybody and welcome Gary the big E

[MJF]

Hey Guys

I used to post here a bit in the last days of Cartwright, and have suffered in silence ever since. Just wanted to share my thoughts on Ash after last night.

On what he has shown last night and the last dozen or so first grade matches, he is simply not a NRL player and it all comes down to his unwillingness to get hit or even physical - he is contact shy and while he remains that way he will offer nothing.

Last night 90% of the time he played the ball between 4-6m behind the advantage line and shuffled sideways, at this level a half must run the ball to the line to give his runners any chance. Ash refuses to do it.

IMO he needs to go down a grade immediately to address this, I just can’t see how he will ever make that adjustment at this level and while he continues to play like this he is a passenger (not even factoring in defence) and the team will struggle.

[JunctionBlock]

Good to see a couple of new or returning posters to the forum. Welcome, whether you’re positive or negative, living in hope or dying in despair I hope you keep posting your thoughts.

[Menoitios]

Hard game to watch...but that is because the off season seemed long and I was wanting to see the team really fire.

I reckon the coach will take a lot from that game. He got to see with his own eyes how the players respond under pressure...in the heat of an actual NRL game, against a very good opposition. Now we get to see how the coach reacts!

The little trick shots (Ash passing to Carty for the kick etc) need to be binned for the time being. I know there was talk of how many attacking players we have in the side in the off season...but now isn't the time to try and score points flamboyantly.

What we need to do now is roll up our sleeves and put in the hard work...with enthusiasm and energy! Like Jolliffe and Liso. We all know points flow off the back of hard work.

Our defensive structures still need work... but that's on the players. You can train well all week, but if you lose faith in the bloke standing next to you in the defensive line in the actual game...it all unravels pretty quickly. (attack and defence)

Justin and the Jims have some work to do before Parra. And some decisions to make!

[NZFan]

Hey Guys

On what he has shown night the last dozen or so first grade matches, he is simply not a NRL player and it all comes down to his unwillingness to get hit or even physical - he is contact shy and why he remains that way he will offer nothing.



This is exactly how I felt after the first half, I thought he was gone for the season. To Ash's credit I think he looked I lot better in the second half. He showed his class with the pass out to Don to score and was also good in the lead up to Don dropping that sitter of a try.

The problem I have with Ash is he always looks to other people to do it for him. He probably has the highest ceiling out of all the players at the club if he is playing well, yet he's willing to just pass the ball on and take a beat seat. If I was the coach I'd be taking all of his handbrakes away, starting with Roberts, and make him steer the team around.

For me Roberts is the ultimate gift from Brennan that just keeps on giving. He was average at best at Newcastle and we bring him here and put him on a pedestal. He's never been dropped despite countless bad performances and to make things worst he's also injury prone. I don't understand why people can't see just how average he his.

I'b be bringing in Boyd to partner Ash and make Ash play first receiver. What I like about both of them is that they straighten the attack. When the first movement from a play maker is sideways then then whole defensive line can shift and bounce out, limiting any space that the outside backs have. I'd also drop Cartwright to the bench so Ash is forced to kick early in the game and get involved right from the first set.

My 17 for next week would be:

1. Sami
2. Pearson
3. Watkins
4. Kelly
5. GL
6. Boyd
7. Taylor
8. Lisone
9. Peats
10. Joliffe
11. Proctor
12. Farmer
13. Arrow

14. Peachey
15. Joliffe
16. Wallace
17. Cartwright

It's time to pull the changes and actually give the players that we have developed and brought here a crack. Why wait to round 10 until the season is over. Cartwright and Wallace (in particular) would also be on their last chances. We deserve better as fans than the same old slop every week.

A bit tough on Rein after his strong pre season but performances like that can't go unpunished.

[Dooldog76]

I know everyone is bagging Cartwright and you have an argument, but I think we should persist. Yes he made some dumb errors, but they were from trying too hard. He just needs to know when to take his chances and would be better off the bench as a strike weapon. The problem is we lack creativity from the halves and as a result peachey and Cartwright feel as though they have to create everything. His defence wasn't as bad as everyone is saying and Taylor needs to own some of that. I was more disappointed with rein and his service from dummy half. Forward passes on tackle 1, 10 metres out are inexcusable in my opinion. Crippled us a few times.

[JunctionBlock]

NZFan you’ve got Jolliffe in 10 and 15.

[NZFan]

True, was meant to say Boyd. Cheers

[C-Whiz]

Just wanted to share my thoughts on Ash after last night.

On what he has shown night the last dozen or so first grade matches, he is simply not a NRL player and it all comes down to his unwillingness to get hit or even physical - he is contact shy and why he remains that way he will offer nothing.

Last night 90% of the time he played the ball between 4-6m behind the advantage line and shuffled sideways, at this level a half must run the ball to the line to give his runners any chance. Ash refuses to do it.
100%. First it was a maturity issue, then it was a confidence issue, recently he "has more to play for" and he has been talking about personal pride, but I think it's just that he is contact shy and he wont grow out of that with time alone. Either he is forced to endure contact by the coach, or we will forever have a half playing well before the line and defensive opposition can read it miles away and kills any momentum.

[Dooldog76]

[QUOTE=C-Whiz;401890]100%. First it was a maturity issue, then it was a confidence issue, recently he "has more to play for" and he has been talking about personal pride, but I think it's just that he is contact shy and he wont grow out of that with time alone. Either he is forced to endure contact by the coach, or we will forever have a half playing well before the line and defensive opposition can read it miles away and kills any momentum.[/QUOTE
Remember when Taylor 10 metres out meant a lovely kick try assist? Running to the line and his short kicking game was unstoppable. Where has that gone? And why?

[Mr Bods]

There’s been no post game review by DB

[Titanic Believer]

Did I hear "we have to be better than that" in Holbrooks interview?

Sorry to bring it up, it brings back a year of bad memories.....

[DavidBouveng]

There’s been no post game review by DB

Hi Bods,

i would love to review, but was unable to watch it except for parts on my phone as i was away for a sports tournament in coffs harbour.

Might bring myself to watch it today or tomorrow, but feel its tough to judge against what is going to be a super solid Raiders team.

[Mr Bods]

Hi Bods,

i would love to review, but was unable to watch it except for parts on my phone as i was away for a sports tournament in coffs harbour.

Might bring myself to watch it today or tomorrow, but feel its tough to judge against what is going to be a super solid Raiders team.

Great to know you are out there and around DB

[Mr Bods]

Crawley just said on 360-“the two tries Wighton scored on the weekend Ash Taylor didn’t try to tackle him”.

Is this correct???

[NZFan]

Crawley just said on 360-“the two tries Wighton scored on the weekend Ash Taylor didn’t try to tackle him”.

Is this correct???

Nothing Crawley says is correct Bods. But they were poor efforts. You could also argue that Whitbread let them score as well since he made a legs tackle on our own goal line.

[Mexican titan]

Crawley just said on 360-“the two tries Wighton scored on the weekend Ash Taylor didn’t try to tackle him”.

Is this correct???

Well he put a hand on him but they were pathetic attempts at tackles. Nothing Taylor did against the Raiders indicated that his efforts of last year are behind him. His talk is cheap.

[willhelm]

Crawley just said on 360-“the two tries Wighton scored on the weekend Ash Taylor didn’t try to tackle him”.

Is this correct???

They were poor efforts, but he didn’t outright shy away like Carty a couple years back.