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DeeGan
28-09-05, 12:28 PM
2007 Titans: Goal-kicker needed, apply within

If you have no reliable goal kicker in the modern game, you are behind the eight ball before you step on to the field. Look no further than Brisbane who struggled all year with a miserable goal kicking % and then look at the two teams contesting the Grand Final on Sunday night, a stark contrast wouldn't you agree?

Josh Hannay is a very good goal kicker for the NQ Cowboys and Brett Hodgson in 2005 was arguably the best in the business perhaps taking the mantle from El Masri (albeit temporary) in the same process. At the moment we have signed Presto' though he is not IMO the answer for our club in 2007 in this department despite and improved showing in 2005.

Two questions for you:

1. What importance should John Cartwright put on the teams goal kicker in 2007?

2. If Preston Campbell is not the answer (if he is fine with you, don't answer), who should we be looking at as a possible future signing?

Cheers

DeeGan

PARANoIR
28-09-05, 12:29 PM
If they do actually come through and sign Paul Deacon, then there's your goal kicker, he's just as good of a goal kicker, if not better, than El Masri.

Dakink
28-09-05, 12:30 PM
How long is Ennis' contract with the Dragons?

Great goalkicker and decent player.

The Original Idiot
28-09-05, 12:33 PM
Inglis is a good kicker, but he is probably out of reach.

Super Cronk
28-09-05, 02:16 PM
Inglis is a good kicker, but he is probably out of reach.

inglis is with the storm untill 2008....unless he can take time off of the storm to come kick your goals i think its highly unlikely he will be kicking goals for the titans.

Now to the questions...I agree with your points deegan it is very important to have a good goal kicker, preferably one who is in the high 70%-80% range. The 2005 season was so close that 2 points could mean winning a game or losing a game or even mean missing out on the 8. As the attack and defence gets better kicking is extremely important.

If the titans dont sign a noted goal kicker capable of 70%-80% range then i think presto is the way to go he is good with the boot and will do the job untill another kicker can be brought to the club.

Shadow XL
28-09-05, 03:14 PM
I thik presto is a great kicker.

The importance of a goal kicker these days is huge, so i would be putting about a 80% importance on the goal kicker, but once again i belive presto is great for the job.

Dakink
28-09-05, 03:21 PM
What is Presto's rate?

Super Cronk
28-09-05, 03:25 PM
What is Presto's rate?

im not sure...this year year he kicked 73 goals...but im not sure how many he attempted

Dakink
28-09-05, 03:34 PM
Is it in this years Big League??

Super Cronk
28-09-05, 03:53 PM
Is it in this years Big League??

the last big league i got was in round 25 and his % then was 70%.

[BroncosGirl]
28-09-05, 04:03 PM
70% aint bad, if they can't get anyone else whos a decent enough kicker.

But yes goal kicking is very important ... as seen this year ...(and Lockyer was stupid enough to keep doing it when we had Seymour and Parker).

Teegy
28-09-05, 04:36 PM
Presto will keep getting better as this is his first full season with the kicking duties

ridgey
28-09-05, 04:43 PM
when does clinton schifcofske's contract with the raiders end,he could come back up north he kicks at 85% and is in my view 1 of the best fullbacks in the comp.

Teegy
28-09-05, 04:44 PM
He resigned earlier this year

ridgey
28-09-05, 04:51 PM
matthew head kicks at 86%,could be a half option too dragons would be mad to let him go though.

Teegy
28-09-05, 04:51 PM
Matty Head ain't going Nowhere.

ridgey
28-09-05, 04:56 PM
just get graham arnold up to help preston and he'll be kicking like brett hodgson in no time

Steelers
28-09-05, 07:51 PM
How long is Ennis' contract with the Dragons?

Great goalkicker and decent player.

Argh don't take another Dragon!

Inferno
28-09-05, 08:08 PM
You can have Luke Covell...

Seriously though, he's built like a 2nd rower and kicks at about %80

one thing Im noticing more and more these days which didn't really happen as much over the last few years is players running around to get closer the posts and improve the position of the kick. Therefore most kickers are kicking at a higher rate without really improving their accuracy.

Steelers
28-09-05, 08:12 PM
If they don't want to blow money on a specialist goal kicker, then preston will be fine in the possie.

Chaos
28-09-05, 08:23 PM
If they don't want to blow money on a specialist goal kicker, then preston will be fine in the possie.


I agree, goal kickers are too expensive...Preston is fine.
Odds are, you will find another kicker in the team without searching.
Surely one in ten league players can kick these days.

C-Dawg
28-09-05, 10:05 PM
I reckon Presto will be one of our biggest assets. But mainly with his on field ball control. Find another kicker i dont care who, so that he can concentrate on scoring and setting up tries.

Titanium_BD1103
28-09-05, 10:46 PM
I agree Presto is a good option... if not him then perhaps a youngster may come up and be a sensation, don't worry about a kicker at the moment, if you really want one, I reckon go for one of the ones from the P/L teams at the moment, they are all quite good... :D :D

The Dave
29-09-05, 05:23 PM
In Brian Carney's last game he kicked a touchline conversion, maybe he could be a back up for Preston if he is injured or off form.

smerk
29-09-05, 05:25 PM
If they do actually come through and sign Paul Deacon, then there's your goal kicker, he's just as good of a goal kicker, if not better, than El Masri.

Deacon would be a great signing. Great goal kicker.

Dakink
29-09-05, 05:26 PM
Jamie Lyon can also kick!!!

Chaos
29-09-05, 06:18 PM
Jamie Lyon can also kick!!!

Settled then, lets get Jamie.
lets get Jamie!
lets get Jamie!
lets get Jamie!

Come everyone, join in

lets get Jamie!
lets get Jamie!
lets get Jamie!

Dakink
29-09-05, 06:23 PM
Think I am starting to agree

Jamie, Jamie, Jamie, Jamie!!!!

dan the man
30-09-05, 01:47 PM
as per other post..

i heard that gc are tryin 2 sign brett delaney? star cente and kicker

The Original Idiot
30-09-05, 02:05 PM
Get 'em both.

Lachy
03-10-05, 09:01 AM
Again, I try to make my point, don't you think there are plenty of Specialist Goalkickers in the QRL and around the GC area, why does every player have to be bought? The club will fail ten times as quickly with no grass roots, You can't expected Marquee players to continue to sign to the club, at some point, a LOCAL aspect has to come into play.

GT_Titan
03-10-05, 09:16 AM
Again, I try to make my point, don't you think there are plenty of Specialist Goalkickers in the QRL and around the GC area, why does every player have to be bought? The club will fail ten times as quickly with no grass roots, You can't expected Marquee players to continue to sign to the club, at some point, a LOCAL aspect has to come into play.

I agree with you Lachy, we probably only need to get another couple of well known players and the rest of the team should be made up from young players from local area and our feeder clubs, burleigh, seagulls and the jets. The team needs to be blooded with youth. We don't need any more players in there 30's either, where the team will only get 1-2 yrs out of them at best.

Getting back to getting a specailist goal kicker, I.m sure we could find one in the QRL who isn't going to have a hefty price tag on him. I do belive we need a kicker with at least a 65-70% success rate. Gold Coast teams in the past have not always had a specialist goal kicker and it's so frustrating to be able to score the trys but being let down by not converting it into 6 points.

DeeGan
03-10-05, 09:41 AM
Again, I try to make my point, don't you think there are plenty of Specialist Goalkickers in the QRL and around the GC area, why does every player have to be bought? The club will fail ten times as quickly with no grass roots, You can't expected Marquee players to continue to sign to the club, at some point, a LOCAL aspect has to come into play.

Of course there will be 'grass roots' players from the GC area being brought to the Titans and developed though the club will continue to bring in current NRL players to ensure we are competitive from year 1, not year 3.

Again, the position we find ourselves as a club is a unique one. Carty, Scott Sattler and Gilly will/are scouting the QRL and lower grade teams in the NRL for players that have potential who can make an impact on the team. Young Brett Delaney from the Eels for example fits that billing.

Carty has said from the get go we are looking for the cream of the crop for 2007 to ensure we have the players on board for the Titans to make the necessary impact keeping in line with the short term goals (see Q&A with Michael Searle in the Titans forum) the club has set.

Dakink
03-10-05, 09:57 AM
Several of the signings are returning locals anyway eg. Laffranchi.

Steelers
03-10-05, 10:14 AM
Several of the signings are returning locals anyway eg. Laffranchi.

Preston Campbell started with the Gold Coast back in the day

Chaos
03-10-05, 12:04 PM
Again, I try to make my point, don't you think there are plenty of Specialist Goalkickers in the QRL and around the GC area, why does every player have to be bought? The club will fail ten times as quickly with no grass roots, You can't expected Marquee players to continue to sign to the club, at some point, a LOCAL aspect has to come into play.

The key word you use is "continue"
We are signing for the first year. Local players will learn from the players that have already signed.
You do have a point when signing in future years.
Hopfully our Grass roots players will eventually be dominating the comp.

Luke
03-10-05, 03:22 PM
Michael Ennis comes off contract at the end of 2006 he is a great goal kicker. kicking at 84%