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Boofhead
08-05-11, 08:47 PM
Gold Coast Titans vs Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles
7:00pm 16 May 2011 - Skilled Park, Gold Coast

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TITANS

1. Preston Campbell 2. Steve Michaels 3. Esi Tonga 19. Joseph Tomane 5. David Mead 6. William Zillman 7. Scott Prince
8. Luke Bailey 9. Riley Brown 10. Matt White 11. Greg Bird 12. Mark Minichiello 13. Ashley Harrison

Interchange: 14. Michael Henderson 15. Ryan James 16. Ben Ridge 17. Luke O'Dwyer
Extended Bench: 18. Kayne Lawton

SEA EAGLES

1. Brett Stewart 2. Michael Robertson 3. Jamie Lyon (c) 4. Steve Matai 5. Will Hopoate 6. Kieran Foran 7. Daly Cherry-Evans
8. Jason King (c) 9. Matt Ballin 10. Brent Kite 11. Anthony Watmough 12. Joe Galuvao 13. Glenn Stewart

Interchange: 14. Vic Mauro 15. Jamie Buhrer 16. George Rose 17. Tony Williams
Extended Bench: 18. Tim Robinson


Referees
Gavin Badger and Adam Devcich
Touch Judges: Michael Wise and Henry Perenara
Video Referee: Chris Ward

Boofhead
08-05-11, 08:48 PM
Starting to get a bit desperate, would like to see some shake ups in squad list.

Do or Die?

titansrawesome
08-05-11, 08:50 PM
if we shake up the 17 then we can win, if we dont AGAIN we will lose, im gonna tip against them this week so they win hopefully

teke
08-05-11, 08:54 PM
Manly are strong across the board.

K'arn you mighty Eagullz, I mean Titans :)

DIEHARD
08-05-11, 09:11 PM
Shake Up! Shake Up! Shake Up!

We missed Friend out there, no doubt too.

TITAN PETE
08-05-11, 09:12 PM
Shake Up! Shake Up! Shake Up!

We missed Friend out there, no doubt too.

Something we have to get used to , let Lawton have the 9

DIEHARD
08-05-11, 09:17 PM
Something we have to get used to , let Lawton have the 9

Yea... that is the equivalant of re-building the Titan battleship from the keel up.

teke
08-05-11, 09:18 PM
Something we have to get used to , let Lawton have the 9Everyone saw the spark when he came on :)

Boofhead
08-05-11, 09:31 PM
Mead and Thompson have found a pretty strong combination... There is little chance Tomane will be coming into the side unless Mead shifts to fullback or Joe can play fullback (can he...?)

Got me ****ed what the team will be next week, luckily we have till Monday to clean up our act.

After viewing the highlights though, It would be great seeing Mead getting some more ball.

teke
08-05-11, 09:36 PM
I think a big shake up would be Shannon coming into the side at fullback, anything more would be a real big surprise to me.

teke
08-05-11, 09:38 PM
After viewing the highlights though, It would be great seeing Mead getting some more ball.I've been saying that for years.

Manu told him after the game to stop running around him :laugh: :laugh:

Rage
08-05-11, 09:38 PM
I think the biggest shake up Carty would do is moving Zilly back to fullback and Bird to 5/8 if he makes any changes

titansrawesome
08-05-11, 09:44 PM
i still maintain walker fullback, tomane centre, and lawton hooker and taga on the bench for o dwyer. i have no idea why cart still likes brown i wouldnt pick him for southport tigers under 19s

Boofhead
08-05-11, 09:57 PM
I've been saying that for years.

Manu told him after the game to stop running around him :laugh: :laugh:

It's really amazing to see what he can do with the ball once he actually gets it!

Would be happy to see on Tuesday:

1. Zillman
6. Bird
17. Campbell/Capewell (playing at 5/8)

1. Mead
5. Tomane
6. Zillman

1. Walker
6. Zillman

Just something needs to change! Sad thing is the backs really aren't our main problem.

teke
08-05-11, 09:59 PM
Just something needs to change! Sad thing is the backs really aren't our main problem.I know.

Surfers6
09-05-11, 10:20 AM
Carty needs to get the fans excited to watch again.
The current squad are not performing and i vote for major shake ups.

Hoping it is something like this.

1 D.Mead
2 S.Michaels
3 E.Tonga
4 B.Thompson
5 J.Tomane
6 W.Zillman
7 S.Prince
8 L.Bailey
9 K.Lawton
10 R.James
11 G.Bird
12 M.Minichello
13 A.Harrison

14 M.White
15 S.Tagatese
16 B.Ridge
17 P.Campbell

Blazertaser
09-05-11, 10:41 AM
Carty needs to get the fans excited to watch again.
The current squad are not performing and i vote for major shake ups.

Hoping it is something like this.

1 D.Mead
2 S.Michaels
3 E.Tonga
4 B.Thompson
5 J.Tomane
6 W.Zillman
7 S.Prince
8 L.Bailey
9 K.Lawton
10 R.James
11 G.Bird
12 M.Minichello
13 A.Harrison

14 M.White
15 S.Tagatese
16 B.Ridge
17 P.Campbell

Loving the idea of that side, very strong. Though, how long is Bailey set to be out for?

TITAN PETE
09-05-11, 10:49 AM
Not a bad side but has Chalky broken a leg .. must have to be left out of the 17 :surprise:

Titan_Blue
09-05-11, 10:57 AM
Not a bad side but has Chalky broken a leg .. must have to be left out of the 17 :surprise:

I've gotta admit I've never known who 'Chalky' is referring to...

Who is Chalky?

lonegull
09-05-11, 10:59 AM
I've gotta admit I've never known who 'Chalky' is referring to...

Who is Chalky?

Luke O'Dwyer

Titan_Blue
09-05-11, 11:01 AM
Ah, cheers

titansrawesome
09-05-11, 12:19 PM
poor luke, taga to come in now

Rage
09-05-11, 12:21 PM
I'm excited to see what side Carty's gonna name even though it's probably not gonna change

Titan_Blue
09-05-11, 12:26 PM
We have been terrible all year and there's been about two changes, I'm not holding my breath.

We are missing Friend and Laffranchi something chronic, hard to believe they have both been released by us for next year. Flash over substance from our recruiting team.

Coaster
09-05-11, 12:32 PM
Need someone to do the hard stuff, the 1% plays
Bailey will do it, but needs help. Tempted to play ODwyer at hooker

lonegull
09-05-11, 12:51 PM
Need someone to do the hard stuff, the 1% plays
Bailey will do it, but needs help. Tempted to play ODwyer at hooker

totally agree give O'dywer a shot at hooker surely cant be as bad as brown, interchanging with lawton or srama

titansrawesome
09-05-11, 12:54 PM
totally agree give O'dywer a shot at hooker surely cant be as bad as brown, interchanging with lawton or srama

lawton at hooker was good

gotitans101
09-05-11, 01:09 PM
Yea give Lawton another shot at hooker I reckon. Send Brown back to QLD cup, he's just a waste of time in first grade.

teke
09-05-11, 01:18 PM
Lawton at Hooker was great, however he needs more game fitness which is not his strength.

titansrawesome
09-05-11, 01:22 PM
either way no more effing brown

lonegull
09-05-11, 02:11 PM
either way no more effing brown

+1

GoldCoastTitans100
09-05-11, 03:26 PM
1. Shannon Walker
2. Steve Michaels
3. Joseph Tomane
4. Esi Tonga
5. David Mead
6. Luke Capewell/ Preston Campbell
7. William Zillman
8. Luke Bailey (C)
9. Kayne Lawton
10. Michael Henderson
11. Greg Bird
12. Mark Minichiello
13. Ashley Harrison

14. Bodene Thompson
15. Sam Tagataese
16. B.Ridge
17. Preston Campbell/ Luke Capewell

This team would win against Manly.

Surfers6
09-05-11, 03:43 PM
1. Shannon Walker
2. Steve Michaels
3. Joseph Tomane
4. Esi Tonga
5. David Mead
6. Luke Capewell/ Preston Campbell
7. William Zillman
8. Luke Bailey (C)
9. Kayne Lawton
10. Michael Henderson
11. Greg Bird
12. Mark Minichiello
13. Ashley Harrison

14. Bodene Thompson
15. Sam Tagataese
16. B.Ridge
17. Preston Campbell/ Luke Capewell

This team would win against Manly.

Will Prince be playing for Burleigh, Ipswich or Tweed?

DIEHARD
09-05-11, 04:10 PM
I'd definitely put in Kayne now. He is the future so let's back him!

GoldCoastTitans100
09-05-11, 04:11 PM
Will Prince be playing for Burleigh, Ipswich or Tweed?

Not my problem, maybe he will look like a average player in the Queensland cup.

Rage
09-05-11, 04:13 PM
Def agree with everyone on replacing Brown with Lawton as our second pick hooker

DIEHARD
09-05-11, 04:14 PM
I also think that we need to find room for Shannon. Obviously not on the wing as Mead and Michaels have been great. I think maybe at fullback and Preston as the super sub.

titansrawesome
09-05-11, 04:14 PM
Will Prince be playing for Burleigh, Ipswich or Tweed?

runaway bay seagulls, i like goldcoastitans100 team though a lot but it will never happen

titansrawesome
09-05-11, 04:17 PM
im almost inclined to say presto halfback and prince where preston would be on the bench

GoldCoastTitans100
09-05-11, 04:20 PM
runaway bay seagulls, i like goldcoastitans100 team though a lot but it will never happen

Thanks, i know it will never happen because Prince only needs to be fit to get picked and carty does not like changing anything.

Serious changes need to happen before we become the joke of the NRL.

GoldCoastTitans100
09-05-11, 04:22 PM
im almost inclined to say presto halfback and prince where preston would be on the bench

I can't agree with that for two reasons,
1. Preston is not the player who will control the team around the pitch, he is more of a exiting F8.
2. Prince would not have a impact of the bench.

titansrawesome
09-05-11, 04:23 PM
I can't agree with that for two reasons,
1. Preston is not the player who will control the team around the pitch, he is more of a exiting F8.
2. Prince would not have a impact of the bench.

well prince will always play no matter what thats why i had to have him their, and presto is not a speed bump at HB

patskE
09-05-11, 04:27 PM
i prob have walker at fb, lawton at 9 cause he needs more game time
with presto on the bench to cover lawton/supersub
doubt this will happen but, only changes will be for injury's
mead/gordon never get enough ball. mead never has, gordon did when rogers or tonga was next to him, so we seen wat he can do, now we can see wat mead can do now, hopefully it wasnt a one off thing from thompson lol

GoldCoastTitans100
09-05-11, 04:29 PM
well prince will always play no matter what thats why i had to have him their, and presto is not a speed bump at HB

Fair enough :)
But Preston is just not cut out to be a HB, Impact sub playing 6 or 9 when Lawton needs a rest.

Supergoose
09-05-11, 05:41 PM
It's definitely time to shake things up. Surely Cartwright has had enough of sub-par performances. We need to start by diffusing some kicks. I would go with the following with Mead and Tomane switching between attack and defence.

1. Shannon Walker
2. Joseph Tomane
3. Esi Tonga
4. David Mead
5. Steve Michaels
6. William Zillman
7. Scott Prince
8. Luke Bailey
9. Kayne Lawton / Ben Ridge
10. Michael Henderson
11. Ashley Harrison
12. Bodene Thompson
13. Greg Bird

14. Mark Minichiello / Sam Tagataese
15. Matthew White
16. Ryan James
17. Kayne Lawton / Ben Ridge / Luke O'Dwyer (don't think Chalky passes that well off the ground though)

titansrawesome
09-05-11, 06:03 PM
It's definitely time to shake things up. Surely Cartwright has had enough of sub-par performances. We need to start by diffusing some kicks. I would go with the following with Mead and Tomane switching between attack and defence.

1. Shannon Walker
2. Joseph Tomane
3. Esi Tonga
4. David Mead
5. Steve Michaels
6. William Zillman
7. Scott Prince
8. Luke Bailey
9. Kayne Lawton / Ben Ridge
10. Michael Henderson
11. Ashley Harrison
12. Bodene Thompson
13. Greg Bird

14. Mark Minichiello / Sam Tagataese
15. Matthew White
16. Ryan James
17. Kayne Lawton / Ben Ridge / Luke O'Dwyer (don't think Chalky passes that well off the ground though)
i like it too but we need to make bird our long kicker and prince the short one.

GoldCoastTitans100
09-05-11, 06:13 PM
Luke Capewell could be the long kicker... and bird could put up the high kicks.

titansrawesome
09-05-11, 07:09 PM
Luke Capewell could be the long kicker... and bird could put up the high kicks.

capewells done as they say in the ufc when someone goes or is bad

GoldCoastTitans100
09-05-11, 07:24 PM
capewells done as they say in the ufc when someone goes or is bad

If he does not get another chance that is ridicules

TITAN PETE
09-05-11, 07:46 PM
If he does not get another chance that is ridicules

You are right & I'm sure he'll get another shot & hopefully it will be with the seven on his back because he is a Halfback :thumbsup:

TITAN PETE
09-05-11, 07:50 PM
We will be playing a Manly side playing with plenty of confidence & Stewart has just found some serious form & scored a hat trick ... Our outside backs will need to be a brick wall to hold out Matai,Hoppa & the Snake :fight:

GoldCoastTitans100
09-05-11, 08:05 PM
You are right & I'm sure he'll get another shot & hopefully it will be with the seven on his back because he is a Halfback :thumbsup:

Yeah i would not object to that. Not much of a difference between HB or F8 so i would be happy to see Zillman play whatever.

Titanic
09-05-11, 08:10 PM
We will be playing a Manly side playing with plenty of confidence & Stewart has just found some serious form & scored a hat trick ... Our outside backs will need to be a brick wall to hold out Matai,Hoppa & the Snake :fight:

The best we can hope for is they don't put 30 on us. I know that's so negaltive but if we are going to try some new structure then we better learn to take a few beltings ... sorry I mean take a few more beltings.

I am happy to get whacked f we are trying some new faces. How come nobody is talking about our pop gun front row of Henderson and White? Bailey, Tagataese and james would do me.

1. Walker
2. Mead
3. Tomane
4. Tonga
5. Michaels
6. Zillman
7. Prince
8. Bailey
9. Lawnton
10. Tagataese
11. Bird
12. Thompson
13. Harrison

14. James
15. Minichiello
16. White/Henderson
17. Campbell

TITAN PETE
09-05-11, 08:51 PM
Yeah I'm almost thinking Hendo has had enough chances , he's been disappointing this year but I do know he's had medical issues to put up with that aren't Footy related..

I'll be happy to see Taga wear the 10 & earn his keep the hard way :fight:

teke
10-05-11, 03:23 AM
Yeah I'm almost thinking Hendo has had enough chances , he's been disappointing this year but I do know he's had medical issues to put up with that aren't Footy related..

I'll be happy to see Taga wear the 10 & earn his keep the hard way :fight:Taga in the front row is the only position I want him in with the players we have in this side. He is keen to do it aswell, full frontal assault is what he would be good at :eyebrows:

lonegull
10-05-11, 06:08 AM
team named today hopefully with a few new faces, although its a safe bet that Carty will name the same side as last week with the only change Bailey back in the front row with an extended becnh of 5, dont go getting hopes up because there will be no changes

DIEHARD
10-05-11, 12:39 PM
The naming of the team has been pushed back and there will also be an additional announcement made. Stay tuned.

Titan_Blue
10-05-11, 12:42 PM
Any idea what time the team will be named and the announcement will be Diehard?

Titan_Blue
10-05-11, 12:49 PM
Righto, the team has been named:

Jetstar Gold Coast Titans v Manly Sea Eagles
7.00pm, Monday, May 16th
Skilled Park

1 Preston Campbell
2 Steve Michaels
3 Esi Tonga
4 Bodene Thompson
5 David Mead
6 William Zillman
7 Scott Prince
8 Luke Bailey
9 Riley Brown
10 Matthew White
11 Greg Bird
12 Mark Minichiello
13 Ashley Harrison

INTERCHANGE

14 Michael Henderson
15 Ryan James
16 Ben Ridge
17 Luke O'Dwyer
18 Kayne Lawton

Some exciting changes.

lonegull
10-05-11, 12:51 PM
exactly as I predicted no changes, bloody hell why oh why oh why

titansrawesome
10-05-11, 12:58 PM
i effing knew it, sea eagles are laughing, i knew carty would till our season is screwed like canberra to make some changes

Blazertaser
10-05-11, 01:01 PM
Honestly have no clue what carty see's in Riley Brown :|

lonegull
10-05-11, 01:16 PM
Honestly have no clue what carty see's in Riley Brown :|

neither does 99% of supporters out there

TITAN PETE
10-05-11, 01:19 PM
Manly by 20 & the other announcement will be Champion has signed

titansrawesome
10-05-11, 01:31 PM
Manly by 20 & the other announcement will be Champion has signed

this. if it aint broke dont fix it, if it is broken then we should fix it and we are broken.

teke
10-05-11, 01:41 PM
Errors lost the game, and they mainly came from 1 person. They played alright otherwise. This is the best team possible at this pt in time so ppl are going to have to get use to it.

titansrawesome
10-05-11, 01:46 PM
Errors lost the game, and they mainly came from 1 person. They played alright otherwise. This is the best team possible at this pt in time so ppl are going to have to get use to it.

no not even close to the besdt team what have you been injecting. we have taga,tomane,walker and srama at our disposal and none of them picked and brown still our effing hooker, im starting to think we need a record scoring beatdown from manly to get some changes actually happening. this ' best possible side' is 3 wins 6 losses and on the verge of mad monday in may if we dont change the team and the tactics. sorry but i am very angry even though i am not surprised.

teke
10-05-11, 01:49 PM
no not even close to the besdt team what have you been injecting. we have taga,tomane,walker and srama at our disposal and none of them picked and brown still our effing hooker, im starting to think we need a record scoring beatdown from manly to get some changes actually happening. this ' best possible side' is 3 wins 6 losses and on the verge of mad monday in may if we dont change the team and the tactics. sorry but i am very angry even though i am not surprised.Maybe you are over estimating how good this team can get then if these players you keep naming are the be all and end all to our problems.

There is a reason they arent getting in and management watch all their games.

titansrawesome
10-05-11, 01:52 PM
Maybe you are over estimating how good this team can get then if these players you keep naming are the be all and end all to our problems.

There is a reason they arent getting in and management watch all their games.

that makes no sense, tomane is top tryscorer for ipswich and 3rd tryscorer overall, shannon walker has always been a excitement machine as has being going good for tweed, srama is 19 year old friend, and taga has played for us and always looked like creating tries as a forward, and we are 3-6 and going like ****e even in our wins and we dont want to risk putting them in to help us. hell broncos do this very 2 weeks and they discover 3 new stars every year.

teke
10-05-11, 02:04 PM
that makes no sense, tomane is top tryscorer for ipswich and 3rd tryscorer overall, shannon walker has always been a excitement machine as has being going good for tweed, srama is 19 year old friend, and taga has played for us and always looked like creating tries as a forward, and we are 3-6 and going like ****e even in our wins and we dont want to risk putting them in to help us. hell broncos do this very 2 weeks and they discover 3 new stars every year.I suggest you ask management why these players arent getting in. They will give you a straight up answer. Either that or watch the Q Cup yourself and stop going off what is written on a piece of paper.

titansrawesome
10-05-11, 02:07 PM
I suggest you ask management why these players arent getting in. They will give you a straight up answer. Either that or watch the Q Cup yourself and stop going off what is written on a piece of paper.

ok if this is our best team that needs no changing whatsoever then we have a god damn awful team or gameplan, and you cant tell me brown is better than any other hooker we have

thelwall
10-05-11, 02:42 PM
they are playing Q cup not the nrl, the Q cup is no where near and never ever will be as strong as the nrl so of course people are ganna look good there , i agree with lawton over brown , but i think people need to look at the games walker has actually already played in the nrl , they wernt that great in my opinion

titansrawesome
10-05-11, 02:49 PM
yes but they have also all played for the titans before and none of them were abysmal, taga should have never been dropped, lawton was good and brown has been poo, tomane got like 6 tries in 7 games for us last year, and walker has been an attacking presence in his 3 games for us, so the qld cup argument is irrelevant

thelwall
10-05-11, 02:58 PM
i agree on most of that but disagree on the walker bit , attack isnt everything , he dropped heaps and didnt really wow me

titansrawesome
10-05-11, 03:03 PM
i agree on most of that but disagree on the walker bit , attack isnt everything , he dropped heaps and didnt really wow me

well yeah against the dragons last yeah he had a bit of a shocker in handling but even preston had a worse game last week and we know how good he can be

thelwall
10-05-11, 03:11 PM
true , i just hope he can prove me wrong :) dont get me wrong i think the bloke has talent , and he is freaking like lighting to

gotitans101
10-05-11, 03:21 PM
I'd have to agree with teke. Warriors scored most of their points on the back of our stupid errors, hardly a reason to swap a team around. Had we not made those errors, dare I say it, we probably would have won that game. I don't believe bringing in the beloved Tomane will solve anything, the guy leaked so many points down that side last year when he played at NRL level, at one stage Carty even had enough and took him off for a breather iirc.

Preston had a bad game, but he will make up for it - he always does. I don't think throwing Walker in the deep end is the right call. At the end of the year if we've missed the finals then yes - give him a shot.

But I think we can all agree that Brown doesn't deserve to be there.

We lack discipline. Changing the team around won't fix that. All we need to do is hold on to the ball and stop the silly errors. Sounds easy yes? Apparently not.

titansrawesome
10-05-11, 03:22 PM
true , i just hope he can prove me wrong :) dont get me wrong i think the bloke has talent , and he is freaking like lighting to

right, i think our problem in honesty is attacking flair, forget defense for a second, we make the most metres in the comp with our forwards and yet we barely score sweet tries or many tries which tells you the attack is to blame, and when we score the tries and we have the points racked up a few things happen, the other team gets upset as the scoreboard gets worse for them, we get momentum and we break their wills and we dont have to rely on defense as much as we need to if our attack is marching down the field and keeping the opponents there while we score lots of points.

so when we get people in the backs like tomane,walker,mead,michaels,campbell and taga in the forwards and lawton as hooker we have attacking flair and the above happens and we win heaps of games, the forwards are doing their job better than anyone else except for henderson and white, the backs just have to do their job which they havent been able to do all year pretty much.

thelwall
10-05-11, 03:23 PM
agree 110% with gotitans101

titansrawesome
10-05-11, 03:25 PM
I'd have to agree with teke. Warriors scored most of their points on the back of our stupid errors, hardly a reason to swap a team around. Had we not made those errors, dare I say it, we probably would have won that game. I don't believe bringing in the beloved Tomane will solve anything, the guy leaked so many points down that side last year when he played at NRL level, at one stage Carty even had enough and took him off for a breather iirc.

Preston had a bad game, but he will make up for it - he always does. I don't think throwing Walker in the deep end is the right call. At the end of the year if we've missed the finals then yes - give him a shot.

But I think we can all agree that Brown doesn't deserve to be there.

We lack discipline. Changing the team around won't fix that. All we need to do is hold on to the ball and stop the silly errors. Sounds easy yes? Apparently not.


why would you want to wait till we are out of the finals to put someone in? then its a waste of a year especially if we can 4th and 3rd in the last 2 seasons, and how do you know changing the team wont fix it? other teams do it all the time and it works wonders, except the last placed raiders who never drop orford and when sam williams was the 7 they won their first game and haven't won since. as i said if it aint broke dont fix it, but if it is(and we are) then you do need to fix it.

Rage
10-05-11, 04:41 PM
I guess we all knew this was gonna happen, I wonder if we'll stick with the same team barring any injuries or if Carty is waiting for us to get really hammered till he decides to switch things around. I agree I don't want to see changes when there's no hope left for our season, some guys should get a run that could change/fix up some of our flaws and add some spark to our side.

BackpackingTitan
10-05-11, 05:02 PM
Just watched a replay of the Manly vs Raiders game and they really are a very well coached side (Manly not Raiders haha) with a lot of very good combinations in attack. If the team plays like they have all year this Monday Manly will put 40 on them easy.

Chaos
10-05-11, 05:11 PM
Just something needs to change! Sad thing is the backs really aren't our main problem.

Forwards have carried the Titans for three years...It's hard to keep working hard with limited reward.

TitansFan2020
10-05-11, 05:20 PM
The Jetstar Gold Coast Titans will regain the services of key prop Luke Bailey for next Monday night’s Round 10 clash against the Manly Sea Eagles at Skilled Park.

Bailey was a late withdrawal from Sunday’s loss to the New Zealand Warriors with neck/shoulder soreness but has been named by Jetstar Titans Coach John Cartwright in an unchanged 18-man squad to take on the Sea Eagles.

Jetstar Gold Coast Titans v Manly Sea Eagles
7.00pm, Monday, May 16th
Skilled Park

1 Preston Campbell
2 Steve Michaels
3 Esi Tonga
4 Bodene Thompson
5 David Mead
6 William Zillman
7 Scott Prince
8 Luke Bailey
9 Riley Brown
10 Matthew White
11 Greg Bird
12 Mark Minichiello
13 Ashley Harrison

INTERCHANGE

14 Michael Henderson
15 Ryan James
16 Ben Ridge
17 Luke O'Dwyer
18 Kayne Lawton

Titans NYC team vs Manly

1 Jordan Rankin
2 Alec Jones
3 Jackson Springer
4 Hymel Hunt
5 Shaun Carney
6 Cory McGrady
7 Sam Irwin
8 Luke Page
9 Matt Srama
10 Lain Windley
11 Nick Harold
12 Blake Anderson
13 Sam Martin

INTERCHANGE
14 Cale Hobday
15 Dylan Hartin
16 Mitch Spackman
17 Japeth Vaoa
18 Sam Ross

*

patskE
10-05-11, 05:29 PM
i dnt get y its unchanged
is he ever going to change it up? how many more games do we need to loose b4 we see other guys given a go....

GoldCoastTitans100
10-05-11, 05:33 PM
:rolf:

FFS !

titansrawesome
10-05-11, 05:33 PM
i dnt get y its unchanged
is he ever going to change it up? how many more games do we need to loose b4 we see other guys given a go....

he isnt by the time he does we will have 13 losses will be over our season

Chaos
10-05-11, 05:41 PM
he isnt by the time he does we will have 13 losses will be over our season

Forget about making the finals this year...we should be in a rebuilding stage.

The 9, 6 and 1 should be focused on...I think Zillman at 5/8 is slowing the process down...unless he gives someone a go at fullback.

titansrawesome
10-05-11, 05:45 PM
Forget about making the finals this year...we should be in a rebuilding stage.

The 9, 6 and 1 should be focused on...I think Zillman at 5/8 is slowing the process down...unless he gives someone a go at fullback.

unfortunately i know this, we shouldnt be in this predictiment if car took some chances for the better, most people on the forum at round 3 said its too early to get worried but look where we are now, i realised back then that it is a long season but that doesnt mean bad performances and no risk taking losses dont add up.

Supergoose
10-05-11, 08:15 PM
We have had a real problem diffusing kicks. Campbell and Mead have proven over and over again that they aren't consistently proficient at it. I'm not sure Walker is either but that is based on limited vision - what I am sure of, is that Tomane is superior in the air to anyone else we have in our team and I'd love to see him bringing the ball back from kicks. He is a weapon which we have kept holstered too long. The back row is the reason we are suffering and Thompson needs to go back there and it needs to be shaken up. I think Tagataese has been fairly poor so far this year bar one game - I agree he should play some prop, but at Q Cup level for a while. Our props aren't going that badly, the back row is our major problem and until they can stick their tackles, hold onto the ball and not give away penalties, we won't win many games.

I agree that if we don't see dramatic improvement, Manly will tear us apart. I haven't seen odds that would lead me to bet on the Titans - would need to be over $3.50 head-to-head to get me interested. Manly will win 13+ unless we have the most dramatic of turn-arounds.

MJF
10-05-11, 08:57 PM
I am all for change and agree Lawton and Tomane must come in.

Taga would be pretty close not sure who to get rid of for him though - he lacks the work rate for prop he really needed to develop his game further over the past 12 months and he hasn't - that is on the coaches IMO.

As for Walker, I don't think he has ever looked a first grader, but can see the argument for giving him a few games to test - HOWEVER no NRL could ever have both him and Preston in the 17, let alone one with Mead and (the 2010-11 model) Prince already there.

Coaster
10-05-11, 09:09 PM
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Coaster
10-05-11, 09:09 PM
Now available on iTunes
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New Episode of LegionTalk Podcast (audio version):
Round 10:
We dust ourselves off, and prepare to face Manly on Monday night, i give my thoughts on who we should target as a new signing, and a fair bit more..
LISTEN HERE (http://www.titanslegion.com/LegionTalk/Titans11-10.mp3)

Titanic
10-05-11, 10:24 PM
did I just read no change? well then, I predict no change to the result.

teke
11-05-11, 02:02 AM
We have had a real problem diffusing kicks. Campbell and Mead have proven over and over again that they aren't consistently proficient at it. I'm not sure Walker is either but that is based on limited vision - what I am sure of, is that Tomane is superior in the air to anyone else we have in our team and I'd love to see him bringing the ball back from kicks. He is a weapon which we have kept holstered too long. The back row is the reason we are suffering and Thompson needs to go back there and it needs to be shaken up. I think Tagataese has been fairly poor so far this year bar one game - I agree he should play some prop, but at Q Cup level for a while. Our props aren't going that badly, the back row is our major problem and until they can stick their tackles, hold onto the ball and not give away penalties, we won't win many games.

I agree that if we don't see dramatic improvement, Manly will tear us apart. I haven't seen odds that would lead me to bet on the Titans - would need to be over $3.50 head-to-head to get me interested. Manly will win 13+ unless we have the most dramatic of turn-arounds.You dont know whether Walker is proficient at it? it is one of the reasons he isnt fullback now. Presto had an off game, name a outside back that can diffuse 75% of the contested bombs thrown his way. I saw slater drop 3 the other night.

Im of the belief that Bailey doesnt have a partner to help him, the 2nd row is fine. You want Bodene out of the centre bad aye :D He has almost nailed that spot down now. If Kevin didnt get injured on the week he did the right centre was going to be Esi's.

Supergoose
11-05-11, 06:25 AM
I love Bodene as a player but I think he would improve our back row which is misfiring. The major issue with the back row is they all like the left hand edge, even Harrison who is playing in the middle. I would shuffle Bodene onto the right edge with Mead and Tomane outside him switching between wing and centre in attach and defence.

I also think Mead is shaky under the high ball and I really want Tomane to be given a decent crack. Preston has been great and has proven himself under the high ball, he does have games where he doesn't get near them though and in those games we can't compete. I think Walker will be a star in the NRL just like Ben Barba, but it won't be as a Titan because he's not getting what he needs from us and that is time in first grade.

gotitans101
11-05-11, 02:34 PM
I also think Mead is shaky under the high ball and I really want Tomane to be given a decent crack.

Can't agree with this. I think Mead looks very comfortable under a high ball. The only reason he has trouble defusing kicks and producing any attacking plays from kicks is because he lacks height. Tomane would certainly help in that department at least, but as I said, I still have doubts about Tomane.

Agree about Bodene belonging in the back row, but maybe give him some time and see if he can develop a better combination with Mead on that side first before shifting him.

Rage
11-05-11, 02:40 PM
I was all for moving Bodene to the back row until we saw him discover that he actually had a man outside him - I'm interested to see if the combination with Mead is starting to gel or if it was a one off

DIEHARD
11-05-11, 04:00 PM
What we also need is a good crowd, it is always hard on Monday night footy, but let's all try and get a big crowd there.

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Titanmudgee
11-05-11, 10:01 PM
The team that runs out for the titans on Monday night will not be the team that has been named. Expect a few changes

teke
12-05-11, 12:54 AM
Can't agree with this. I think Mead looks very comfortable under a high ball. The only reason he has trouble defusing kicks and producing any attacking plays from kicks is because he lacks height. Tomane would certainly help in that department at least, but as I said, I still have doubts about Tomane.

Agree about Bodene belonging in the back row, but maybe give him some time and see if he can develop a better combination with Mead on that side first before shifting him.That is spot on, it's the same for Kevin aswell.

They both look real comfortable taking the bombs when it's directed at them and it's not contested. As soon as it's 50/50, they are arms stretched out trying to take it with their hands because they are usually the shorter man. 50/50 bombs are just that.

Im all for Tomane coming in, but can agree with Bo being booted for it when he just played one of his better games of the year.

TITAN PETE
12-05-11, 08:46 AM
Titans v Sea Eagles preview

NRL.com Thu, May 12, 2011 - 8:30 AM

Titans v Sea Eagles
Skilled Park
Monday 7pm

Remember the Titans? The team that knew how to soak up pressure and bounce back from the wrong side of the scoreboard in matches better than most?

Yeah, we remember; it was only last year. But with every game of the 2011 season those recollections grow dimmer than a Darius Boyd post-match interview.

With just three wins from nine games the Titans languish in 14th place on the NRL ladder. Their form of late has been a little Jekyll-and-Hyde ? a rousing 20-14 win at home in Round 6 followed by a deflating 22-18 loss to the struggling Eels. Then came further promise with a demolition of the Roosters, before last week?s demoralising home loss to the Warriors, who had several players backing up from Test duty. They?re catching a wave, but seemingly are just not able to ride it.

Meanwhile the Sea Eagles are performing pretty much as expected. They sit in fourth place with a 6-3 win record, the Raiders their latest victims after a merciless 20-0 thrashing on a quagmire Brookvale Oval last Monday night. The game was notable for Brett Stewart?s return after a five-game injury absence, the star fullback registering a try hat-trick to take his career tally to 101.

Personnel-wise the home side welcomes back Luke Bailey ? who re-signed during the week for two more years, tying him to the club through 2013 ? as a starting prop, with Michael Henderson reverting to the bench. Mark Minichiello and Ben Ridge swap their roles from last week, with Minichiello starting in the second row and Ridge benched.

Sea Eagles co-captain Jason King returns at prop, with George Rose dropping to the bench. Jamie Buhrer will play as an interchange, with Joe Galuvao starting in the second row.

Watch Out Titans: Errors are killing the Titans and they aren?t recovering the way they have in recent years. The Titans rank rock bottom for dropped balls and turnovers with 14 a game. This has put pressure on their defence, and they?re now missing 34 tackles a game in 2011. Meanwhile the Sea Eagles rank middle of the road for errors with 11.9 ? but miss the second fewest tackles of all teams by just 0.1 per cent to the Melbourne Storm (26.1 to 26.2).

Conceding offloads is also hurting them. Last week the Warriors put them to the sword on the back of 36 offloads that triggered second-phase play. The Sea Eagles are making almost 13 a game, ranking them among the league leaders.

Kieran Foran continues to grow in the No.6 jersey for the Sea Eagles. The Kiwi showed his wonderful versatility slipping into halfback for the Kiwis last Friday before leading the way against the Raiders last Monday. The 20-year-old ranks among the leading five-eighths for line-break assists (with six, ranked second), tackle-breaks (24, ranked third) and try assists (eight, ranked fourth). He continues to take the pressure off Jamie Lyon, who has shouldered much of the playmaking burden at Brookvale in recent years.

Danger Sign: Brett Stewart?s hat-trick last week would still be giving Titans coach John Cartwright heart palpitations. The speedy No.1 has crossed six times in only four outings against the Gold Coast. A double here would see him become the seventh Sea Eagle to notch multiple four-pointers in three consecutive games against the same team.

Watch Out Sea Eagles: For all their faults in 2011 the Titans still boast immense speed in their backline. Five-eighth William Zillman ranks fourth for tries with six, just ahead of centre Steve Michaels, while David Mead (176 metres last week, with seven tackle-breaks and three line-breaks) has really come into his own in the past fortnight, bagging four tries.

Then there?s jack-in-the-box Preston Campbell; he had one of his five worst career games against the Warriors (with three howling errors) and will be desperate to make amends for home fans who struggled through last week.

Bodene Thompson is a bit of a ?sleeper? talent in the centres ? last week he was a standout in a beaten side, running 93 metres with two try assists and five offloads.

Danger Sign: Preston Campbell likes nothing more than lining up against the Sea Eagles ? he is ranked 10th for all-time tackle-breaks (614) and has averaged almost four every time he plays them, his most against any opponent.

Plays To Watch: Luke Bailey yelling ?follow me, boys!? and charging into the opposition; Preston Campbell seizing the initiative and sparking some raids from long range; Scott Prince getting more involved than he has been recently ? his grubber behind the Manly defence should feature prominently providing the side can work into the required field position; David Mead?s electrifying speed; Kieran Foran?s magnificent creativity; Steve Matai?s offloads; Brett Stewart trailing Daly Cherry-Evans and Foran around like a nagging, hungry toddler in a supermarket.

Where It Will Be Won: Individual performances that spark a united effort. The Titans need to get inspiration from somewhere and possibly Bailey?s return could be the catalyst.

There are intriguing match-ups throughout: Campbell v Stewart; Michael Robertson v David Mead; Foran v Prince (not the same positions but each will be depended on as the key playmaker).

The Titans need a lot more from their ruck players if they are to get back into winning mode. Last week hooker Riley Brown made a modest 45 receives, with Preston Campbell registering a team-high 49 in the No.1 jersey ? Campbell is a part-time player these days and he simply had too much on his plate.

But ultimately they need Scott Prince to step up. The captain?s figures aren?t all that flash. Last year he was among the best halfbacks for conjuring line-break assists (19 ? ranked third) and try assists (25 ? ranked second). This year he?s a lowly 11th for line-break assists (just two) and 13th for try assists (three). His missed tackles continue to mount too ? he has 30 through nine games compared to 70 through 21 games in 2010.

The History: Played 7, Sea Eagles 4, Titans 3. The Titans have won three of the past four games between the sides, including both games in 2010 ? the last encounter a 28-10 win at home. At Skilled Park the ledger favours the home side 2-1.

Conclusion: The Titans are certainly capable of matching it with the Sea Eagles but unfortunately based on their recent form we would be guessing if that was going to be the case this week. We?d say the home ground advantage could be a deciding factor ? except they?ve lost three of five games at home so far.

Having said that? we have a hunch this could be the Titans? night. You?ve been warned.

Match Officials: Referees ? Gavin Badger & Adam Devcich; Sideline Officials ? Michael Wise & Henry Perenara; Video Ref ? Chris Ward.

Televised: Fox Sports ? Live 7pm.

thelwall
12-05-11, 12:02 PM
come on boys we need this one

Rage
12-05-11, 03:43 PM
Surely the boys are fired up after last weeks loss, on paper they can win this

DIEHARD
12-05-11, 05:10 PM
Gold Coast Titans v Manly Sea Eagles
Skilled Park, Gold Coast, Monday 7pm (AEST)

Stats: Head-to-head
Referees: Gavin Badger, Adam Devcic
TV: Live, FoxSports 2

Greg Prichard writes: The Titans are a shadow of the team that made the finals the last two years. They are trying hard to stick at it, and have at least won three of their last six games after losing each of their first three, but it has been a struggle. None of their wins has been comfortable. In one of them they stole victory from not just the jaws of defeat against the Raiders, it was already being digested, and a late try got them home against the Tigers. Even in their 24-13 win over the Roosters they were behind inside the last 20 minutes.

The Titans have a lot of older players on their roster, and have already made moves to bring the average age of their squad down by signing Jamal Idris and Luke Douglas for next season. But the challenge of trying to get something real happening this season remains, and they were sat on their backsides when the Warriors thrashed them on the Gold Coast last weekend. The Titans are 2-3 at home this season, and the Sea Eagles are 2-3 away. The Sea Eagles have won four of their last five, and their defence has been solid recently.

TITANS: Preston Campbell, Steve Michaels, Esi Tonga, Bodene Thompson, David Mead, William Zillman, Scott Prince, Luke Bailey, Riley Brown, Matthew White, Greg Bird, Mark Minichiello, Ashley Harrison. Interchange: Michael Henderson, Ryan James, Ben Ridge, Luke O'Dwyer, Kayne Lawton (one to be omitted).

SEA EAGLES: Brett Stewart, Michael Robertson, Jamie Lyon (capt), Steve Matai, Will Hopoate, Kieran Foran, Daly Cherry-Evans, Jason King (capt), Matt Ballin, Brent Kite, Anthony Watmough, Joe Galuvao, Glenn Stewart. Interchange: Vic Mauro, Jamie Buhrer, George Rose, Tony Williams, Tim Robinson (one to be omitted).


http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/

DIEHARD
12-05-11, 05:16 PM
Brett Kimmorley's Round 10 Preview

Gold Coast Titans v Manly, Skilled Park, Monday 7pm (EST)

Noddy says: Brett Stewart wasn't near 100 per cent against the Raiders but he still showed his brilliant football instincts by popping up to score three tries. Manly need their fullback to play each week because he is often the difference between them winning and losing. I continue to be impressed by the growing halves combination of Kieran Foran and Daly Cherry-Evans. Gold Coast Titans have been very hit and miss this season. I think a few internal dramas have arisen with some of their players set to leave at season's end. It's a real changing of the guard for Gold Coast and I don't think they are handling it very well. Tip: Manly

Source: http://www.foxsports.com.au

isaiah
12-05-11, 06:15 PM
i dnt get y its unchanged
is he ever going to change it up? how many more games do we need to loose b4 we see other guys given a go....

sorry, but you are supporting the wrong team if you want others given a go, has yet to happen in their short history

Steelers
12-05-11, 06:58 PM
So with Bailey back who is likely to drop out of the 17? Will Lawton drop off or will Riley Brown finally get the boot? Considering Carty is the one making the decision my money is on Riley Brown to remain in the 9 all season :laugh:

smithers12345
12-05-11, 07:51 PM
If Riley Brown remains in the 9, the titans will most definetly not make the 8, in my opinion

I think Tomane, Walker and Lawton must be injected into our side, IT NEEDS TO CHANGE! am i the only titans fan in the world who realizes that it needs to change or what?!?!?!

1. Walker
2. Mead
3. Tomane
4. Tonga
5. Michaels
6. Zillman
7. Prince
8. Bailey
9. Lawton
10. White/Henderson
11. Bird
12. Minichello
13. Harrison

14. White/Henderson
15. Thompson
16. Tagatease/Ridge
17. Campbell

i dont care if anyone disagrees with my team but thats what i think we need if we are going to have any chance to making the 8!

titansrawesome
12-05-11, 07:55 PM
If Riley Brown remains in the 9, the titans will most definetly not make the 8, in my opinion

I think Tomane, Walker and Lawton must be injected into our side, IT NEEDS TO CHANGE! am i the only titans fan in the world who realizes that it needs to change or what?!?!?!

1. Walker
2. Mead
3. Tomane
4. Tonga
5. Michaels
6. Zillman
7. Prince
8. Bailey
9. Lawton
10. White/Henderson
11. Bird
12. Minichello
13. Harrison

14. White/Henderson
15. Thompson
16. Tagatease/Ridge
17. Campbell

i dont care if anyone disagrees with my team but thats what i think we need if we are going to have any chance to making the 8!

we all know, but we also know carty never changes the team no point digresses over it now

DIEHARD
12-05-11, 07:58 PM
Smithers, Im definitely leaning towards your team.

Preston needs to be there, on the bench as the super sub works. It's difficult to drop Thompson to the bench for me. But I can see why you did that, it's the only way Tomane will get a shot.

I'd back just Shannon Walker and Lawton for the run on for the time being. And hold off on Tomane for the time being.

AmericanTitan
13-05-11, 03:36 AM
I don't like dropping Thompson out of the 13. He's been one of the bright spots so far I think, but like DIEHARD said, I can see why you'd do it to get Tomane in.

Anyway you slice it something has to change.

In the words of Albert Einstein: 'Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

Surfers6
13-05-11, 07:59 AM
Good side but where is James, he would be on the bench for me.

Rage
13-05-11, 01:27 PM
Agree, I'd def like a bench spot reserved for James

DIEHARD
13-05-11, 03:27 PM
Manly preview from their website

Match Preview - Sea Eagles vs Titans

Hooker Matt Ballin will play his 100th NRL game this Monday night against the Gold Coast Titans.

Ballin made his debut for the Sea Eagles in 2007 and has been a standout player for the Sea Eagles in the #9 jersey ever since.

Coming off a 20-0 win against the Raiders, the Sea Eagles have one last chance for a win before heading into the BYE. And if successful at Skilled Park, a top four spot on the NRL ladder will be secure for another week.

Despite Jason King being named in the side, he will undergo fitness testing prior to the match on Monday .

Youngster Will Hopate, who celebrated his 19th birthday in last week?s win will again start on the wing. Brett Stewart returned in spectacular form last week, scoring a hat-trick after a five games on the sideline due to a hamstring injury. After backing up ok, members and fans will be hoping he can again execute a performance like that against the Titans.

Stewart didn?t train early this week but this is part of his now normal match day preparation. He expects to play against the Titans who have openly declared this match as a possible turning point in what has been a disappointing opening two months to the season.

Manly Skipper Jamie Lyon said the Sea Eagles are expecting a torrid encounter.

?They were a top four side last year and have too many class players not to hit form shortly and we will need to be at our best to win.?

Daly Cherry-Evans is confident coming into the match despite facing an up and down Titans side.

?Week in week out you have to be on your game. They may not be travelling too well at the moment but they were a top four side last year so you?ve got to be careful.

?As long as we?re on I think we?ll go pretty well.?

Cherry-Evans will again line up with a class half-back when he faces Scott Prince, something he?s looking forward to.

?Week after week I seem to be facing the top half backs and it?s a really good experience that I?m enjoying.

?Each week gives me more confidence especially playing alongside all these good players we?ve got in our team.

I can be throwing short balls or long balls to Jamie Lyon and Glenn Stewart and that says enough in itself the side I get to play with.?

Kick off is at 7pm at Skilled Park

http://www.mwse.com.au/

GoldCoastTitans100
13-05-11, 04:31 PM
Maybe Carty is playing mind games this week :rolleyes:

Tamwelg
15-05-11, 09:19 AM
@joe_tomane29 set to play his first NRL game of the year. Looks like he will partner @Meady41 on the right. Bodene Thompson not training.
Twitter for iPhone ? 15/05/11 10:10

Titan_Blue
15-05-11, 09:29 AM
What Twitter is that?

Coaster
15-05-11, 09:30 AM
@joe_tomane29 set to play his first NRL game of the year. Looks like he will partner @Meady41 on the right. Bodene Thompson not training.
Twitter for iPhone ? 15/05/11 10:10

Who tweeted that mate?

Tamwelg
15-05-11, 10:02 AM
Who tweeted that mate?

Oops thought I included that.

Luke Turgeon

Rage
15-05-11, 10:05 AM
Hope its true although I read nothing about it in the paper this morning. All it said was Ridge wouldn't be playing and Lawton probably starting off bench

Tamwelg
15-05-11, 10:07 AM
Tweeted by @NRLNEWS

RR: It has been confirmed. Brett Stewart out of MNF, along with Jason King. Hoppa to fullback, and Wolfy to the wing.
web • 15/05/11 10:44

TitansFan2020
15-05-11, 11:55 AM
ok now im pumped for tomane

TitansFan2020
15-05-11, 11:56 AM
well ijust heard from tamwelg that he saw a tweet saying bodene was not at training and tomane was set for first game of the season now im pumped :) :):)

titansrawesome
15-05-11, 12:14 PM
well ijust heard from tamwelg that he saw a tweet saying bodene was not at training and tomane was set for first game of the season now im pumped :) :):)

still dont believe it

Titanmudgee
15-05-11, 12:46 PM
It's Tomane time

teke
15-05-11, 12:53 PM
Definite starter along side Mead :thumbsup:

Titanmudgee
15-05-11, 01:04 PM
Tomane definetly playing it will be his chance to cement his rightful spot if he nails it tomorrow night. Will be good to have him under the high ball

titansrawesome
15-05-11, 01:08 PM
put him near tony williams or hopoate because they can fly

Rage
15-05-11, 03:39 PM
Here's his chance, let's see what he does with it

GoldCoastTitans100
15-05-11, 05:20 PM
Carty will find some ridicules reason to not play Tomane

Mushi
15-05-11, 05:29 PM
Now to see if his action in QLD cup can match up to NRL standards - time to prove himself in the team - go for it Tomane!

Nick
15-05-11, 05:31 PM
...Walker didnt play for Tweed

GoldCoastTitans100
15-05-11, 05:35 PM
...Walker didnt play for Tweed

Carty will play Walker at centre then say he didn't perform and drop him again.

Blazertaser
15-05-11, 05:41 PM
Wheres the source that Tomane is playing?

Mushi
15-05-11, 06:42 PM
Stewart out of Manly NRL clash with the Titans

Not even Manly losing Brett Stewart could bring a smile from Gold Coast coach John Cartwright, ahead of a Monday night NRL clash he has labelled a "must win".

Capping an eventful week for Stewart, the former Test fullback was on Sunday ruled out of the Skilled Park clash after succumbing to a hamstring strain.

The second-last Titans had been steeling themselves for a pumped-up Stewart, after he came under fire for appearing to mock NRL boss David Gallop with his celebration during his three-try outing against Canberra last round.

Will Hopoate switches from wing to fill Stewart's spot at fullback, with ex-Test rep David Williams coming into the vacant wing spot.

Cartwright had his own concerns with the fitness of centre Bodene Thompson (virus) and trying to turn his team's form, after they slumped to a 3-6 record with last round's 34-14 Skilled Park loss to the Warriors.

Joseph Tomane is on standby for Thompson who will receive a final verdict an hour before kick-off.

While Manly might be reeling from Stewart's omission, the Titans are the ones feeling the pinch and they are 2-3 at home this season.

"It's a must win. Mentally, it is very important that we win ahead of our bye," Cartwright said.

"The competition table can slip away from you.

"We are not in a good position as far as that is concerned and we haven't been playing to our potential - that's the main concern.

"If we were playing decent football and we were losing, then you know it is going to turn for you, but we haven't been in great form consistently this year. But we are aware of that."

Titans interchange forward Ben Ridge appears to have overcome a shoulder complaint, while Manly co-captain Jason King (rib) also looks to have received the green light.


source: nrl.com.au

thelwall
15-05-11, 06:44 PM
the boys will have fun stopping hoppa , good on tomane good luck to him

Tamwelg
15-05-11, 07:09 PM
...Walker didnt play for Tweed

He wasn't named to play for Tweed at the start of the week either, which if not named for Tirans would usually mean he was injured. Does anyone know if he is injured.

What I find more interesting is Lawton played for Tweed today. Brown is not an 80 min hooker. Walker fullback and Campbell bench hooker, Chalky to share to hooker role, or Srama to make his debut and share the hooker role.

Tagatese was named to play for the Hets at the start of the week, but he to did not play today. So it may even be that Taga comes in for Ridge, who is nursing a niggle, with Odwyer sharing the hooking.

Nick
15-05-11, 07:15 PM
Ahh i didnt realise Walker wasnt named in the first place. Lawton had a good game today. Its pretty disappointing not to see him in the top grade.. Chalky sharing sounds probable, but it could be Sramas time? Im excited to see who plays regardless!! Nothing better than a bit of mystery :P

Rage
15-05-11, 07:46 PM
Agree all this uncertainty about whos lining up actually makes it far more interesting for me, can't wait

GoldCoastTitans100
15-05-11, 07:51 PM
He wasn't named to play for Tweed at the start of the week either, which if not named for Tirans would usually mean he was injured. Does anyone know if he is injured.

What I find more interesting is Lawton played for Tweed today. Brown is not an 80 min hooker. Walker fullback and Campbell bench hooker, Chalky to share to hooker role, or Srama to make his debut and share the hooker role.

Tagatese was named to play for the Hets at the start of the week, but he to did not play today. So it may even be that Taga comes in for Ridge, who is nursing a niggle, with Odwyer sharing the hooking.

Odwyer sharing hooker = disaster

I like the 1. Walker 17. Campell idea the most, if campell got injured i would pick Chalk tbh

TITAN PETE
15-05-11, 08:00 PM
Odwyer sharing hooker = disaster

I like the 1. Walker 17. Campell idea the most, if campell got injured i would pick Chalk tbh

Chalky is the best Utility player in the Squad , Walker is injured :surprise:

teke
15-05-11, 08:30 PM
Tomane is going to be under the pump big time tomorrow night, Manlys shift to the left is one of the best in the league. It could be a short return to 1st grade if he is not on his game.

titansrawesome
15-05-11, 08:31 PM
Tomane is going to be under the pump big time tomorrow night, Manlys shift to the left is one of the best in the league. It could be a short return to 1st grade if he is not on his game.

who are manly's centres again, its oldfield and matai right?

teke
15-05-11, 08:38 PM
who are manly's centres again, its oldfield and matai right?No, it's Jamie Lyons and Matai.

Foran linking with Matai/Watmough/Fuhrer down the left corridor is very dangerous. However I have a good feeling about tomorrows game. If Tomane plays like Bo and gives early ball to Mead it could be on :D

titansrawesome
15-05-11, 09:00 PM
No, it's Jamie Lyons and Matai.

Foran linking with Matai/Watmough/Fuhrer down the left corridor is very dangerous. However I have a good feeling about tomorrows game. If Tomane plays like Bo and gives early ball to Mead it could be on :D

i already know he is gonna be devastating in attack i just want to see how well he does in defense against a very hot to handle team

teke
15-05-11, 09:04 PM
i already know he is gonna be devastating in attack i just want to see how well he does in defense against a very hot to handle teamHe is going to playing wing a little bit in attack. Mead is going to get a couple of cracks at Matai especially if the game opens up

GoldCoastTitans100
15-05-11, 10:43 PM
Chalky is the best Utility player in the Squad , Walker is injured :surprise:

Chalky has not impressed me in a long time.... he isn't that good

patskE
16-05-11, 08:54 AM
ahahahahahhaahhaha
yep love carty
player have to be sick/injuryed for someone to get a go. amazing

Surfers6
16-05-11, 11:35 AM
It would be great to have Tomane in at centre.
if thompson is okay to play i would add him to the bench minus ODwyer/Ridge.

Tamwelg
16-05-11, 11:40 AM
Confirmed by @GCTitans on Teitter

Titans News- Bodene Thompson officially ruled out. Replaced by @joe_tomane29 for his first match of the year. #gctitans
Echofon • 16/05/11 12:30

Surfers6
16-05-11, 11:44 AM
I have been calling for tomane to be added for over a month.
Lets see how he goes and lets hope he has a bllinder.

Boofhead
16-05-11, 11:47 AM
Confirmed by @GCTitans on Teitter

Titans News- Bodene Thompson officially ruled out. Replaced by @joe_tomane29 for his first match of the year. #gctitans
Echofon ? 16/05/11 12:30

Here is his chance, don't blow it Joey!

Rage
16-05-11, 12:04 PM
Everyone here wants to see him absolutely rip it up tonight, good luck Tomane

Titan_Blue
16-05-11, 12:15 PM
Matai will be a bloody tough test for Tomane, he is up there with the best of them at running the right lines.

If he can hold his own in defence I'm sure he will deliver in attack, even if he doesn't break the line. He will bust tackles and make metres like no one has in our backline this year.

AmericanTitan
16-05-11, 12:17 PM
good luck Joe!

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 12:35 PM
CMON JOEY. lol i hope he is on matais side because matai is always injured and tomane will cripple him if thats anything to go by.

Boofhead
16-05-11, 12:42 PM
Just bought some tickets... PAX was at 12300.

Titan_Blue
16-05-11, 01:34 PM
Tomane in second chance to save career
Jamie Gallagher | May 16th, 2011

COMEBACK kid Joseph Tomane has been told to play his own game if thrown a career lifeline against Manly tonight.

Not seen in the NRL since Round 13 last year, Tomane was a notable addition to the Gold Coast Titans' ranks during the side's final training run at Skilled Park yesterday.

The 21-year-old replaced flu-stricken centre Bodene Thompson on the right side and showed all the signs he was ready for a second bite at the NRL.

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Tomane looked like he had never left the side as he returned to his post inside speedster David Mead.

However with his contract up at season's end, there's a little extra riding on tonight's performance and coach John Cartwright said Tomane must concentrate on playing to his strengths.

"Joey's a strong runner of the ball, he can break tackles and he's good under the high ball," Cartwright said.

"I want him to go out there and play his own game.

"He's a natural right centre, he's played plenty of football there and I expect he'll slot right in."

Tomane was one of the most highly touted juniors to emerge through the Melbourne ranks in 2008-09 before signing with the Titans. Mimicking a young Mal Meninga, the 190cm, 106kg strike-weapon crossed for seven tries in 11 appearances last year before a season-ending shoulder injury against Canberra.

He also forged a formidable partnership with Mead and Cartwright hopes they can rekindle the old flame tonight.

"Joey played a number of games inside Meady last year which certainly helps," Cartwright said.

"They were a good combination for us and hopefully they can click again."

Defensively, though, the pair left a lot to be desired and Tomane was seemingly blamed for their leaky ways.

At the start of the season he was over-looked for veteran Kiwi Clinton Toopi and more recently for the defence-minded Thompson.

However Cartwright was adamant he didn't want Tomane trying to fill anyone's boots but his own.

"When Joey gets his defence right, he's a big hitter," Cartwright said.

"But I don't expect him to play the way Bodene does. I want him to concentrate on his strengths."

Cartwright said Thompson had until this morning to declare his availability.

Skipper Scott Prince said Tomane deserved every opportunity to reignite his fledgling career.

"Joey's been playing outstanding football in state league and has been training the house down here," Prince said.

http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2011/05/16/315575_gold-coast-titans.html

DIEHARD
16-05-11, 01:51 PM
Well here we go, Im looking forward to this! Tomane will get his chance but he will also be surely targeted. But I back him.

I can't wait for tonight's game. I'm desperate for those points.

DIEHARD
16-05-11, 03:15 PM
Halfback Scott Prince critical to lifting Gold Coast Titans against Manly Sea Eagles

OUT-OF-SORTS Gold Coast halfback Scott Prince has been urged to recapture his running game on Monday night to ignite the Titans' teetering premiership campaign.

The Titans face a daunting showdown against the high-flying Sea Eagles, who will finish the round entrenched in the top four with victory at Skilled Park.

With the Coast languishing in 14th spot with three wins from nine games, Prince is under mounting pressure to return to his lethal best.

The former Maroons playmaker has made one line break in 640 minutes of football this season, but gave a glimpse of his class in round 6 when he orchestrated the Titans' 20-14 upset of Wests Tigers.

Former Test halfback Greg Alexander said it was time for Prince to back himself against the Sea Eagles.

Coach John Cartwright's side will be desperate to hit back after last week's 34-14 home drubbing against the Warriors.

"I'd like to see him getting back to running the footy," Alexander said.

"He doesn't miss a beat with his kicking and passing, but the Titans need Scott Prince running and creating oppor-tunities for other players.

"He's played a couple of good games and I saw both of them.

"He did well against the Roosters (in the Titans' 24-13 win in round 8) and he was great against the Tigers, but we probably haven't seen the standard we're used to from Scotty.

"Prince always plays his best football when he runs the footy.

"He's done it so many times in the past and there's no reason why he can't do it again.

"I wouldn't be surprised with the pressure that's been on the club if Princey comes out and has a big game against the Sea Eagles."

There have been some mitigating factors behind Prince's form.

He battled a hamstring injury early and has had to work with multiple scrumbase partners this season, the latest being William Zillman.

"Not having a regular six is another factor and that all adds up to helping a halfback play his best," Alexander said.

"If the Titans forwards can stand up against Manly, that will give Prince the platform to take the line on."

Manly fullback Brett Stewart has been ruled out of the clash after succumbing to a hamstring strain.

Will Hopoate switches from wing to fill Stewart's spot at fullback, with ex-Test rep David Williams coming into the vacant wing spot.

Titan Joseph Tomane is on standby for centre Bodene Thompson (virus).

Titans interchange forward Ben Ridge appears to have overcome a shoulder complaint, while Manly co-captain Jason King (rib) also looks to have received the green light.

"It's a must win. Mentally, it is very important that we win ahead of our bye," Cartwright told AAP.

Source: http://www.couriermail.com.au

thelwall
16-05-11, 05:39 PM
tonights side is
1. Preston Campbell
2. Steve Michaels
3. Esi Tonga
19. Joseph Tomane
5. David Mead
6. William Zillman
7. Scott Prince
8. Luke Bailey
9. Riley Brown
14. Michael Henderson
11. Greg Bird
12. Mark Minichiello
13. Ashley Harrison
Interchange:
10. Matt White
15. Ryan James
17. Luke O'Dwyer
20. Sam Tagataese



so nrl.com says :)

Supergoose
16-05-11, 05:54 PM
Good luck Joe. Let's put in a good one and make it a permanent thing!

patskE
16-05-11, 05:58 PM
yeh bridge has been ruled out, saw it on the gc fb taga in

CairnsTitan
16-05-11, 06:31 PM
daley needs to be hit by a truck, can not stand this guy

Nick
16-05-11, 06:50 PM
Tomane has looked better since that first massive blunder. Michaels shouldnt have come in for that first try.. Browns deliveries from dummy have been terrible and behind the 1st receiver!? Harrison has been ok except for those play the balls! Lawton would have been a better option than taga, he really doesnt offer much in these fast paced games in the nrl.

How good is James though?

teke
16-05-11, 06:52 PM
This game is like watching an accident in slow mo.

Terrible structure in attack, bad passing and more errors :nope:

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 06:52 PM
everyone is playing good bar that inbicile brown and harrison cant hang on to the ball, taga and tomane are very good replacements and chalky has looked good at hooker. but brown is a momentum killer and prince looks good taking on the line and james a beast

gotitans101
16-05-11, 06:55 PM
Tomane has been very good apart from that second try by Manly where he stupidly rushed off his line to make a tackle that didn't need to be made.

Agree Brown is a complete momentum killer...god, it's watch watching the game in slowmo when he has the ball. Harro not having a good night. Otherwise, I'm pretty happy with the performance so far.

Nick
16-05-11, 07:13 PM
Taga had a great defensive spell this second half. Great to see his hits come off.

CairnsTitan
16-05-11, 07:22 PM
man our attack is bad

CairnsTitan
16-05-11, 07:26 PM
it was just a one time thing from preston hey boys, the pensioner shouldn't be playing 80mins

CairnsTitan
16-05-11, 07:29 PM
prince :laugh: :laugh:

gotitans101
16-05-11, 07:33 PM
Tonga in.

But we don't deserve to win this.

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 07:46 PM
brown needs to go and chalk at 9, other than that henderson dropped for thompson

Dopamine
16-05-11, 07:48 PM
Wow its so frustrating watching them play.. My team for next week

1. Zillman
2.micheals
3. Tonga
4. Tomane
5. Mead
6. Capewell/campbell
7. Prince
8. Bailey
9. Lawton
10. James
11. Mini
12. Bird
13. Harrison
14. Henderson
15. Chalky
16. White
17. Campbell

Zillmans passing seems slomo.... Need a five eight playing @ 6 not a fullback

thelwall
16-05-11, 07:55 PM
taga just f....ked people up , that was good to watch ahhaha

Tamwelg
16-05-11, 08:00 PM
Sorry in advance to all the Tomane lovers. I was really hoping he had fixed his defense because he is one of the best ball runners in the game IMO, but sadly it is not there yet.

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 08:02 PM
Wow its so frustrating watching them play.. My team for next week

1. Zillman
2.micheals
3. Tonga
4. Tomane
5. Mead
6. Capewell/campbell
7. Prince
8. Bailey
9. Lawton
10. James
11. Mini
12. Bird
13. Harrison
14. Henderson
15. Chalky
16. White
17. Campbell

Zillmans passing seems slomo.... Need a five eight playing @ 6 not a fullback

your crazy taga should be first picked like i have always said human heat seeking missle.

1.walker
2.michaels
3.tonga
4.mead
5.tomane
6.zillman
7.prince(i know)
8.james
9.o dwyer
10.bailey
11.minnechello
12.harrison
13.bird
14.tagatese
15.thompson
16.white
17.campbell

gotitans101
16-05-11, 08:02 PM
Sorry in advance to all the Tomane lovers. I was really hoping he had fixed his defense because he is one of the best ball runners in the game IMO, but sadly it is not there yet.

Couldn't agree more. Preston was average again tonight too (and I admit, I was one of the people willing to give him another shot :( )

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 08:03 PM
Sorry in advance to all the Tomane lovers. I was really hoping he had fixed his defense because he is one of the best ball runners in the game IMO, but sadly it is not there yet.

i dont think it was that bad he made some really good tackles, i still think he needs to be on the wing though and mead at centre it would be better imo, and thompson can go into the backrow

Titan_Blue
16-05-11, 08:03 PM
Sorry in advance to all the Tomane lovers. I was really hoping he had fixed his defense because he is one of the best ball runners in the game IMO, but sadly it is not there yet.

Yep, no arguments here.

Very disappointing.

teke
16-05-11, 08:04 PM
To those who said Tomane was good...WHAT!!!

He was below useless.

Super_Matt
16-05-11, 08:09 PM
I'm sure you were talking him up too :p

Quite frankly, he cost us the match

CairnsTitan
16-05-11, 08:09 PM
To those who said Tomane was good...WHAT!!!

He was below useless.

while we are going we can add Harrison, prince and presto to the list

Tamwelg
16-05-11, 08:10 PM
Couldn't agree more. Preston was average again tonight too (and I admit, I was one of the people willing to give him another shot :( )

Yeah I wanted him to be given another shot as well, but not as intently as others. He had his shot and blown it and I doubt will be given anther with the Titans again.

Super_Matt
16-05-11, 08:10 PM
i dont think it was that bad he made some really good tackles, i still think he needs to be on the wing though and mead at centre it would be better imo, and thompson can go into the backrow

Agree. On the wing in QLD cup

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 08:12 PM
To those who said Tomane was good...WHAT!!!

He was below useless.

he made 2 errors the whole night and this wasnt even close to the best tomane we can see, this one looked unmotivated and tired from the get go and looked liked it just wasnt his night, he should be placed on the wing anyways and have mead at centre it works out a lot better.

CairnsTitan
16-05-11, 08:13 PM
Prince cost us the game with his piss poor passing/organising, non existant kicking game and being a speedbump in defence

Super_Matt
16-05-11, 08:14 PM
he made 2 errors the whole night and this wasnt even close to the best tomane we can see, this one looked unmotivated and tired from the get go and looked liked it just wasnt his night, he should be placed on the wing anyways and have mead at centre it works out a lot better.

2 errors = 2 tries. Co-incidence? i think not. He was the direct fault of us losing the game

teke
16-05-11, 08:15 PM
while we are going we can add Harrison, prince and presto to the listNo no and maybe but no.

That was far from Prince's worst game, Harro made 50 tackles and Presto didnt do too much.

Im all for changes now as the season is gone :doh: :laugh:

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 08:17 PM
Prince cost us the game with his piss poor passing/organising, non existant kicking game and being a speedbump in defence

this. prince was good for only one second when he got his try by going to the line, he is in a bad funk that he cant seem to get out of.

teke
16-05-11, 08:17 PM
he made 2 errors the whole night and this wasnt even close to the best tomane we can see, this one looked unmotivated and tired from the get go and looked liked it just wasnt his night, he should be placed on the wing anyways and have mead at centre it works out a lot better.I have been hinting around the topic all year. Tomane played exactly like he has this year in Q Cup.

CairnsTitan
16-05-11, 08:17 PM
How good would it be seeing walker hovering around the ball player because there was a few times there bird got his arms free but no one to pass to

Super_Matt
16-05-11, 08:18 PM
Harro's play the balls were laugh-able.

Preston's gotta go onto the bench. You see the good fullbacks (Dugan, McKinnon, Hayne, Fishiiahi etc) all running tight on the forward hit-ups, looking for an offload to burst away on.

Preston was just hanging out in the backline, sorta like a 5/8th

Titan_Blue
16-05-11, 08:19 PM
I cannot fathom how someone can struggle so much to read in defence.

It was an issue for Tomane last year and one he was made well aware of. We know his attacking ability, but his defence was threatening his career.

You'd think he would have sorted out. If he had he would be a gun.

I was calling for him to get another shot, and I don't regret that. He deserved another chance to prove himself.

But after tonight, I won't be pushing for him again.

What a shame, what a wasted talent.

teke
16-05-11, 08:21 PM
Harro's play the balls were laugh-able.

Preston's gotta go onto the bench. You see the good fullbacks (Dugan, McKinnon, Hayne, Fishiiahi etc) all running tight on the forward hit-ups, looking for an offload to burst away on.

Preston was just hanging out in the backline, sorta like a 5/8thIm gonna say it 1st. I think Presto should call it quits right now.

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 08:23 PM
I cannot fathom how someone can struggle so much to read in defence.

It was an issue for Tomane last year and one he was made well aware of. We know his attacking ability, but his defence was threatening his career.

You'd think he would have sorted out. If he had he would be a gun.

I was calling for him to get another shot, and I don't regret that. He deserved another chance to prove himself.

But after tonight, I won't be pushing for him again.

What a shame, what a wasted talent.

just shift him to the wing, different ball game then, he played wing for the storm and never ever had and problems in defense there and scored lots, despite his patchy game i dont regret trying with him tonight too and he should be given another 2 games. hell i was right about tagatese wasn't I?

CairnsTitan
16-05-11, 08:26 PM
gotta give foran credit though, one of the toughest players in the game

Super_Matt
16-05-11, 08:27 PM
just shift him to the wing, different ball game then, he played wing for the storm and never ever had and problems in defense there and scored lots, despite his patchy game i dont regret trying with him tonight too and he should be given another 2 games. hell i was right about tagatese wasn't I?

LOL. Worst logic ever. I'm right about Tagatese, so i must be right about Tomane.

Mead and Michaels are in top form, get ****ed if you want to drop one of them for a bloke who can't read defense for ****, has no aerial skills, and just looked like he didn't really want to be there tonight

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 08:32 PM
LOL. Worst logic ever. I'm right about Tagatese, so i must be right about Tomane.

Mead and Michaels are in top form, get ****ed if you want to drop one of them for a bloke who can't read defense for ****, has no aerial skills, and just looked like he didn't really want to be there tonight

ok you go tell him when they train at runaway bay how **** he is since you know how good his skills are, im debating with someone who doesnt look for any solutions

teke
16-05-11, 08:33 PM
On a good note.

Bird and Esi were great. Esi's form has improved every game he has played this year. Bird looked calm and confident out on the left and made inrows every time he touched it

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 08:38 PM
On a good note.

Bird and Esi were great. Esi's form has improved every game he has played this year. Bird looked calm and confident out on the left and made inrows every time he touched it

TAGA was great and so was james and chalky too, who said chalky should be hooker was correct and they deserve a standing ovation

Chaos
16-05-11, 08:40 PM
I didn't watch the game...how did we go around the ruck...was our dummy half pulling the markers away from our runners?
Any in roads up the middle?
How did Zillman play?

gotitans101
16-05-11, 08:41 PM
On a good note.

Bird and Esi were great. Esi's form has improved every game he has played this year. Bird looked calm and confident out on the left and made inrows every time he touched it

Esi puts on a great performance week-in, week-out, we've really dropped the ball on this bloke, I'll be shattered to see him leave the club.

teke
16-05-11, 08:41 PM
TAGA was great and so was james and chalky too, who said chalky should be hooker was correct and they deserve a standing ovationTaga was great in defence and I was laughing the whole time he was out there. Stick him in for Hendo

CairnsTitan
16-05-11, 08:42 PM
as good as Tagatese's hits were, he would get found out quick smart

teke
16-05-11, 08:43 PM
I didn't watch the game...how did we go around the ruck...was our dummy half pulling the markers away from our runners?
Any in roads up the middle?
How did Zillman play?Around the ruck, probably up with one of the worst games this year and that is saying something. Matt White did some good hit ups and Bailey was Bailey as per usual

Tamwelg
16-05-11, 08:43 PM
Guys calm down heated debate is fine, but you are treading on thin ice be respectful, watch you language and make sure you don't make it personal. You gave been warned.

teke
16-05-11, 08:44 PM
as good as Tagatese's hits were, he would get found out quick smartFound out like he has most times he has defended a little wide of the ruck.

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 08:44 PM
Taga was great in defence and I was laughing the whole time he was out there. Stick him in for Hendo

agreed i also forgot tonga was great too bar the handling errors, walker could come in for campbell i reckon but it wont happen, and thompson on the bench for hendo, taga had at least 6 hits in his 30 minutes playing time.

Tamwelg
16-05-11, 08:44 PM
On a good note.

Bird and Esi were great. Esi's form has improved every game he has played this year. Bird looked calm and confident out on the left and made inrows every time he touched it

Agreed.

Chaos
16-05-11, 08:51 PM
Around the ruck, probably up with one of the worst games this year and that is saying something. Matt White did some good hit ups and Bailey was Bailey as per usual

If we want to be competitive...we have to get that dummy half right before we move on to other positions.
There is a lot of talk about, who should be in the centres but it's probably the last position we should be looking at.

Massive_Weno
16-05-11, 08:52 PM
An incredibly frustrating game to watch tonight! I do not quite understand how in rd10 professional players can not seem to pass the ball. While our attack looked ordinary and may have been ordinary regardless of the passing, so many of the passes were going behind players or to ground.

Agree with all that Riley Brown is not offering us anything. He moves in slow motion out of defence. If Lawton and Srama are being considered the future hooker elects i would like to see them given a go... i thought Lawton held his own in the small game time he was given recently. However i have full faith in Carty's selection decisions and will support the team that he puts onto the field.

It became quite clear tonight that it has taken several injuries for Tomane to be given another go as his defence has not improved in the slightest. For those saying he looked ok after his horror read you really need to watch a replay of the game! The only reason he looked ok for the next 30 or so minutes was because Tagataese was defending out on our right hand edge! Taga was putting brilliant hits on the Eagles and they were not getting any decent ball out there. The difference Taga made to that right hand edge was further emphasised when he went off the field. They returned to attacking there and scored a try immediately with Matai putting on a simple left foot step and beating Tomane. This forced Carty to switch Greg Bird from left to right side defence until he finally brought Taga back on. I believe Tomane has the potential and would like to see him stay at the club, however, he needs to put in the hard yards and practice his defence. I hope the Titans coaches will help him out and work long and hard with Tomane to improve his defence.

Enough negatives...How good was TAGA!!!! He was a human wrecking ball tonight! At one stage he had Stewart, Foran and Cherry Evans all feeling sore and struggling. It was great to watch and i also noticed how the whole Titans team seemed to lift when Taga came onto the field. Its a shame he got tired and went off as while he was on the field tonight i am pretty sure Titans were the better team by a margin of 12-0. Bull Bailey, Greg Bird and Ryan James were also outstanding tonight. Thought Bird had his best game of the season tonight. All in all there is plenty to work on but there are some positive signs heading forward. We'll get there soon boys!

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 08:53 PM
If we want to be competitive...we have to get that dummy half right before we move on to other positions.
There is a lot of talk about, who should be in the centres but it's probably the last position we should be looking at.

chalky in for brown, we were going so good when it was like that but then carty put brown back on :(

Chaos
16-05-11, 08:56 PM
chalky in for brown, we were going so good when it was like that but then carty put brown back on :(

Sorry titansrawesome...I just don't see chalky in such a valuable position.

CairnsTitan
16-05-11, 08:59 PM
Sorry titansrawesome...I just don't see chalky in such a valuable position.

This, wouldn't be much better then brown

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 09:03 PM
This, wouldn't be much better then brown

he was playing good at hooker tonight though, but if not him then i think srama should get a shot, lawton is another good one but FFS no more brown please

TITAN PETE
16-05-11, 09:04 PM
Bird was brilliant , Tag & James were awesome off the bench & Foran must be thinking "Why is he Picking on Me" :fight: , Tomane had moments, Esi was great & he must be re-signed , Chalky (who was who said they don't rate him) made the side quicker when he came on at 9 & his defense is great :fist:

The bad parts of the game were Harro was very average, Presto looks Old & I believe we have possibly the worst defensive Halfback in the game & his attack isn't much better...

Tag was dropped & look what he did tonight maybe others need a stint in the Qld Cup for a few weeks as time is just about gone for this season :nope:

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 09:07 PM
Bird was brilliant , Tag & James were awesome off the bench & Foran must be thinking "Why is he Picking on Me" :fight: , Tomane had moments, Esi was great & he must be re-signed , Chalky (who was who said they don't rate him) made the side quicker when he came on at 9 & his defense is great :fist:

The bad parts of the game were Harro was very average, Presto looks Old & I believe we have possibly the worst defensive Halfback in the game & his attack isn't much better...

Tag was dropped & look what he did tonight maybe others need a stint in the Qld Cup for a few weeks as time is just about gone for this season :nope:


good analogy Pete, we lost to a very good manly side who is 3rd place by 4 points and if not for another dud prince kick we may have won it.

thelwall
16-05-11, 09:32 PM
i disagree with people saying prince cost us the game , he did quite alot of good things but people only seem to remember the bad, he needs a 5/8 who can kick , ffs to much pressure on him , like ive said before at least find someone who can kick at 5/8

titansrawesome
16-05-11, 09:36 PM
i disagree with people saying prince cost us the game , he did quite alot of good things but people only seem to remember the bad, he needs a 5/8 who can kick , ffs to much pressure on him , like ive said before at least find someone who can kick at 5/8

or make bird lock and 2nd kicker he has a massive boot on him

Supergoose
16-05-11, 10:33 PM
Agree with the assessments of Taga, James and Bailey they were simply great. Bird also played well. Esi was good too and White played well but that's pretty much where it ends for me. Tomane was disappointing and I think he is a winger. Preston is still just 2 games back from injury and I think he needs to come from the bench. I'm not prepared to dump Zillman yet but I didn't even notice him on the field tonight. Our backrow has been woeful this season with only one o them a game playing half decent. Tonight was Birds turn, Harrison was terrible and Minichiello went missing. I reckon Prince needs to be shifted to 5/8 but we need to stick with our 6 & 7 for a while longer. Mead once again proved he is inconsistent under the high ball. We'll win next week v bye but the bulldogs will test us for sure. I think Harrison has played himself out of origin. Interesting to see where Carty goes from here I fear that need to be said

DIEHARD
16-05-11, 10:59 PM
Titans Go Down In A Thriller

A spirited late charge was not enough to get the Jetstar Gold Coast Titans across the line in a nail-biting 16-12 loss to the Manly Sea Eagles at Skilled Park tonight.

In a tight encounter Manly took a 16-6 lead into the final 25 minutes, but when Esi Tonga crossed for the Titans in the 71st minute to reel the deficit back to 16-12, a comeback was on the cards.

In front of a crowd of 12,360 the Titans threw everything they had at Manly in the dying minutes of the game but were unable to crack the desperate Manly defence and pull off the fairytale comeback.

Jetstar Titans coach John Cartwright said despite the loss his side showed some real potential but need to work on building pressure and consistency across the board.

“You can handle losing games when that sort of effort goes in, it’s just the consistency of our football and our effort hasn’t been there this year, we seem to save it for the better teams in the competition,” Cartwright said.

“If we turn up like that week in week out I know we’d be sitting a lot better than what we are, but that’s our challenge.

“We defended very well tonight on the back of a lot of possession on Manly.

“A couple of simple little errors in defence and we got punished they were good enough to take advantage of it and that’s the sign of a good sign.”

Jetstar Titans captain Scott Prince said he was proud of his side’s ability to stick in the game but it was the team’s errors which worked against them in the end.

“I think across the board, just generally in the game it was little unforced errors that cost us in the end,” Prince said.

“I guess a positive is that we didn’t die wondering we gave it a fair crack and ran out of time in the end.

“We defended really well on the back of our errors, but with the amount of possession they had, it was just good that we were able to defend it.”

After taking advantage of an early penalty, it was Manly who opened the scoring in their first set when Daly Cherry-Evans rocketed a cut-out pass to Jamie Lyon who flicked a pass out the back for David Williams to score in the corner, with Cherry-Evans conversion sailing wide Manly took an early 4-0 lead in the opening two minutes.

Manly extended their lead in the 23rd minute when some good team play created space out wide for winger Michael Robertson to cross, with Cherry-Evans adding the extras Manly lead 10-0.

On the back of repeat sets the Titans crossed in the 32nd minute through Prince who stepped his way around the Manly defence before converting the try to reel the half-time deficit back to 10-6.

Manly extended their lead in the 55th minute when Steve Matai made a break down the wing only to be denied by Prince who raked the ball out, but it was Robertson who swooped on the loose ball to bag his second, and with Cherry-Evans converting Manly lead 16-6

The Titans responded in the 71st minute when a scrappy play on the last tackle turned favourable after a string of passes found space out wide for Tonga to cross, with Prince ‘s conversion successful the Titans trailed 16-12.

With the home crowd behind them and the momentum swinging in their favour the Titans had a list ditch attempt to get across the line, but in the end the Manly defence proved too much for the Titans.

The Titans have the bye next week before looking to get things back on track when they take on the Bulldogs in two weeks time in a double-header at Suncorp Stadium.

Manly Sea Eagles 16 (M Robertson 2, D Williams; D Cherry-Evans 2 conversions) defeated Gold Coast Titans 12 (S Prince, E Tonga; S Prince 2 conversions)

Source: Titans

DIEHARD
16-05-11, 11:00 PM
Sea Eagles soar over Gold Coast Titans

No Brett Stewart, no Jason King - no problem for the Manly Sea Eagles.

Despite missing two of their biggest names, the Sea Eagles continued to soar with a 16-12 NRL win over Gold Coast Titans on Monday night.

It was the fifth win in six games for Manly - and their first at Skilled Park since 2008.

Not that they had it all their own way.

Indeed the Titans had the 12,360 fans on their feet when they cut the deficit to just 16-12 with a 71st minute Esi Tonga try.

Then Titans skipper Scott Prince had a chance to apply the blowtorch in the final minute, but his cross-field kick came off the side of the boot and into Manly's willing hands.

It was the Titans' third loss in four games - relegating last year's preliminary finalists to a woeful 3-7 record.

He may have muffed the final play but Prince's heroics kept the Titans in the match.

He scored a brilliant individual try in the first half, and looked to have pulled off a miracle try saving tackle in the second - only for Manly winger Michael Robertson to collect his second four-pointer.

After Manly led 10-6 at halftime, Robertson claimed his second in the 55th minute despite Prince's quick thinking.

Manly centre Steve Matai looked to have bulldozed his way over for a try, only for Prince to rake the ball free.

Yet Robertson pounced on the spilt ball and was given the green light by video referee Chris Ward.

After Manly jumped to a 10-0 first half lead, Prince finally got the Titans on the scoreboard in the 32nd minute when he dummied and stepped his way through three defenders to cross.

The early signs were ominous for the Titans.

In the first minute, winger David Williams ran off a wonderful Jamie Lyon backflick pass to score.

Manly were over again in the 23rd minute when Kiwi half Kieran Foran switched the play to the left and quick hands helped Robertson expose an overlap and cross untouched.

Daly Cherry-Evans' sideline conversion made it 10-0.

Robertson looked to have a third try in the 66th minute but he spilt a Foran cross field kick.

It was an impressive win for Manly who lost co-captain King (rib) barely 24 hours after he was named in the NSW Origin team.

Stewart had also succumbed to a hamstring strain - he missed five weeks with the injury before scoring a hat-trick on his return last round.

MANLY 16 (M Robertson 2 D Williams tries D Cherry-Evans 2 goals) bt GOLD COAST 12 (S Prince E Tonga tries S Prince 2 goals) at Skilled Park. Referee: Gavin Badger, Adam Devcich. Crowd: 12,360.AAP

Source: Titans

Skyfire
17-05-11, 01:19 AM
So frustrating, i hate losing to Manly!!!

Taga was awesome though and James was amazing. :surprise:

AmericanTitan
17-05-11, 05:41 AM
man Taga and Ryan James really played well. They seemed like the only ones along with Bird.

The attack was so disjointed we could get nothing going. The defense wasn't too bad.

Preston had another pretty bad game. Prince wasn't doing anything spectacular beyond the one break. We need to find a hooker ASAP.

GCTitans11
17-05-11, 07:10 AM
I know we have been through this before but Bird to 5/8 we have no choice. It was just dreadful to watch the backline movements last night. Slow sloppy passing. We have great go forward but the backs aren't getting good quality ball.

amaline
17-05-11, 07:23 AM
It was 12 minutes to go, down by 10 and no one ran to the scrum. In a game that was to make or break for our season. Says it all, really.

Supergoose
17-05-11, 09:21 AM
Sorry about the last post, I fell asleep as i was typing it. Bird ain't gonna fix the slow passing, in fact he has only had a couple of good games this season and I think NSW have erred in picking him and Qld shouldn't pick Harrison either on form. If Zillman is not the five-eighth I'm looking at putting Prince there and playing Capewell at halfback. The hooker is our major issue though, it's time to blood Lawton or Srama with Presto as back-up. O'Dwyer is make-shift and when he goes to dummy-half the passes are straight but slow as he stands up to pass it. He's just not built to be a dummy-half.

Even though I think Mead has some deficiency under the high ball I'm shifting him to centre until Walker can get some good Q-cup under his belt. Tomane had some bad moments bit overall he was solid and his stats back that up. I think he is a winger, plain and simple. The backs are only ever going to do so much, the problem is in our backrow. Their mistakes and tackle effectiveness has been hurting us. The tackling was better in this game but was woeful in the previous ones. I'm not sure Taga can play prop but it's worth a try.

My line up for the Bulldogs is as follows

Zillman
Tomane
Mead
Tonga
Michaels
Prince
Capewell
Bailey
Srama/Lawton (prob lean towards Lawton ATM due to size)
James
Thompson
Minichiello
Bird

Harrison
White
Tagataese/Henderson (has to be prop)
Campbell

patskE
17-05-11, 09:52 AM
i think everyone knows its time for a change
but its up to carty to do something about it
i spose his got 2 weeks to try new things n stuff
so hopefully he does

Rage
17-05-11, 04:49 PM
Really disappointed with the result of this 'must win' game...it's just these damn errors that are killing us

ozynorts
17-05-11, 06:33 PM
tomane was tomane, he didn't look any different to last year. lost in defence. the attacking plays the titans are using are so slow and predictible. every time we attack it goes 2nd man, 2nd man, 2nd man centre to winger. the only difference is when prince tries to slide a kick through the line. they are standing waaaayyyyy to deep fpr the second man play to fool anyone. the defence has time to adjust to where the ball is being played to. the team has the players to get results but they are being hampered by the tactics they are employing.
i think it is time for carty to bite the bullet and start planning for next year. get a new fullback in, give zillman time to adjust to 5/8 and give one of the kids a go at 9.
have to agree that tonga has been better lately, the threat of idris and champion coming next year has forced him to lift and start showing what he is really capable of.