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DIEHARD
11-12-10, 11:51 AM
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North Queensland Cowboys vs Gold Coast Titans
Apr 08 - 11 2011 - Dairy Farmers Stadium, Townsville

COWBOYS

TBA

TITANS

TBA

DIEHARD
02-04-11, 09:09 PM
After such a courageous win to the Titans over Canberra, finally winning without Friend and in Canberra. And without our key players Scott Prince, Ashley Harrison and Nathan Friend, as well as a late injury to Preston.

It's time to look forward to the Cowboys v Titans match this Friday!!

Blazertaser
02-04-11, 09:12 PM
After such a courageous win to the Titans over Canberra, finally winning without Friend and in Canberra. And without our key players Scott Prince, Ashley Harrison and Nathan Friend, as well as a late injury to Preston.

It's time to look forward to the Cowboys v Titans match this Friday!!

And Gordo ;)

amaline
02-04-11, 09:13 PM
If Prince is unable to play this week, do we need to bring in a specialist goal kicker?

DIEHARD
02-04-11, 09:20 PM
And Gordo! Sorry Kev! Big loss!

Any injuries or suspensions from the Parra v NQ game?

TITAN PETE
03-04-11, 12:36 AM
Friendy is 110% right for his return
Prince 98%
Harro 95%
No Presto

Supergoose
03-04-11, 08:30 AM
Will no Presto mean we carry Capewell on the bench? He would be great impact off the bench and provides good backline coverage. I still want to see Bird and Thompson in the pack and some more speed out wide but the defence has been pretty good out there so it may be about getting the right balance and attacking after the initial 20 minutes of a match. With 2 forwards in the backline to start surely we can carry some speed on the benches to carve up in the late stages of the first half and throughout the second. It would also be like the opposition was playing against two teams on the same day. It would require control and discipline to pull it off but the results would be spectacular. Bring Mead off the bench for Thompson (start with Tomane on that wing) and Campbell for Bird and watch us pile on some points.

patskE
03-04-11, 08:52 AM
i rkn maybe walker on the bench? :P
didnt mead kick for png?

TITAN PETE
03-04-11, 09:20 AM
i rkn maybe walker on the bench? :P
didnt mead kick for png?

Pretty sure he was suspended for 4 or 5 matches only last week so he won't be travelling :nope:

Boofhead
03-04-11, 11:20 AM
Tomane would be handy asset in the goal kicking department if Prince is out.

DIEHARD
03-04-11, 02:16 PM
This will be the Cowboys third game in 12 days.

Supergoose
03-04-11, 11:33 PM
I have an inkling that Capewell can kick goals too. Not sure where that comes from, but it is unusual for us to have a dearth of kicking options after having. Delaney, Chris Walker, Prince, Campbell, Rogers in the past.

TITAN PETE
04-04-11, 07:30 AM
I have an inkling that Capewell can kick goals too. Not sure where that comes from, but it is unusual for us to have a dearth of kicking options after having. Delaney, Chris Walker, Prince, Campbell, Rogers in the past.

Capewell is a goal kicker along with Joe Vickery :thumbsup:

Surfers6
04-04-11, 11:38 AM
I think it is time to Bring Tomane in.
I like the look of this side.

1 W.Zillman
2 S.Michaels
3 E.Tonga
4 J.Tomane
5 D.Mead
6 G.Bird
7 S.Prince
8 L.Bailey
9 N.Friend
10 M.White
11 A.Laffranchi
12 B.Thompson
13 A.Harrison

14 M.Minichello
15 R.James
16 B.Ridge
17 L.Capewell/ R.Brown

Still offers the same dimensions, add Brown if Friend can not play the full 80, otherwise use Capewell.
Ridge deserves to keep his spot in the 17, i think he did great.
I hope Carty gives Tomane a shot.

teke
04-04-11, 12:08 PM
Would people really want Willie Tonga doing a round 2 on Tomane ?!

He schooled him last year. Bodene hasnt been playing bad so I doubt he will replace him.

titansrawesome
04-04-11, 12:24 PM
I think it is time to Bring Tomane in.
I like the look of this side.

1 W.Zillman
2 S.Michaels
3 E.Tonga
4 J.Tomane
5 D.Mead
6 G.Bird
7 S.Prince
8 L.Bailey
9 N.Friend
10 M.White
11 A.Laffranchi
12 B.Thompson
13 A.Harrison

14 M.Minichello
15 R.James
16 B.Ridge
17 L.Capewell/ R.Brown

Still offers the same dimensions, add Brown if Friend can not play the full 80, otherwise use Capewell.
Ridge deserves to keep his spot in the 17, i think he did great.
I hope Carty gives Tomane a shot.

1.mead
2.tomane
3.tagatese
4.tonga
5.michaels
6.zillman
7.prince
8.bailey
9.friend
10.white
11.laffaranchi
12.ridge
13.bird(2nd kicker)
14.campbell
15.meyers
16.thimpson
17.minnichello

thats a great side

Titan_Blue
04-04-11, 12:32 PM
Would people really want Willie Tonga doing a round 2 on Tomane ?!

He schooled him last year. Bodene hasnt been playing bad so I doubt he will replace him.

Yes, that defence from Tomane was terrible.

But I remember the game where Vatuvei couldn't catch a ball and people never wanted him back as well.

I bet those same people are glad now that they didn't exile Vatuvei forever because of a terrible performance early in his career...there are special talents that are worth persevering with.

Did anyone watch Glen Fisiiahi bounce back from his Round 1 embarrassment yesterday by scoring a double?

lonegull
04-04-11, 12:32 PM
i like mead at fullback, i noticed against the raiders he came looking for the ball a bit whilst playing fullback so i would swap him and zilly between wing and fullback

i think we need capewell on the bench to play a bit of hooker/fullback with zilly moving to 5/8th

Titan_Blue
04-04-11, 12:38 PM
And from the Jets match reports on the weekend:


On-loan Gold Coast Titans centre Tomane was brilliant for the Jets, scoring two tries and setting up Luke Walker for his two four-pointers.

Walker said he would love to play outside the 106 kilogram centre again.

“He’s a big strike centre that’s very hard to handle,” Walker said.

“Fingers crossed next week I’m in the team and next to him because he makes life easy for you.”

http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/04/04/luke-walkers-dazzle-nabs-focus-as-jets-fly-high/



“Tomane caused a bit of havoc down our right side and it’s hard coming up against guys who are full-time NRL players.

“There’s no excuse really, but you can see the difference in some players.”

Tomane and his right side partner Luke Walker bagged a double each for the Jets with Capewell also crossing the white line.

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2011/04/04/afterburners-singe-sea-eagles-coast-rugby-league/

Boofhead
04-04-11, 12:43 PM
1. Zillman
2. Michaels
3. Tonga
4. Thompson
5. Tomane
6. Capewell
7. Prince
8. Bailey
9. Friend
10. White
11. Laffranchi
12. Minichiello
13. Harrison

14. Brown
15. James
16. Meyers
17. Ridge

Boofhead
04-04-11, 12:50 PM
And from the Jets match reports on the weekend:



http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/04/04/luke-walkers-dazzle-nabs-focus-as-jets-fly-high/




http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2011/04/04/afterburners-singe-sea-eagles-coast-rugby-league/

We need this bloke in the team, enough is enough.

teke
04-04-11, 12:53 PM
Im the biggest Mead and Michaels nuthgger on here but Zilly has been playing pretty good.

Its disturbing how much ball the wingers and even the sides centres DONT get. It is hard to be a fan of their play when it is so forward dominated. Use the ball you boring peanuts.

titansrawesome
04-04-11, 01:31 PM
Im the biggest Mead and Michaels nuthgger on here but Zilly has been playing pretty good.

Its disturbing how much ball the wingers and even the sides centres DONT get. It is hard to be a fan of their play when it is so forward dominated. Use the ball you boring peanuts.

yeah thats right, anyone notice that for the last year and a bit our forwards having scored most of our tries,not a single back(birds a lock really) scored a try vs the raiders? mead and the backs should have heaps of tries with their speed and talent but they never get the ball

teke
04-04-11, 01:39 PM
yeah thats right, anyone notice that for the last year and a bit our forwards having scored most of our tries,not a single back(birds a lock really) scored a try vs the raiders? mead and the backs should have heaps of tries with their speed and talent but they never get the ballWatching the Warriors v Sharks game...the wingers got the ball on the fly at least 3 times a half. Our wingers would be luck to have received it that many times this year and Im not joking

DIEHARD
04-04-11, 02:39 PM
Only one charge so far from Round Four - Gold Coast Titans player, Greg Bird, was charged with Striking. He will miss one week regardless as to whether he takes an early plea (112 points) or is found guilty (150 points).

Source: NRL

Titan_Blue
04-04-11, 02:52 PM
1. Mead
6. Zillman

Should be trialled this week, and it could definitely be a long-term option.

Titanmudgee
04-04-11, 02:55 PM
If birdys out offers up a few interesting possibilities

1. Zillman to 5/8 - mead to fullback/ Tomane to wing?
2. Capewell straight swap?
3. Zillman to 5/8 and capewell to fullback. He was apparently sensational at 1 for ippy on the weekend
4. Rankin comes in?

Alot of possibilities

TITAN PETE
04-04-11, 03:05 PM
Now that Bird is out Capewell should get another shot but i wouldn't be surprised if Carty throws Harro in so he can keep Ridge in the starting squad :surprise:

Boofhead
04-04-11, 03:14 PM
Now that Bird is out Capewell should get another shot but i wouldn't be surprised if Carty throws Harro in so he can keep Ridge in the starting squad :surprise:

Our defensive line would be so hard to break with that set up... Still think Capewell will get his chance, but 5/8 will be Birds once again against the Tigers.

TITAN PETE
04-04-11, 03:19 PM
The Whisper is Capewell will be wearing the 7 for this match :surprise:

Boofhead
04-04-11, 03:25 PM
The Whisper is Capewell will be wearing the 7 for this match :surprise:

Prince at 5/8 or is he not fit?

TITAN PETE
04-04-11, 03:45 PM
Prince at 5/8 or is he not fit?

Looks at the moment he won't be playing , Friendy did say he would wear the 7 if needed :surprise: , i told him it would suit Bailey better :rolf:

GoldCoastTitans100
04-04-11, 04:39 PM
1 Luke Capewell
2 S.Michaels
3 B.Thompson
4 J.Tomane
5 D.Mead
6 Jordan Rankin
7 W.Zillman
8 L.Bailey
9 N.Friend
10 Brad Meyers
11 A.Laffranchi
12 M.Minichello
13 A.Harrison

14 Michael Henderson
15 R.James
16 B.Ridge
17 Kayne Lawton

Rankin and Zillman will probably not get a go because we can't pick anyone who will play better then prince

titansrawesome
04-04-11, 05:00 PM
no try zillman at 5/8 i was very happy with his work filling in last week

GoldCoastTitans100
04-04-11, 05:10 PM
no try zillman at 5/8 i was very happy with his work filling in last week

He played HB last week, I want to see rankin play in the NRL again but i don't want him at HB.

titansrawesome
04-04-11, 05:17 PM
He played HB last week, I want to see rankin play in the NRL again but i don't want him at HB.

there pretty much the same position except halfback is harder to adjust too and locks sometimes play 5/8

Supergoose
04-04-11, 07:36 PM
Another test of our adaptability. Will be very interesting to see how we line-up. Surely it's Tomane time and Capewell will be back too with Bird out. I would like to see this line-up.

1. Mead
2. Michaels
3. Tonga
4. Thompson
5. Tomane
6. Zillman
7. Capewell
8. Bailey
9. Friend
10. Henderson
11. Laffranchi
12. Minichiello
13. Harrison

14. Meyers
15. White
16. James
17. Ridge

If Friend needs a spell then surely Harrison or Ridge could spell him for 10. I reckon it would be our quickest line-up for a while. We looked a little pedestrian at times against Canberra but that might be the impact of no Prince.

Tamwelg
04-04-11, 07:41 PM
Another test of our adaptability. Will be very interesting to see how we line-up. Surely it's Tomane time and Capewell will be back too with Bird out. I would like to see this line-up.

1. Mead
2. Michaels
3. Tonga
4. Thompson
5. Tomane
6. Zillman
7. Capewell
8. Bailey
9. Friend
10. Henderson
11. Laffranchi
12. Minichiello
13. Harrison

14. Meyers
15. White
16. James
17. Ridge

If Friend needs a spell then surely Harrison or Ridge could spell him for 10. I reckon it would be our quickest line-up for a while. We looked a little pedestrian at times against Canberra but that might be the impact of no Prince.

That's pretty much the identical team I'd go for as well. Just need to swap White and Hendo.

TITAN PETE
04-04-11, 09:52 PM
That's pretty much the identical team I'd go for as well. Just need to swap White and Hendo.

I'd probably agree with u Tam but I wouldn't mind if Rankin got a shot at 5/8 either ;)

titansrawesome
04-04-11, 10:19 PM
why do people insist on bodene still being at centre? he is a much better forward put taga at centre

Tamwelg
04-04-11, 10:25 PM
why do people insist on bodene still being at centre? he is a much better forward put taga at centre

Mate Taga will be lucky to still be in the team this week.

titansrawesome
04-04-11, 10:49 PM
Mate Taga will be lucky to still be in the team this week.

i dont understand though he hasn't even done anything wrong this year in attack and he has been a heat seeking missile in defense

Tamwelg
04-04-11, 10:59 PM
i dont understand though he hasn't even done anything wrong this year in attack and he has been a heat seeking missile in defense

Apart from a few really good runs, running great lines and some awesome big hits, he's a bit non existent. He is too inconsistent and did you see his attempt on tackle on Jarrod Croker? and yes I know Greg Bird has made 2 similar attempts at tackle over 2 games now. I really like taga, but would love to see him be more consistent. Neither have the attacking flare Tomane does, but I don't think Carty has wiped his defense from his mind from last year. I'd love for Tomane to have his defense in order and get a start.

teke
04-04-11, 11:41 PM
i dont understand though he hasn't even done anything wrong this year in attack and he has been a heat seeking missile in defenseTaga has been a missile but not a heat seeking one. It's hit or miss with him, usually hit if the bloke is either not watching him or running straight ahead. Blokes that shoot out of the line tend to get shown up.

It's a dam interesting side this weekend.

I wouldnt mind seeing Capes at HB, Zilly at 5/8 Mead at FB and Tomane at 5.

titansrawesome
04-04-11, 11:47 PM
Taga has been a missile but not a heat seeking one. It's hit or miss with him, usually hit if the bloke is either not watching him or running straight ahead. Blokes that shoot out of the line tend to get shown up.

It's a dam interesting side this weekend.

I wouldnt mind seeing Capes at HB, Zilly at 5/8 Mead at FB and Tomane at 5.

my sentiments exactly, but surely we could give taga a trial at centre or at least toopi back at centre for bodene

teke
05-04-11, 12:00 AM
my sentiments exactly, but surely we could give taga a trial at centre or at least toopi back at centre for bodeneCarty could but we all know how he works. Bodene has to have a few ordinary games before he makes the chop.

Ryan
05-04-11, 05:17 AM
What's wrong with Bodene? He's offered alot more at center than Toopi or Taga.
Canberra sent all their traffic down his side on Saturday. Bodene and Laffranchi had to make nearly 90 tackles between them compared to Mini & Tonga's 28 on the other side.
In attack he muscled over for a try, made plenty of tackle breaks and a couple of line breaks & offloads.
What is Taga or Toopi gonna provide that Bodene isn't?

Ryan
05-04-11, 05:24 AM
1. Mead
2. Michaels
3. Tonga
4. Thompson
5. Tomane
6. Zillman
7. Capewell
8. Bailey
9. Friend
10. White
11. Laffranchi
12. Minichiello
13. Harrison

14. Brown
15. James
16. Ridge
17. Meyers

Supergoose
05-04-11, 05:37 AM
Taga has looked slow and disinterested the last couple of weeks and has missed some important tackles. Have a look at a stats sheet and you'll see why Thompson is so important ahead of Toopi and Taga. He makes 3 times a's many tackles and is mopping up the deficiencies inside him. He hasn't been setting it alight in attack, but he could've been had Zillman let a couple of passes go against the Broncos. I don't know why we want to move Big Bo unless we have a strike centre/winger that we intend on using hiding somewhere. If we're not going to score them, let's at least stop them.

Dopamine
05-04-11, 06:35 AM
Word on the street is Carty's going to reward Brown with a spot on the bench.. Taking Campbell's spot.

curly_11
05-04-11, 06:59 AM
Cant believe people are writing off Thompson. Hes been our most consistant player yet, plus hes still young and got heaps to look forward to.

Have you all forgotten Delaney?

Tamwelg
05-04-11, 07:23 AM
What's wrong with Bodene? He's offered alot more at center than Toopi or Taga.
Canberra sent all their traffic down his side on Saturday. Bodene and Laffranchi had to make nearly 90 tackles between them compared to Mini & Tonga's 28 on the other side.
In attack he muscled over for a try, made plenty of tackle breaks and a couple of line breaks & offloads.
What is Taga or Toopi gonna provide that Bodene isn't?

Well said.


1. Mead
2. Michaels
3. Tonga
4. Thompson
5. Tomane
6. Zillman
7. Capewell
8. Bailey
9. Friend
10. White
11. Laffranchi
12. Minichiello
13. Harrison

14. Brown
15. James
16. Ridge
17. Meyers

Nice team that and it looks to be similar to what most are going with. As pointed out to me by another forum member though, do either Capewell or Zillman possess a kicking game. They could do, I didn't realise Bird had one until the weekend. Even if they rush Prince back in I think who ever is the other half will be doing all the kicking because his hammy will fall apart again if he does.


Cant believe people are writing off Thompson. Hes been our most consistant player yet, plus hes still young and got heaps to look forward to.?

There is one 1 or 2 calling for his head.

Tamwelg
05-04-11, 07:34 AM
Titans' Bird hit with striking charge

Jake Dew | April 4th, 2011

THE expected return of Nathan Friend to the Titans line-up could be tempered by the loss of Greg Bird with the Coast's five-eighth in danger of missing a week through suspension.

Bird, who was the hero of the Titans' drought-breaking golden-point victory in Canberra on Saturday, was today hit with a grade one striking charge for a 66th -minute incident involving Raiders halfback Matt Orford.

The charge carries a one-week suspension even with an early guilty plea, which means the Titans could go into Friday night's match against the Cowboys in Townsville without both of their first-choice halves.

Skipper Scott Prince revealed today he remained uncertain for the Cowboys clash after being a late scratching from the Titans' stirring win over the Raiders with a hamstring injury.

The Gold Coast will at least welcome back inspirational hooker Friend for his first match of the season against North Queensland.

With the Titans breaking through for their first win without Friend in eight matches against Canberra on the weekend, the recall of the 30-year-old will provide a lift for the Titans when they search for back-to-back victories against an equally desperate Cowboys unit.

Prince said the return of Friend and the consistent Ash Harrison, who is tipped to win back his spot after missing the Canberra trip with injury, will provide more punch.

And if Prince is passed fit from a hamstring strain that also forced him out of the Raiders win, the Titans will field its strongest squad this season.

"I think having some key players back will give us a boost of confidence and fingers crossed they can get through the week at training," he said.

"We'll take a lot out of the win but we can't rest on that. We have to use it as a springboard for the rest of our season and it's important we back it up and not fall back in that comfort zone and expect things to happen."

Anthony Laffranchi, who crossed in the 80th minute to force the Canberra contest in golden-point extra-time, agreed, adding the incentive of last weekend's win was proving no challenge was too great.

www.goldcoast.com.au

Ryan
05-04-11, 07:35 AM
Nice team that and it looks to be similar to what most are going with. As pointed out to me by another forum member though, do either Capewell or Zillman possess a kicking game. They could do, I didn't realise Bird had one until the weekend. Even if they rush Prince back in I think who ever is the other half will be doing all the kicking because his hammy will fall apart again if he does.



There is one 1 or 2 calling for his head.

Good point about the kicking game. I haven't seen Zillman kick before, but I was hoping the 'Total package' could live up to his knickname, I reckon he would be good for short kicks close to the line.
I haven't much of Capewell at all. The only other option would be Rankin - but how well has he been going in the U20's squad :ugh:
Bird did abit of kicking for the Sharks, pretty the same what he showed on Saturday. Looks like we are resigned to losing him, but there no harm in fighting the charge and seeing what happens. What other halves options do we have kicking wise? Maybe Harro can long kick from #13????





There is one 1 or 2 calling for his head.
Same person who calls for 4-5 heads after every match regardless of performance :rolleyes:

TITAN PETE
05-04-11, 07:49 AM
Friendy is another player that has a kicking game , probably more short than long but he will be taking some of the pressure off the halves.. i'm really looking forward to Capewell have a crack at steering the ship around the park as he looked excellent playing 7 at Coff's when Prince left the field for the final 1/4 :thumbsup:

Titan_Blue
05-04-11, 08:23 AM
Predicting this lineup to be named:

1. Zillman
2. Michaels
3. Tonga
4. Thompson
5. Mead
6. Capewell
7. Prince
8. White
9. Friend
10. Bailey
11. Mini
12. Laffranchi
13. Harrison

14. James
15. Meyers
16. Ridge/Taga
17. Brown

titansrawesome
05-04-11, 08:50 AM
nothings wrong with bodene i just think he has better value as a bench 2nd rower or starting 2nd rower, we have a lot of backs in our feeder clubs and the titans system to use another centre while retaining bodene as a 2nd rower.
i think bird should continue doing the kicking because he has big kicks that are very very good, and yes tomane would be good on the wing, mead at fullback is also a good option with zillman at 5/8

Dopamine
05-04-11, 09:26 AM
Anyone know if its a new heritage strip for this year?? Heritage round this week..

Tamwelg
05-04-11, 11:48 AM
Titan Bird accepts one-match ban


THE Titans face the prospect of taking on the Cowboys in Townsville on Friday night without their two first-choice halves after five-eighth Greg Bird today accepted a one-match ban for striking.

Bird was hit with a grade one charge by the match review panel on Monday over a 66th minute incident involving Raiders halfback Matt Orford in his matchwinning performance in Canberra.

The Titans were surprised by the charge given the incident failed to result in a penalty during Saturday night's, which the Coast won 23-22 in golden-point extra-time on the back of a Bird field goal.

His suspension leaves the Titans sweating on the fitness of skipper Scott Prince after he missed Saturday's win in Canberra with a hamstring injury.

Prince is confident of receiving positive news when he gets the results of scans on his hamstring injury today but will be given until game day to prove his fitness.

Source: http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2011/04/05/305475_gold-coast-titans.html
.......................................

Tamwelg
05-04-11, 12:14 PM
No Harro this week. Direct from his twitter account


Not meant to be this wk. Will build up again next week and see how she pulls up #stillabittwingie

Tamwelg
05-04-11, 12:24 PM
Teams for Round 5 V North Queensland
5/04/2011 1:15:26 PM
Jetstar Gold Coast Titans V North Queensland Cowboys
Friday 8th April
Kick Off 7.35pm

1 William Zillman
2 Steve Michaels
3 Esi Tonga
4 Bodene Thompson
5 David Mead
6 Luke Capewell
7 Scott Prince
8 Luke Bailey
9 Nathan Friend
10 Matthew White
11 Anthony Laffranchi
12 Mark Minichiello
13 Ben Ridge

14 Michael Henderson
15 Sam Tagaetese
16 Ryan James
17 Riley Brown
18 Luke O'Dwyer


Gold Coast Titans NYC V North Queensland Cowboys NYC
Friday 8th April

1 Izaeah Marsh
2 Alec Jones
3 Japeth Vaoa
4 Aaron Fairweather
5 Matt Garland
6 Jordan Rankin
7 Sam Irwin
8 Luke Page
9 Matt Srama
10 Mitch Spackman
11 Sam Martin
12 Joe Mua
13 Dylan Hartin
14 Cale Hobday
15 Titako Sili
16 Blake Anderson
17 Afa Veatupu
18 Charlie Jones
19 Matt Beddow

Titan_Blue
05-04-11, 12:33 PM
9 Nathan Friend


What good reading that is!

titansrawesome
05-04-11, 12:47 PM
great no tomane......

TITAN PETE
05-04-11, 12:57 PM
Chalky Odwyer selection is for his utility value & will probably between him & Brown to make the starting 17 but Meyers injury must be worse than expected.

Prince is no certainty to play so i'll guess there will be others travelling with the team.

Boofhead
05-04-11, 01:00 PM
If we can get away with a win here, we will be in great stance! All our players (bar Gordon) are not too far off. Hopefully we will have the full compliment against the Tigers.

Titan_Blue
05-04-11, 01:08 PM
great no tomane......

He'll end up topping the QRL tryscorer list

Boofhead
05-04-11, 01:16 PM
Cowboys

1. Matthew Bowen
2. Ashley Graham
3. Will Tupou
4. Willie Tonga
5. Kalifa Faifai Loa
6. Ray Thompson
7. Johnathan Thurston
8. Matthew Scott
9. Aaron Payne
10. James Tamou
11. Gavin Cooper
12. Glenn Hall
13. Dallas Johnson

14. James Segeyaro
15. Leeson Ah Mau
16. Tariq Sims
17. Ashton Sims
18. Scott Bolton
19. Antonio Winterstein

http://www.cowboys.com.au/default.aspx?s=team

Boofhead
05-04-11, 01:17 PM
Good looking Cowboys team.

Coaster
05-04-11, 01:19 PM
Kalifa Faifai Loa is a dead set monster, keep our kicks away from him please

Boofhead
05-04-11, 01:31 PM
http://www.nrl.com/Portals/NRL/RadEditor/images/heritage/jersey-titans.png
Heres our jersey!

Here is a link to the Cowboys v Titans match in 2008!
http://nrl.com/TelstraPremiership/HeritageRound2011/tabid/11015/Default.aspx#

Tamwelg
05-04-11, 01:37 PM
great no tomane......

We all know how Carty works and as much as I'd love to see Joey back in the NRL, you can't blame Carty for not changing a winning team.

Surfers6
05-04-11, 02:00 PM
Maybe after this week we could put Tomane on the bench for Brown and move Tomane into the centres for Bodene after about 30mins.

karnage
05-04-11, 03:39 PM
That's a very settled Cowboys 17.

As well as we plyed against Canberra we still relied on opposition mistakes to get the win so we will still need the Cowboys to be the Knights version and not the Storm one to get away with the 2 points here.

Friend will only make a difference if the rest of the team still roll their sleeves up and do their fair share. If they drop their intensity even 1% the effectiveness of his return will be nullified.

The Cowboys like to play ver expansive football and generally score at least 3 tries even when they are the losing team so we will need to score points because it is almost inevitable that they will.

Titanmudgee
05-04-11, 04:05 PM
from the looks of things tomane will need to score 6 tries next weekend to even factor into cartys mind. The guy is a monster and a genuine threat in the air and attack. I just cant understand how he keeps getting over looked for a second rower. I feel sorry for the bloke.

If Prince is out and mead doesnt move to fullback and tomane came in on the wing i can only assume tomane has done something to really piss the coach off

Titan_Blue
05-04-11, 04:39 PM
If we lose in a low-scoring game Cartwright will say our defence is great with Thompson in the centres, and the side was unlucky to lose a tight contest.

If we lose and get flogged Cartwright will say we need Thompson in the centres to sure up our defence.

If we win, Cartwright will never change the team.

I can't see a scenario where Tomane will get picked, short of injuries.

DIEHARD
05-04-11, 05:05 PM
I'm so happy to see Scott and Nathan back. I hope Scott is fit.

Weird to have a heritage round game that we can not attend in either Brisbane or the Gold Coast.

patskE
05-04-11, 05:42 PM
thought maybe carty would of given rainkin a crack seeing capewell had a few games n didnt make the no 6 his.

Boofhead
05-04-11, 09:02 PM
thought maybe carty would of given rainkin a crack seeing capewell had a few games n didnt make the no 6 his.
Would be more comfortable with Blade at the 6.

Supergoose
05-04-11, 10:52 PM
A shame not to see Tomane in the mix but great to see Capewell back. I'm hopeful that Tomane will get a run - maybe on the bench once Friend settles back in to the groove of 80 minute football. Good to see Chalky back and hopefully he gets a run ahead of Brown as he as been terrible. If Prince is out surely Tomane comes in to a reshuffled line-up.

teke
06-04-11, 12:33 AM
Tomane will get his shot, its only round 5. Im glad he isnt playing cause Willie might do another number on him and Joey might get dropped for good :D

Dopamine
06-04-11, 06:37 AM
[QUOTE=Boofhead;279040]http://www.nrl.com/Portals/NRL/RadEditor/images/heritage/jersey-titans.png
Heres our jersey!

I like :thumbsup:

Titan_Blue
06-04-11, 09:16 AM
Does anyone in-the-know know whether Harro will play this week?

Articles said he and Prince were both expecting to play but had to pass fitness tests, but Prince got named and he didn't so maybe they're playing it safe and resting him again?

Tamwelg
06-04-11, 09:27 AM
Harro will be another week.

Titan_Blue
06-04-11, 09:42 AM
Thanks Tam.

Titan2007DH
06-04-11, 09:52 AM
Does anyone in-the-know know whether Harro will play this week?

Articles said he and Prince were both expecting to play but had to pass fitness tests, but Prince got named and he didn't so maybe they're playing it safe and resting him again?

Tweeked it at training yesterday, at least another week away. Better to be safe than sorry :)

Titan_Blue
06-04-11, 10:08 AM
Damn, so it's worse now than it was before training???

Might've been wise to just rest it and be right for Round 6...

patskE
06-04-11, 11:03 AM
Tweeked it at training yesterday, at least another week away. Better to be safe than sorry :)

who did? harro or prince?

Tamwelg
06-04-11, 11:11 AM
who did? harro or prince?


No Harro this week. Direct from his twitter account


Not meant to be this wk. Will build up again next week and see how she pulls up #stillabittwingie


;)

meter maid
06-04-11, 12:18 PM
We'll be there flying the lone flag for the Titans.
I guess nobody else is going to T'ville?
Must remember to pack my gear :)

Titan Dad
06-04-11, 12:36 PM
thought maybe carty would of given rainkin a crack seeing capewell had a few games n didnt make the no 6 his.

There is no way Carty could take Rankin for this week. Have you not seen his games this year. He has a lot of work to do and this is definately not the game you would even consider him for.:fight:

Blazertaser
06-04-11, 12:40 PM
We'll be there flying the lone flag for the Titans.
I guess nobody else is going to T'ville?
Must remember to pack my gear :)

There's quite a lot of people from the Legion going up

karnage
06-04-11, 01:52 PM
I've seen Rankin this year too mate. He would not make a Q Cup team at the moment the way that he is going. He has not come on at all in the past 18 months and I will be surprised if he ever gets his 1st grade tally up past 1 game.

Surfers6
06-04-11, 02:31 PM
Rankin is off contract too I think.

We have put a bit of time into him. I beleive he should be re-signed still but on minimums.

Rage
06-04-11, 04:00 PM
North Queensland Cowboys v Gold Coast Titans
Dairy Farmers Stadium
Friday 7.30pm

A good old-fashioned Queensland derby to get Heritage Round started ? it doesn?t get much better.

The Titans are buoyed by their first win while the Cowboys are itching to get back on track after a close loss to the Eels.

We also have the mouth-watering prospect of a Johnathan Thurston-Scott Prince showdown ? that is if Prince can take his place as named after being a late withdrawal last weekend.

Roles are currently reversed from the past two seasons ? at the moment the Cowboys are in the top eight while the Titans are languishing near the foot of the ladder.

With a 2-2 record in the first month the Cowboys sit sixth but a loss here is likely to drop them out of the top half of teams. They have stuck solid to the unit that fell 22-20 to the Eels although Scott Bolton and Antonio Winterstein have been added to the reserves list and will come into contention for a place in the side.

For the Titans, Prince is due back ? and so is hooker Nathan Friend ? but the side has lost Greg Bird to suspension (a late strike on Raider Matt Orford last week) and Preston Campbell to injury.

They managed to get their first win of the year in golden point over Canberra after a lucky scrum knock-on by Matt Orford gave them vital field position in the dying seconds and then Blake Ferguson dropped the ball in extra time. But in this competition you take the points anyway you can get them ? and perhaps it is the catalyst for the Gold Coast boys to make a charge.

In other team news Luke Capewell earns a recall to the five-eighth?s jersey while Riley Brown moves back to the bench for Friend?s return. Brad Meyers has been left out of the side with Luke O?Dwyer added as an 18th man.

Prince is set to become the first player of any Gold Coast club to score 500 points; he has 497 to date.

Watch Out Cowboys: The Titans continue to attack down the left-hand corridor of the field any chance they get, hoping to either make a break or compress the defence in so they can then shift the ball quickly to the right side. The Gold Coast lead the NRL with 39 raids down the left short side, a distinct ploy of theirs. It is imperative the Cowboys? markers are awake to these raids and tackle effectively so extra players aren?t dragged over, consequently leaving space back the other way.

Danger Sign: With Nathan Friend back at hooker, chances are the short-side raids will be even more effective. Marker defence all night must be top notch.

Watch Out Titans: The Cowboys will bring their attacking punch to this contest and the Titans need to find a way to go with them. So far the Cowboys lead the NRL with 26 line-breaks ? while the Titans are the second worst in the league with just 13. This has helped the Cowboys to average 23 points scored a game while the Titans are languishing at just 14.75 points each match, again only better than Penrith.

On the flip side of the coin, it is worth noting that Dallas Johnson is currently averaging almost 20 tackles more than the nearest Cowboy in club history (49.8). So there is some defensive clout in the Cowboys also.

Danger Sign: Cowboys with big-number line-breaks who the Titans must watch are Ashley Graham (NRL-high six), Matt Bowen (four), Kalifa Faifai Loa (three) and Tariq Sims and Will Tupou who have two each.

Plays To Watch: Prince?s grubber kicks at the post; Thurston?s show-and-go; Bowen?s chip-and-chase; Faifai Loa running full speed and using his excellent swerve; Friend engaging markers with clever darts.

Where It Will Be Won: Execution. The Cowboys seem to have found some of their attacking mojo but they are still struggling to make the most of all of their chances. Meanwhile the Titans haven?t asked enough questions of defences and need to be better ? there is a stack of pressure on Scott Prince here.

Remember, Prince is still no certainty and perhaps we will see the late inclusion of someone like Jordan Rankin. Either way, the Titans? halves need to create more and force the Cowboys? defence to make decisions ? something they are not famous for.

If the Cowboys duo of Thurston and Bowen get cranking, no team can stop them ? especially not this Titans team who are quite frankly very lucky not to be 0-4.

The History: Played 7; Cowboys 3, Titans 4. Since their inaugural encounter in 2007 results have gone this way: Cowboys, Titans, Titans, Titans, Cowboys, Cowboys, Titans. Last season the teams split the two meetings, winning their home game, which was the first time the Cowboys had actually beaten the Titans in Townsville. The Titans hold a 2-1 lead at the venue. These games are not traditionally nail-biters, with the average winning margin a hefty 13 points.

Conclusion: They might have been awful against the Knights at home and have been whining a little bit about a tough schedule, but the Cowboys look like the team to beat here.

The Titans have a very welcome return in Friend but with Bird gone and a question mark hanging over Prince it is hard to see them overcoming the Thurston factor.

Match officials: Referees ? Ben Cummins & Tony De Las Heras; Sideline Officials ? Paul Holland & Gavin Morris; Video Ref ? Tim Mander.

Televised: Channel Nine ? Live 7.30pm (Qld), delayed 9.30pm (NSW); Fox Sports ? Delayed 1am.

* Statistics: NRL Stats.

Source: www.nrl.com

Rage
06-04-11, 04:01 PM
"If the Cowboys duo of Thurston and Bowen get cranking, no team can stop them ? especially not this Titans team who are quite frankly very lucky not to be 0-4."

:mad: Guess we should be used to this by now, can't wait to secure 2nd straight win :fight:

DIEHARD
06-04-11, 08:52 PM
We never get any credit, but so be it. We will go undere the radar.

Thanks for posting the NRL preview Rage!

teke
07-04-11, 01:56 AM
I've seen Rankin this year too mate. He would not make a Q Cup team at the moment the way that he is going. He has not come on at all in the past 18 months and I will be surprised if he ever gets his 1st grade tally up past 1 game.Ditto

Nick
07-04-11, 01:19 PM
I have to admit I am bedazzled over how Tomane is not in the squad and even Lawton over Brown, both Tomane and Lawton have been looking sharp in the queensland cup.
In a losing side the other day joe vickery looked pretty good, if one of our wingers is under performing he would slot in perfectly, he has some good pace.

Nick
07-04-11, 01:22 PM
To win this game we just need to target the cowboys right side defense, ash graham cant catch under pressure and will topou is slow to turn and has a bad defensive read.. Willie Tonga has also looked well below par this year making some poor defensive reads.. I think we have a good chance this match.

DIEHARD
07-04-11, 06:09 PM
Titans intent on winning Cowboys clash

THE Titans are determined to cap a marathon opening month of the NRL season with a momentum-building victory over the Cowboys in Townsville on Friday night.

John Cartwright's men have clocked up more kilometres than the Leyland Brothers during the first five rounds, with away trips to Melbourne, Canberra and North Queensland punctuating an already tough draw.

Even before the return trip from Cowboys country, each player has so far racked up 5783kms worth of frequent flyer points and there are still 22 rounds to go.

''It is another tough road trip but we are looking forward to it,'' Titans coach Cartwright said.

''Sometimes the pressure of a home game is more than it is away.

''We have travelled pretty well over the last couple years.

''We have got a really good routine and we actually look forward to going away.''

While the Titans will be without Greg Bird (suspension), Ash Harrison (hamstring), Preston Campbell (knee) and Brad Meyers (wrist), they will be buoyed by the return of hooker Nathan Friend, who is playing his first game for the year following off-season shoulder surgery.

Cartwright also confirmed skipper Scott Prince as a certain starter, after he was a late withdrawal from last week's drought-breaking golden-point victory over the Raiders with a hamstring strain.

Prince requires just three points to become the first player to bring up 500 points for the Titans, while Anthony Laffranchi needs one try to overtake Mat Rogers (32) and become the all-time leading try scorer for the club.

''If we were in any doubt at all (about Prince) we would take some cover up there, but I don't think there is any need,'' Cartwright said.

''He got through a training session on Wednesday and he came in yesterday and did a little bit and there was no ill effects, so he should be fine.

''We have got some guys in form who won't be there.

''Bird started to go really well the last two weeks and Harrison was probably one of the better ones in the first three weeks of the competition.

''We took a bit of confidence out of the Canberra game and we know we have got plenty of improvement left in us.''

The Cowboys will welcome back winger Antonio Winterstein and forward Scott Bolton, with coach Neil Henry to trim his six-man interchange bench prior to kick off.

The Titans have won two of their three matches against the Cowboys at Dairy Farmers Stadium, both of which were by six points or less.

''The (Johnathan) Thurston and (Matt) Bowen combo is back and very dangerous,'' pack leader Luke Bailey said.

''Matt Scott is also always playing well.

''It is going to be very tough, but it makes it easier coming off a win like we did last week.

''But once again, that means nothing if we can't back it up.''

http://www.goldcoast.com.au/

Titanic
07-04-11, 09:59 PM
Capewell should be able to school Ray Thompson but that bloody Bowen is due to break loose - contain him and we win.

ForGCT
07-04-11, 10:31 PM
Very good win at Bruce Stadium. I couldn't get there, (now I know what knee surgery feels like). Hope this Friday we'll see another for GCT. Five & half months since have been into Forum or R/L and it went by fast. All the best for rest of the season to GCT, fans and Legions.

teke
08-04-11, 12:20 AM
I have to admit I am bedazzled over how Tomane is not in the squad and even Lawton over Brown, both Tomane and Lawton have been looking sharp in the queensland cup.
In a losing side the other day joe vickery looked pretty good, if one of our wingers is under performing he would slot in perfectly, he has some good pace.If anyone deserves a spot from Q Cup it's Shannon Walker, he has been dazzling crowds for the past 3 seasons. Q Cup is vastly different to the bigtime. Bodene has the defence that Joey does not

DIEHARD
08-04-11, 02:27 PM
I'll be heading down to the TBar to watch this. Can't wait.

Surfers6
08-04-11, 02:55 PM
Cmon Titans, getting excited now.

Bit of a gameplan.
Hopefull Odwyer in for Brown, more muscle and friendy can play 80.

We need to bomb Ash Grahams wing. 10 errors already this year.

On the last fake to Princeys side as the cowboys will be trying to put on plenty of pressure on his kick. Use capewell down the shortside little grubber for Zillman who will then draw and pass for Wingers.

Forwards need to man up and control the ruck. those cowboys forwards can often be easily dominated.

Watch Bowen in broken play and have good kick returns to limit his space, could ever employ same tactics we use on Slayter. Kick it lllooonnnngggg.

Good Luck Boys, I have Titans by 8.

Mushi
08-04-11, 04:00 PM
Watching this one at home - but will be cheering the boys loudly and proudly! Am hoping to be calling my sis later tonight up there in Nth Qld to rub our win in!!!! :-)

Cowboy Titan
08-04-11, 05:48 PM
Final team - Cowboys v Titans
8/04/2011 6:30:00 PM
http://www.cowboys.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=35358&final-team---cowboys-v-titans

Antonio Winterstein will become the 255th player to run out for the North Queensland Toyota Cowboys when he makes his debut for the club against the Gold Coast tonight.

Coach Neil Henry has just released his squad of 17 to face the Titans at Dairy Farmers Stadium and Winterstein, who will wear No.19, will play in the centres, taking the place of Will Tupou who will line up for the Northern Pride against the Burleigh Bears in the Intrust Super Cup this weekend.

Winterstein, 22, joined North Queensland in the off-season after playing 47 NRL games for the Brisbane Broncos, scoring 19 tries.

He was one of the Broncos’ best last season, playing 20 matches and averaging 90.2 metres and 11.4 hit-ups per game, and he ended the year by being selected in the New Zealand squad for the Four Nations tournament which was won by the Kiwis.

Ironically, Winterstein, who has come back from a broken jaw sustained in a pre-season trial in February, made his NRL debut against the Cowboys in round one of the 2009 season.

In the only other change to the Cowboys’ line-up, back-rower Scott Bolton returns from a calf muscle injury to replace Leeson Ah Mau on the interchange bench.

Bolton, who will wear No.18, has been out since round one.

Ah Mau will play for the Mackay Cutters, alongside his brother Isaak, against Ipswich this weekend.

North Queensland Toyota Cowboys: Matthew Bowen, Ashley Graham, Antonio Winterstein, Willie Tonga, Kalifa Faifai Loa, Ray Thompson, Johnathan Thurston, Matthew Scott, Aaron Payne, James Tamou, Gavin Cooper, Glenn Hall, Dallas Johnson. Interchange: James Segeyaro, Tariq Sims, Ashton Sims, Scott Bolton.

Gold Coast Titans: William Zillman, Steve Michaels, Esi Tonga, Bodene Thompson, David Mead, Luke Capewell, Scott Prince (c), Luke Bailey, Nathan Friend, Ryan James, Anthony Laffranchi, Mark Minichiello, Ben Ridge. Interchange: Matt White, Michael Henderson, Sam Tagataese, Luke O'Dwyer.

Supergoose
08-04-11, 05:53 PM
white out, James is starting and O'Dwyer is onto the bench. Let's hope Friendy is right mentally and physically and starts where he left off. We can win this but will need to stop the Cowboy roll that Scott and Tamou provide. Winterstein is in the centres for topou and Bolton is onto the bench for Ah Mau. We should have the edge out wide as long as we can tackle, because the Cowboys can't tackle but their attack outside is outstanding. Fai Fai Loa, Tonga and Graham have been great in attack and Winterstein will strengthen that. Let's hope we can hit them out wide with our attack. If we can do that we can win, if we keep it too tight then the Cows will repel us and then tear us up out wide.

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 06:07 PM
White is not out, just moved back to bench. Ryan James to start. O'Dwyer bench and Riley Brown out.

isaiah
08-04-11, 06:25 PM
so if cowboys win this, does that make the titans the 3rd best qld team this season, on form?

Boofhead
08-04-11, 06:29 PM
so if cowboys win this, does that make the titans the 3rd best qld team this season, on form?

Not necessarily, however you are a douche bag.

Come back to this thread when you miss the finals again.

Boofhead
08-04-11, 06:35 PM
Both sides look good, going to be a ripper of a game.

Come on you Titans!

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 06:36 PM
Zilly 5/8 and Capewell fullback. I've said numerous times Zilly is a half and I think Capewell will make a good fullback, his support play looking for the offload is up there with the best I have ever seen. I really like those changes. Titans by 10.

mikeyba
08-04-11, 06:37 PM
cool..
Carty just announced
Zillman starting at 5/8 capewell fullback this should be interesting bring it in:banana:

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 06:42 PM
Cmon Zilly own it

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 06:51 PM
i like the caoewell zill,an change up that i have wanted for a bit, but how the hell di they let tonga get it down 4 defenders......

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 06:57 PM
wtf prince sigh

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 07:04 PM
YES thats what i have been talking about for a year and a half thats the attack we need and look how dazzling and good it was

Nick
08-04-11, 07:09 PM
Prince off to play with ipswich FOGS next week?? His defense is not even QLD cup standard

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 07:09 PM
ok this is what i was talking about when i said dont put bodene at centre and you guys fobbed me off, he doesnt mark his man and get in their face right, he should switch with taga

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 07:10 PM
Bird back next week, Prince QRL.

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 07:12 PM
Bird back next week, Prince QRL.

lol i unfortunately agree wtf is going on with scotty

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 07:14 PM
prince is not picking his passes well, laffaranchi is not having a good game either, taga and friend and baileys and everyone else are going ok though

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 07:18 PM
another great hit by taga and break away set up, and you guys wanted to drop him

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 07:21 PM
**** 22-0 we are getting killed record score coming up i fear

Nick
08-04-11, 07:31 PM
Prince is being dominated by Gavin Cooper.
The attack looks improved (when prince doesnt touch it), friendys deliveries are a huge boost for us.

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 07:34 PM
Luke Capewell
Steve Michaels
Esikeli Tonga
Bodene Thompson
David Mead
William Zillman
Scott Prince
Luke Bailey
Nathan Friend
Ryan James
Anthony Laffranchi
Mark Minichiello
Ben Ridge
Matthew White
Michael Henderson
Sam Tagataese
Luke O'Dwyer

next week

1.mead
2.michaels
3.tonga
4.tagatese
5.tomane
6.capewell
7.zillman
8.bailey
9.friend
10.white
11.thompson
12.ridge
13.bird(Kicker)
14.minnechello
15.henderson
16.laffaranchi
17.james

CairnsTitan
08-04-11, 07:42 PM
How bad is prince lol

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 07:43 PM
How bad is prince lol

prince seriously needs to be demoted im not joking he is a turnstile and poo in attack

CairnsTitan
08-04-11, 07:47 PM
actually, our whole team ****ing sucks. this is a joke

Boofhead
08-04-11, 07:48 PM
Prince playing terrible, Refs not giving us any 50/50.

Prince should be playing QLD Cup next week.

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 07:50 PM
our wingers never get the effing ball

CairnsTitan
08-04-11, 07:53 PM
The wingers dont get the ball because our backline plays are so slow, the cows have half of ther team pushed accross by the time it gets wide

Nick
08-04-11, 07:54 PM
There is no way prince will get any blame for his defence.. somehow the media will say it was bodenes misses haha

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 07:54 PM
The wingers dont get the ball because our backline plays are so slow, the cows have half of ther team pushed accross by the time it gets wide

gus said it best when he said its one pass football, and yet half you called me crazy about these things but now they are coming to fruition

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 07:59 PM
anyone know a email address to get in contact with titans management or cartwright?

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 08:04 PM
prince screws up again

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 08:17 PM
prince screws up again, we should make a drinking game out of this

amaline
08-04-11, 08:18 PM
It looks like its going to be a long year.

CairnsTitan
08-04-11, 08:19 PM
would really love to see tomane in the centres next week, bodene and tagatese are not centres

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 08:26 PM
All tries scored through the right side in the first half with Princey defending there. Princey moved to the left and Zilly to the right in the second half, Zilly stiffened up the right and Esi was able to Protect Princey on thr left. Better second half, but still not good enough and I put it all down to Princey. He caused the deficiency in defense and to quote Coaster, when receiving the ball went grabbing sideway across field rather then straightening and asking questions of the defense. At times in attack there were opportunities, but Princey took the wrong option.

Michaels awesome again, along with Tonga.

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 08:28 PM
would really love to see tomane in the centres next week, bodene and tagatese are not centres

Yep me too and I think with Zilly defending next to him on that side, his defense would be much better. I now put a lot of his defensive issues from last year down to having to defend next to Prince.

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 08:28 PM
All tries scored through the right side in the first half with Princey defending there. Princey moved to the left and Zilly to the right in the second half, Zilly stiffened up the right and Esi was able to Protect Princey on thr left. Better second half, but still not good enough and I put it all down to Princey. He caused the deficiency in defense and to quote Coaster, when receiving the ball went grabbing sideway across field rather then straightening and asking questions of the defense. At times in attack there were opportunities, but Princey took the wrong option.

Michaels awesome again, along with Tonga.

like i said we spread the ball to the wingers we score and i told you taga would earn his keep again:) i just sent an email about things to do to fix our problems to the titans, i doubt they look at it but if they do the season will turn right around for us.

Coaster
08-04-11, 08:29 PM
That 5 year contract should be added to the list

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 08:29 PM
would really love to see tomane in the centres next week, bodene and tagatese are not centres

taga makes plenty of breaks so i would like him still as a centre. but no to thompson.

bigjim
08-04-11, 08:29 PM
Princey plays, we lose.
Princey off, we win.
Princey plays, we lose.

There's a story there.

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 08:34 PM
taga makes plenty of breaks so i would like him still as a centre. but no to thompson.

He's just too inconsistent and his rushing out of defense over 80mins would be exploited. The shot periods he plays he can get away with it and come up with some big hit, but over 80 mins continually coming out of the line would lead to even more points down the right, especially if Prince is next to him.

bigjim
08-04-11, 08:35 PM
I know it's all been said before but really Princey seems to be very low on confidence and devoid of any ideas on the paddock.
He spreads the ball wide to Michaels twice and he creates two tries.

Great game by Tagataese and Michaels. I also love the work ethic of 13 Ben Ridge. He never stopped trying.

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 08:35 PM
well either way we need him at least on the bench

patskE
08-04-11, 08:37 PM
y was capewell at fullback :S sifnt walker
i dnt know if i wanna watch the game now. jsut started in nsw!

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 08:38 PM
Next week:

1. Capewell
2. Michaels
3. Tonga
4. Tomane
5. Mead
6. Bird
7. Zilly
8. Bailey
9. Friend
10. White
11. Lafframchi
12. Mini
13. Harrison

14. Thompson
15. James
16. Ridge
17. Meyers

titanfan1980
08-04-11, 08:38 PM
I tried to believe that after princeys first two games he'd come good... at this rate he wouldnt get start for Sth Tweed reggies and they dont even have an agrade!! Hes deadset scared out there.. and refuses to get tackled he will throw a forward pass or rush a kick to avoid contact..

Positives:(if any)
Forwards mainly both starting front rows still good
Micheals went good


Negatives:
Prince overall:mad:
No bird hurt
Bodene defending outwide, would be good in the middle

Ill throw in idea in there cut princeys salary and give some to friendy

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 08:39 PM
y was capewell at fullback :S sifnt walker
i dnt know if i wanna watch the game now. jsut started in nsw!

As said in other thread he got suspended in QRL for 4 weeks. Capewell did very well at fullback.

Coaster
08-04-11, 08:41 PM
like i said we spread the ball to the wingers we score and i told you taga would earn his keep again:) i just sent an email about things to do to fix our problems to the titans, i doubt they look at it but if they do the season will turn right around for us.

I thought Capewell did great.
I would have Preston half, Zillman 5/8, Capewell 1

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 08:42 PM
I thought Capewell did great.
I would have Preston half, Zillman 5/8, Capewell 1

Yeah I thought the same thing when I named the team above, but I think Presto will be out for a while.

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 08:42 PM
Next week:

1. Capewell
2. Michaels
3. Tonga
4. Tomane
5. Mead
6. Bird
7. Zilly
8. Bailey
9. Friend
10. White
11. Lafframchi
12. Mini
13. Harrison

14. Thompson
15. James
16. Ridge
17. Meyers


nearly the same as mine but i still have taga in my side but this is defiantly the right direction, actually i would swap mead and capewell over since mead runs it back very hard.

CairnsTitan
08-04-11, 08:43 PM
Next week:

1. Capewell
2. Michaels
3. Tonga
4. Tomane
5. Mead
6. Bird
7. Zilly
8. Bailey
9. Friend
10. White
11. Lafframchi
12. Mini
13. Harrison

14. Thompson
15. James
16. Ridge
17. Meyers

I like this team but I would like to see Walker either on the bench or at fullback and Tagatese depending on form on the bench instead of Ridge

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 08:44 PM
I thought Capewell did great.
I would have Preston half, Zillman 5/8, Capewell 1

i assume you meant to quote tamwelg but i agree he did pretty good but i would still have mead at FB and capewel las an explosive winger.tomane back is a must and zilly and bird halves with zilly being short kicker, bird the long one and tomane the place kicker

Coaster
08-04-11, 08:46 PM
This is gonna test who is a Titans fan and who is not, our side looks crap, we are playing like tards. Will be interesting to see who can support a team that is playing like that for a full year.

Coaster
08-04-11, 08:48 PM
i assume you meant to quote tamwelg but i agree he did pretty good but i would still have mead at FB and capewel las an explosive winger.tomane back is a must and zilly and bird halves with zilly being short kicker, bird the long one and tomane the place kicker

Yeah i did mate sorry

Titan_Blue
08-04-11, 08:48 PM
There is no way Prince will be dropped.

I think the backrower in the centres experiment is surely over...as bad as Prince is going, he isn't being given any help in attack when Thompson is in the centres. A dynamic ballrunner like Tomane would take a lot of pressure off him.

Steve Michaels has been on fire.

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 08:48 PM
This is gonna test who is a Titans fan and who is not, our side looks crap, we are playing like tards. Will be interesting to see who can support a team that is playing like that for a full year.

Mate, I'm sure I'll turn grey or go bald, but I'll be there cheering them on regardless.

CairnsTitan
08-04-11, 08:48 PM
This is gonna test who is a Titans fan and who is not, our side looks crap, we are playing like tards. Will be interesting to see who can support a team that is playing like that for a full year.

As long as we don't persist with players that arn't performing and give some young guys a go I will be happy, would much rather see a young guy stuff up and give it a go then an old guy doing nothing

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 08:55 PM
This is gonna test who is a Titans fan and who is not, our side looks crap, we are playing like tards. Will be interesting to see who can support a team that is playing like that for a full year.

ok i know this isn't directed at me bhut let me get something straight for those who think i enjoy being a titans critic, i dont enjoy it, i do this to voice my opinion on how to get better and what performances are good or bad, a good loyal fan does criticise his team in hope they listen to you and turn their woes around and get better. in other words its constructive criticism.

Coaster
08-04-11, 08:55 PM
As long as we don't persist with players that arn't performing and give some young guys a go I will be happy, would much rather see a young guy stuff up and give it a go then an old guy doing nothing

Well said, I agree totally

Coaster
08-04-11, 08:58 PM
ok i know this isn't directed at me bhut let me get something straight for those who think i enjoy being a titans critic, i dont enjoy it, i do this to voice my opinion on how to get better and what performances are good or bad, a good loyal fan does criticise his team in hope they listen to you and turn their woes around and get better. in other words its constructive criticism.

It's not directed at you at all, I don't always agree with what you post. But you have not wavered in who you support. If you didn't bag the team at the moment, you are not watching the game, but this will test the loyalties of some.

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 09:02 PM
It's not directed at you at all, I don't always agree with what you post. But you have not wavered in who you support. If you didn't bag the team at the moment, you are not watching the game, but this will test the loyalties of some.

thats a very fair assessment, titans til i die i always support my fighters and teams no matter what the scenario is, hey if carty responds to the forums ideas or my email then we will turn it around straight away, the crazy thing is we dont need to buy anymore players we have all the talent in the world to be the best team, they just have to be selected first

Boofhead
08-04-11, 09:02 PM
Major shake up needs to happen, HEADS NEED TO BE CHOPPED.

Steelers
08-04-11, 09:03 PM
The lack of confidence that Scott Prince has right now is the biggest factor in how the Titans perform. I just don't know if dropping him to play QLD Cup would actually help him regain that confidence though. Maybe give him a couple of weeks off? I don't know, which is ok, because my name isn't John Cartwright. Some big decisions for him this week.

In other news, Nathan Friend is a welcome boost to the team and Steve Michaels is a gun.

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 09:04 PM
stats from nrlstats.com.au (not finalised yet, but you get an idea)

7. Scott Prince Halfback 1 (7m) runs 11 tackles 6 tackles missed 1 offloads 2 errors 1 penalties conceded

TitanInCairns
08-04-11, 09:24 PM
What a disgrace. I'm a huge fan and will give credit when it's due but wtf is Cartwright doing??? First..we lose Rogers n others in the offseason and they are replaced by Riley Brown and Luke Capwell?? No disrespect to those players but they are not the quality we need to progress.

Secondly...it's the same old undisciplined Titans side who continually give away silly penalties in poor field position. We have no kicking game nor the ability to hold the football. I think it was 10-0 before we even had our second set.

Lastly, I'll admit we have alot of key injuries but playing second rowers in the centers and inexperienced players in the halves and expecting to win is ludacris.

I'm a huge fan of Princey but clearly he is not right. Drop him and let him recover, don't just play and expect him to carry the team.

Fuming with management of the club after our pathetic attempt at recruiting in the offseason and disgusted with the no heart n no commitment shown by the 17 tonight.

Huge fan and will never ever ever give up on them but seriously heads need to start rolling.

Boofhead
08-04-11, 09:24 PM
If Prince's head doesn't get rolled, at least his captaincy should be.

He needs to go back to the basics, step by step.

Bailey with the (C) next to his name for mine.

patskE
08-04-11, 09:27 PM
1. mead
2. vickoy
3. tonga
4. micheals/tomane
5. tomane/micheals
6. zillman
7. prince

need change!

4got about walker :S

Boofhead
08-04-11, 09:27 PM
1. William Zillman
2. Steven Michaels
3. Esikeli Tonga
4. Joseph Tomane
5. David Mead
6. Greg Bird
7. Luke Capewell
8. Luke Bailey (C)
9. Nathan Friend
10. Matthew White
11. Anthony Laffranchi
12. Bodene Thompson
13. Ashley Harrison

14. Ryan James
15. Brad Meyers
16. Mark Minichielo
17. Scott Prince

18. Ben Ridge (If Laffranchi is Injured)

Titanic
08-04-11, 09:28 PM
We are all goddamn Titans fans here ... dispirited maybe but Titans all the same.

We are playing with the gameplan of a one-dimensional second row ... we cover misfiring positions with one-dimensional second rows ... there is a pattern there.

I feel embarrassed for Mead and Michaels watching grass grow; and Capewell and Zillman having to play the yards game; and Friend probing for followers and finding flat-footed forwards. I feel the frustration of Thompson and Tagataese having to learn a new trade on the the run but most of all I hate the thought of what that's doing to the heads of youngsters like James and Ridge.

1. Walker
2. Mead
3. Tomane
4. Tonga
5. Michaels
6. Zillman
7. Capewell
8. Bailey
9. Friend
10. James
11. Minichiello
12. Thompson (Laffranchi looked injured to me)
13. Bird

14. White
15. Henderson
16. Tagataese
17. Prince (the start of a wake-up call)

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 09:33 PM
Prince bench, good call Titanic, a wake up call without kicking the last bit of confidence out of him.

TitanInCairns
08-04-11, 09:34 PM
Why can't Walker get a game? It's a question I'd love to ask Carty, been with us since 07(I think), young exciting fullback and can't get a go.

Noticed alot of people putting Tomane in there side, great ball runner...terrible terrible defender.

titansrawesome
08-04-11, 09:35 PM
Why can't Walker get a game? It's a question I'd love to ask Carty, been with us since 07(I think), young exciting fullback and can't get a go.

Noticed alot of people putting Tomane in there side, great ball runner...terrible terrible defender.

tomane can be wing, walker is suspended

Coaster
08-04-11, 09:36 PM
If Prince had his head right he would see a week in the QRL as a chance to get his confidence, he may need a chance against a slower defense to get his angles right

Titanic
08-04-11, 09:36 PM
Walker should be back next week

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 09:42 PM
Walker should be back next week

After this wekend Walker will have served 3 weeks of a 4 week suspension. He is stiller another few weeks away.

TitanInCairns
08-04-11, 09:42 PM
tomane can be wing, walker is suspended

He is suspended now but has only played 2 games or so in the top grade...I'd have toopi, mead, michaels and Gordon ahead of tomane. I see where ur coming from though.

teke
08-04-11, 09:55 PM
Everything about the Titans needs to be looked at otherwise they are on the fast track to being the Wooden Spooners.

Terrible year thus far.

isaiah
08-04-11, 10:11 PM
As long as we don't persist with players that arn't performing and give some young guys a go I will be happy, would much rather see a young guy stuff up and give it a go then an old guy doing nothing

sorry, but that is not in the titans selection playbook, just keep recycling the same old tired fringe nrl players when you have a wonderful nursery all around you

teke
08-04-11, 10:15 PM
A major reshuffling isnt the answer, it' the STRUCTURE of the play and the intensity of it.

Ball hits the wingers 4 or 5 times (max) in the match, and a try with a few linebreaks come of it. We now have Phil Gould backing up on tele what most are thinking which now puts some emphasis on Carty.

Chaos
08-04-11, 10:36 PM
I'm a huge fan of Princey but clearly he is not right. Drop him and let him recover, don't just play and expect him to carry the team.


Valid point Moorey...Prince is copping it because he is out of form but there is no-one around him to lift the team or inspire Prince back into form.

not sticking up for Prince...if you can't use your shoulder in a tackle you shouldn't be playing.

Even Tigers forth strength half Jacob Miller (19 yo) looked better tonight then all Titans halves put together

GoldCoastTitans100
08-04-11, 10:38 PM
Prince should be dropped

If walker is out next week the team should look like

1. David Mead
2. Steve Michaels
3. Bodene Thompson
4. Joseph Tomane
5. Esi Tonga
6. Luke Capewell
7. William Zillman
8. Luke Bailey (C)
9. Nathan Friend
10. Michael Henderson
11. Greg Bird
12. Mark Minichiello
13. Ashley Harrison

14. Sam Tagataese
15. Brad Meyers
16. B.Ridge
17. James

Mushi
08-04-11, 10:41 PM
So you are all suggesting that to build up Princey's confidence lets drop him to Q cup - sure that will build his confidence up. Ever think it is also because he is playing with a different halves partner every week? Give the guy a break! They are a team and at the moment they are not playing as one. Guys chopping and changing positions each week is not working because they can never gel together. I felt our defence as a whole was not up to scratch tonight and our attack - well .... lets say there were glimpses there of some positives! I think barring injuries etc we need to stick with a team and let them work on it together. Keep on making changes each week and we'll never get there. Certainly not the ideal start to our season - 4 losses and 1 win - JUST!! I know some back to back wins will boost our confidence no end but we need to get there first. Carty hopefully will be looking at video of tonight - seeing how well we played when those wingers got the ball and what a difference it made. Will be interesting to see what he does with Bird back next week too - I know Capewell made a few errors but I didn't mind him at fb and zilly in the halves. Tonga starting to make an impact too and him and Michaels' seem to have a good thing going on - Michaels sees ALOT more ball than Mead! Overall though - the whole team seems to be lacking in confidence but we've been here before and we've gotten back up. Need LOTS of fans out there next Fri night cheering on the boys - they need us to stand by them through this too - don't forget that!

Chaos
08-04-11, 10:43 PM
Zillman has some work to do if he wants to play in 5/8...he was caught out a few times in defense.

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 10:49 PM
Zillman has some work to do if he wants to play in 5/8...he was caught out a few times in defense.

He was?????? I must have missed it, can you point out when?

Chaos
08-04-11, 10:52 PM
He was?????? I must have missed it, can you point out when?

Cowboys scoring one of their first tries down their left side close to line...Zillman came in on decoy runner.

mid field on cowboys left side Zillman wrong footed on switch, led to his miss tackle and try.

GoldCoastTitans100
08-04-11, 10:52 PM
So you are all suggesting that to build up Princey's confidence lets drop him to Q cup - sure that will build his confidence up. Ever think it is also because he is playing with a different halves partner every week? Give the guy a break!

He has been playing first grade for a long time, he is a experienced player.

I would have thought the money he is getting would be a confidence builder.

To be fair we have been giving Prince a break since the start of last season IMO.

GoldCoastTitans100
08-04-11, 10:56 PM
Cowboys scoring one of their first tries down their left side close to line...Zillman came in on decoy runner.

mid field on cowboys left side Zillman wrong footed on switch, led to his miss tackle and try.

Your making it sound a lot worse then it was

Chaos
08-04-11, 10:58 PM
Your making it sound a lot worse then it was

I'm saying he needs time to adapt if you want him at 5/8...he hasn't defended in the front line for a while and it's a hard position to defend.

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 10:58 PM
Cowboys scoring one of their first tries down their left side close to line...Zillman came in on decoy runner.

mid field on cowboys left side Zillman wrong footed on switch, led to his miss tackle and try.

Justed checked the highlights, your right, sorry my mistake. I'll give him the first one, that was a good play decoy play by Thurston and would have fooled most players. I thought the second one you speak about was Prince, so yeah bad effort by Zilly, but as a whole I think his defense is really good, just a little tweek here and there. Not bad at all for someone who hasn't defended in the line for a very long time.

I retract one of my previous comments that all tries were through Princey, he and Zilly must have been changing sides in denfense throughout the match.

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 11:26 PM
Missed opportunities costs Titans against Cowboys

Adam Gardini
8/04/2011 10:24:30 PM

The Jetstar Gold Coast Titans were left to lament missed opportunities after suffering a 22-12 loss to the North Queensland Cowboys at Dairy Farmers Stadium tonight.

The Jetstar Titans were unable to convert scoring opportunities into points in the opening half while the Cowboys made the most of theirs as they raced out to a 22-0 lead.

To their credit, the Titans fought their way back in the second half with winger Steve Michaels scoring one try and setting up another for centre Esi Tonga just before full-time but it was not enough to reverse the damage of the opening 40 minutes.

In the first half, winger David Mead was denied one try while fullback Luke Capewell was unable to handle the ball in another try scoring situation as the Titans were left to face their fourth loss in five matches this season.

The Cowboys were first to score when centre Willie Tonga caught the Titans? defence short on the left edge to give the home side a 6-nil lead.

That lead was extended to 10 points when Johnathan Thurston charged down a Scott Prince kick and raced 60 metres to score.

The Titans were disallowed a try to winger David Mead and immediately afterwards former Titan Gavin Cooper made them pay with a try of his own to give the Cowboys a commanding 16-0 lead inside the final 13 minutes of the opening half.

Another Titans scoring opportunity went begging just before halftime when fullback Luke Capewell dropped the ball after supporting a bust by Sam Tagataese.

From the ensuing set of six, Thurston set up a try for fullback Matt Bowen to give the home side a 22-0 lead at the break.

But the Titans got back in the arm wrestle after the break and were rewarded for their efforts when winger Steve Michaels capped a sweeping backline movement with some nice footwork and a handy 30m run to the try line to give the visitors some hope at 22-6 with 20 minutes remaining.

However, the Titans were unable to reel the home side in, with Tonga scoring a consolation try right on full-time.

www.titans.com.au

Tamwelg
08-04-11, 11:27 PM
North Queensland Cowboys 22 d Gold Coast Titans 12 at Dairy Farmers Stadium

Damien Stannard From: The Courier-Mail April 08, 2011 9:34PM

FOR too long now, North Queensland Cowboys coach Neil Henry has had more questions than answers.

Obvious ones like who will command the No.6 jumper, which forward can strike fear on the edges and how much gas remains in the tanks of Aaron Payne and Matt Bowen spring to mind.

Some answers finally arrived during North Queensland's 22-12 thumping of the Gold Coast Titans in Townsville and two were marked Ray Thompson, Gavin Cooper and plenty.

Captain Johnathan Thurston emphasised his brilliance with a five-star performance.

And Willie Tonga, who has had a quiet start to the season, had his way with young rival Bodene Thompson.

But they alone cannot carry North Queensland to the finals.

They need unfulfilled talent like Cooper to take the step from role player to strike forward and that is precisely what he did.

He started his career at North Queensland before stints at the Titans and Panthers and has now found a home between Thurston and Tonga.

If he can turn this breakthrough into a pattern, then the Cowboys pack, led by Payne, Matt Scott and giant prop James Tamou will run rampant over more teams.

The only question that remains is whether the aimless Titans made them look good.

That can only be settled if North Queensland demonstrate some consistency against the Raiders, Sharks and Sea Eagles over the next three weeks.

Only 13,651 people were at Dairy Farmers Stadium, perhaps a reflection of the hot and cold theme of the Cowboys' start to the season.

So which would it be? The smoking hot unit that put the cleaners through Melbourne a fortnight ago or the tepid mob whose hands let them down against the Eels?

Smoking hot did not do justice to the Cowboys in the first half.

Their left-side trio of Thurston, Cooper and Willie Tonga humiliated their direct opponents.

All scored tries as the Cowboys ruthlessly took it to the Gold Coast.

With fullback Matt Bowen slipping in between them to create doubt as to who would ultimately flick the switch, the Titans' defence looked dumbfounded.

Bodene Thompson, usually a strong defender, had trouble counting the numbers aligned against him and that is where the Cowboys struck repeatedly.

All four of North Queensland's first-half tries were scored down that corridor, with Tonga and Cooper slicing the visitors open with ease.

North Queensland dominated possession and territory, which meant on the rare occasions the Titans did threaten, fatigue forced them into errors.

Thurston bobbed up for two trysaving tackles, one on Ben Ridge and the other on five-eighth Luke Capewell.

Supergoose
08-04-11, 11:35 PM
I got Prince and Zillman mixed up a couple of times too. Was hard to tell them apart when they were on the ground after being brushed by defenders. They're defence cost us the game. Cooper and Thurston and Tonga just pinpointed them and we got hammered.

There is a lot of crap being written on here but Prince being benched or dropped isn't it. It must happen. Thompson was close to our best player. Play him anywhere, it won't matter. Capewell should be our 7 for the next few games. Tomane is a must. I don't think his defence is bad at all, it's not a's good as Bodene's bit look how bad Prince can make him look if you blokes reckon he shouldn't be at centre. Mead is a passenger at the moment - we need to move him to get him some ball. My team for next week is

1. Zillman
2. Michaels
3. Tonga
4. Mead
5. Tomane
6. Bird
7. Capewell
8. Bailey
9. Friend
10. Henderson
11. Thompson
12. Minichiello
13. Harrison

14. Ridge
15. Tagataese
16. Meyers
17. James

White was rubbish tonight and although Henderson wasn't much better he is 10 times the player that White is. Tagataese was okay tonight. Not sure how long Meyers is out but he was good last week. O'Dwyer was solid and I'd have him in if anyone is out. If Mead can't handle the centre spot then we go back to Thompson and keep Chalky on the bench.

Supergoose
08-04-11, 11:41 PM
Did anyone think that ridge actually ever knocked that ball on for the first try? I thought we got smashed by the refs early and never recovered. We fought the whole time and there is still some credit.

bigjim
09-04-11, 01:08 AM
stats from nrlstats.com.au (not finalised yet, but you get an idea)

7. Scott Prince Halfback 1 (7m) runs 11 tackles 6 tackles missed 1 offloads 2 errors 1 penalties conceded

Thanks to Prince by tipping got off to screamer again this week and bloody souths didn't help either.

In my Fox Fantasy I think Prince got about 11 points. Now he's killing my fantasies as well.

Will always back the Titans to win but I will have to use my head from here on in for my tipping.:thumbsup:

C-Whiz
09-04-11, 05:33 AM
I thought Capewell did great.
I would have Preston half, Zillman 5/8, Capewell 1I'd prob have Presto FB and let him rotate with Zilly to keep the defense guessing. Capewell is showing what a bit of time in the majors can do.

As far as teams go, Taga has to get a run somewhere. he and Steve Michaels have been shining lights.


This is gonna test who is a Titans fan and who is not, our side looks crap, we are playing like tards. Will be interesting to see who can support a team that is playing like that for a full year.I can always support the Titans team, but I am failing in my ability to see the management with the same misty eyed romance as when they first started signing talent. Somewhere, someone has lost the plot on who is worth keeping and who isn't. :nope:


The lack of confidence that Scott Prince has right now is the biggest factor in how the Titans perform.

In other news, Nathan Friend is a welcome boost to the team and Steve Michaels is a gun.Both 100%, and I couldn;t agree more.


In my Fox Fantasy I think Prince got about 11 points. Now he's killing my fantasies as well.Crazy to have him in your team. I can't wait for fresh trades so i can move Friendy straight back in. :thumbsup:

Tamwelg
09-04-11, 07:47 AM
stats from nrlstats.com.au (not finalised yet, but you get an idea)

7. Scott Prince Halfback 1 (7m) runs 11 tackles 6 tackles missed 1 offloads 2 errors 1 penalties conceded

Stats updated this morning. He made 13 tackles missed 9, 3 runs for 7 meters

Boofhead
09-04-11, 07:50 AM
Stats updated this morning. He made 13 tackles missed 9, 3 runs for 7 meters

I have no doubt we would of won last night with Riley Brown in the 7...

redwine10
09-04-11, 08:13 AM
At last!!!!!

For the second year now, Scott Prince is becoming more of a liability than an advantage. all other teams have worked him out. They let him run sideways and cramp his outside backs and they wait for the line runners - boof used to score heaps of tries off him but he now only scores the rare barge-over. Scotty should hang them up. He is no longer at pace with the game. His kicking game is crap, he has no running game, his fifth tackle options are poor, he is a turnstile in defence and despite all that, Searly and carty will say that he is brilliant. I AM FED UP WITH THE BULL****!!!

When we win the big away games against the big teams, we do it without Prince - always. Now is the time to reire him.
Also, why would we extend a coach who has done nothing. He has had a team capable of winning and they have gone out of the semi's each time as if they were shot out of a cannon. He has a team with a disgraceful penalty count record over the last couple of years and he continues o paly favourites.

The Sydney media believe the Titans are too beatable because they are too predictable. We have to stop putting people on pedestals when they dont deserve it.

Put Nathan Friend on a pedestal. he deserves it - you know what you will get from him each week and it is first class. But when Carty was asked about him yesterday he said "why is everyone talking about one player when we have 12 off contract this year?" wake up and read the forums and open your ears - he may only have a couple of years left in him but he is the best rake around.

Supergoose
09-04-11, 09:35 AM
The one thing I can't fault about Prince's game last night was the execution of his kicks. Did anyone notice that every bomb he put up (not saying it was the right option) landed within 3 metres the right side of the try line? Don't get me wrong he was rubbish. His grubber got intercepted by Thurston but that was a freak of a play. He also kicked one dead but I thought that was probably the best outcome at that stage of the game. I think Prince can get himself back to his best, but not in the NRL with all of the pressure. Let him have a few weeks off in the Qld Cup, get his mojo back and come and steer the Titans toward a massive season turn around. At the moment he is wearing the other players out by playing sub-par.

Ryan
09-04-11, 09:54 AM
At last!!!!!

For the second year now, Scott Prince is becoming more of a liability than an advantage. all other teams have worked him out. They let him run sideways and cramp his outside backs and they wait for the line runners - boof used to score heaps of tries off him but he now only scores the rare barge-over. Scotty should hang them up. He is no longer at pace with the game. His kicking game is crap, he has no running game, his fifth tackle options are poor, he is a turnstile in defence and despite all that, Searly and carty will say that he is brilliant. I AM FED UP WITH THE BULL****!!!

When we win the big away games against the big teams, we do it without Prince - always. Now is the time to reire him.
Also, why would we extend a coach who has done nothing. He has had a team capable of winning and they have gone out of the semi's each time as if they were shot out of a cannon. He has a team with a disgraceful penalty count record over the last couple of years and he continues o paly favourites.

The Sydney media believe the Titans are too beatable because they are too predictable. We have to stop putting people on pedestals when they dont deserve it.

Put Nathan Friend on a pedestal. he deserves it - you know what you will get from him each week and it is first class. But when Carty was asked about him yesterday he said "why is everyone talking about one player when we have 12 off contract this year?" wake up and read the forums and open your ears - he may only have a couple of years left in him but he is the best rake around.

For the second year now? Pull your head in. His four games this year have been rubbish, but for the previous 2 seasons he has been the best in the comp. The Titans got back to back top 4 finishes with Prince's dominance at #7. He had the Titans top of the tables for all stats relating to a halfbacks role. For the last two years there was more newspaper coverage over revolt for Prince not getting rep selection due to other coaches picking old favorites.

All of the best players go through form dips- Lockyer, Cronk and Thurston included. You can kick them while they are down, but that's about all you can do as a spectator. Before the year is out, Prince will have you all eating humble pie. Mark my words, these posts will be brought up in another thread in due time. Nothing more motivating than a bunch of 'back seat drivers' telling you that you are no good and can't do it. And there's nothing more satisfying than rubbing it in the faces of your critics when you get your form back ;)

As for Cartwright, there is only one coach who has won more games than him in the last two years, and that is 'Supercoach' Wayne Bennett. Broncos went on plenty of losing streaks with him at the helm as well. And better coaches have lost bigger games, Bellemy's $6.5M Storm side lost a GF by 40-0. Add to that his dismal origin record - anyone would think the prick can't coach :rolleyes:

TitanInCairns
09-04-11, 10:18 AM
At last!!!!!

For the second year now, Scott Prince is becoming more of a liability than an advantage. all other teams have worked him out. They let him run sideways and cramp his outside backs and they wait for the line runners - boof used to score heaps of tries off him but he now only scores the rare barge-over. Scotty should hang them up. He is no longer at pace with the game. His kicking game is crap, he has no running game, his fifth tackle options are poor, he is a turnstile in defence and despite all that, Searly and carty will say that he is brilliant. I AM FED UP WITH THE BULL****!!!

When we win the big away games against the big teams, we do it without Prince - always. Now is the time to reire him.
Also, why would we extend a coach who has done nothing. He has had a team capable of winning and they have gone out of the semi's each time as if they were shot out of a cannon. He has a team with a disgraceful penalty count record over the last couple of years and he continues o paly favourites.

The Sydney media believe the Titans are too beatable because they are too predictable. We have to stop putting people on pedestals when they dont deserve it.

Put Nathan Friend on a pedestal. he deserves it - you know what you will get from him each week and it is first class. But when Carty was asked about him yesterday he said "why is everyone talking about one player when we have 12 off contract this year?" wake up and read the forums and open your ears - he may only have a couple of years left in him but he is the best rake around.

I agree with alot of points you raise here, signing Carty till 2016 was way premature, that's alot of wedge we have to hand out if he does leave.


For the second year now? Pull your head in. His four games this year have been rubbish, but for the previous 2 seasons he has been the best in the comp. The Titans got back to back top 4 finishes with Prince's dominance at #7. He had the Titans top of the tables for all stats relating to a halfbacks role. For the last two years there was more newspaper coverage over revolt for Prince not getting rep selection due to other coaches picking old favorites.

All of the best players go through form dips- Lockyer, Cronk and Thurston included. You can kick them while they are down, but that's about all you can do as a spectator. Before the year is out, Prince will have you all eating humble pie. Mark my words, these posts will be brought up in another thread in due time. Nothing more motivating than a bunch of 'back seat drivers' telling you that you are no good and can't do it. And there's nothing more satisfying than rubbing it in the faces of your critics when you get your form back ;)

As for Cartwright, there is only one coach who has won more games than him in the last two years, and that is 'Supercoach' Wayne Bennett. Broncos went on plenty of losing streaks with him at the helm as well. And better coaches have lost bigger games, Bellemy's $6.5M Storm side lost a GF by 40-0. Add to that his dismal origin record - anyone would think the prick can't coach :rolleyes:

Mate we have signed him till 2016, he shouldn't be judged on his previous 2 years, it should be here and now. ATM he is 1 and 4, he is incapable of coaching any discipline into the side and to add to that it doesn't seem like the players are responding to him.

At the press conference last night did he mention our dismal we were once again or rAther how good the Cowboys were.

And I'm sure he had something to do with the purchase of Riley Brown whom is probably the least capable hooker in the NRL.

Ryan
10-04-11, 09:39 AM
I agree with alot of points you raise here, signing Carty till 2016 was way premature, that's alot of wedge we have to hand out if he does leave.



Mate we have signed him till 2016, he shouldn't be judged on his previous 2 years, it should be here and now. ATM he is 1 and 4, he is incapable of coaching any discipline into the side and to add to that it doesn't seem like the players are responding to him.

At the press conference last night did he mention our dismal we were once again or rAther how good the Cowboys were.

And I'm sure he had something to do with the purchase of Riley Brown whom is probably the least capable hooker in the NRL.

At least we know who our coach is gonna be for the next 5yrs, rather than most other clubs over the years who are destabilized over constant speculation on who & when their next coach is gonna be.

He has won more games than any other coach (bar Wayne) in the last two years, yet you want him judged on the teams results of first 5 rounds this season? - Talk about pre-mature :duh2:

If every club took your method in signing their coaches - how many coaches wold stay in a club more than 12mths?

Manly were only one win better off at this stage in 2008 and were copping the same flack the Titans are now. They went on to win the GF 40-0. Their critics had a lot to swallow a lot after that one - I hope you, redwine10 and others alike are hungry when the Titans inevitably turn their season around. It's not a matter of if, but when.

titansrawesome
10-04-11, 12:43 PM
im still backing my pre season prediction of titans at 6th spot, i have a weird feeling its gonna be a dragons-broncos GF though because of lockyer retiring and dragons being reigning premiers that look like they could repeat

TitanInCairns
10-04-11, 04:27 PM
At least we know who our coach is gonna be for the next 5yrs, rather than most other clubs over the years who are destabilized over constant speculation on who & when their next coach is gonna be.

He has won more games than any other coach (bar Wayne) in the last two years, yet you want him judged on the teams results of first 5 rounds this season? - Talk about pre-mature :duh2:

If every club took your method in signing their coaches - how many coaches wold stay in a club more than 12mths?

Manly were only one win better off at this stage in 2008 and were copping the same flack the Titans are now. They went on to win the GF 40-0. Their critics had a lot to swallow a lot after that one - I hope you, redwine10 and others alike are hungry when the Titans inevitably turn their season around. It's not a matter of if, but when.

So let me get this straight if we get the wooden spoon this year you will be happy because Cartwright has won more games then most coaches in the last two years? You can't live on history forever mate. I'm sure we can turn it around too I just think the length of the contract was 2 years too many.

Also as paying fans everyone is entitled to there opinion be it negative or positive. And in my opinion after our finish last year ud think our recruitment would have been alot stronger...it wasn't and look where we are. Tigers next week too. Dunno about you but playing catch up football is not what I thought we would be doing this season after where we finished lady season.

Ryan
10-04-11, 04:46 PM
So let me get this straight if we get the wooden spoon this year you will be happy because Cartwright has won more games then most coaches in the last two years? You can't live on history forever mate. I'm sure we can turn it around too I just think the length of the contract was 2 years too many.

Also as paying fans everyone is entitled to there opinion be it negative or positive. And in my opinion after our finish last year ud think our recruitment would have been alot stronger...it wasn't and look where we are. Tigers next week too. Dunno about you but playing catch up football is not what I thought we would be doing this season after where we finished lady season.
No - I'm just not going to get all hysterical over a poor start to the season and start writing off professionals who have proven their worth in recent times. I see Cartwright's contract as an investment in the clubs stability - he's a coach on the rise, has his hand in rep coaching and has an excellent record with the clubs performance in the last two years.

Rogers was our only loss last year, and he is a once in a generation player who cannot be replaced in a single season of recruitment.

No-one imagined this sort of a start to the season. Premierships aren't awarded in the first few weeks & neither is the wooden spoon. The Titans have improved every year under Cartwright thus far, in one of the most competitive comps in the world - and it's no secret that Prince has been the main man over the years.

Give credit where credit is due, lay off the estrogen, and stop dramatizing like a pregnant woman out of ice-cream.

TitanInCairns
10-04-11, 04:53 PM
No - I'm just not going to get all hysterical over a poor start to the season and start writing off professionals who have proven their worth in recent times. I see Cartwright's contract as an investment in the clubs stability - he's a coach on the rise, has his hand in rep coaching and has an excellent record with the clubs performance in the last two years.

Rogers was our only loss last year, and he is a once in a generation player who cannot be replaced in a single season of recruitment.

No-one imagined this sort of a start to the season. Premierships aren't awarded in the first few weeks & neither is the wooden spoon. The Titans have improved every year under Cartwright thus far, in one of the most competitive comps in the world - and it's no secret that Prince has been the main man over the years.

Give credit where credit is due, lay off the estrogen, and stop dramatizing like a pregnant woman out of ice-cream.

Prince the main man over the years? Yep...but like I said you can't live on history forever mate.

Improvement? Have we improved this year? That was my point...we have taken ten steps back compared to last year.

I'm not being dramatic mate, I'm talking about actual facts as the current NRL ladder and team form has shown. The Sharks have won more games then us.

Anyway think we will agree to disagree. I respect your opinion though. I'm a sports journo what can I say.

Chaos
10-04-11, 06:23 PM
Prince the main man over the years? Yep...but like I said you can't live on history forever mate.

Improvement? Have we improved this year? That was my point...we have taken ten steps back compared to last year.

I'm not being dramatic mate, I'm talking about actual facts as the current NRL ladder and team form has shown. The Sharks have won more games then us.

Anyway think we will agree to disagree. I respect your opinion though. I'm a sports journo what can I say.

I don't think the Titans are that much different from last year...Titans couldn't score when attacking inside the oppositions 20 last year either.
Forwards are still getting down the other end but we're just missing Gorden's length of the field tries.

TitanInCairns
10-04-11, 07:07 PM
I don't think the Titans are that much different from last year...Titans couldn't score when attacking inside the oppositions 20 last year either.
Forwards are still getting down the other end but we're just missing Gorden's length of the field tries.

What I'm saying is after our finish last year I thought the club would look to build on that..but they proved me wrong in the off season.

We are in desperate need of a centre, a 6 and now a decent 9 since Friend is off, which just quietly ridiculous.

Luke capwell and Riley Brown are not the quality we need going for and that's no disrespect to them either just simply my opinion.

Also you can't admirations to win a premiership let alone make the finals if you are gonna rely on wingers to score long range tries. Besides they need to get the ball first.

In 2-3 weeks everyone will be up in arms.

Roll on the tigers.

Chaos
10-04-11, 07:12 PM
What I'm saying is after our finish last year I thought the club would look to build on that..but they proved me wrong in the off season.

We are in desperate need of a centre, a 6 and now a decent 9 since Friend is off, which just quietly ridiculous.

Luke capwell and Riley Brown are not the quality we need going for and that's no disrespect to them either just simply my opinion.

Also you can't admirations to win a premiership let alone make the finals if you are gonna rely on wingers to score long range tries. Besides they need to get the ball first.

In 2-3 weeks everyone will be up in arms.

Roll on the tigers.


I agree with your points but the signs were there last year...and even though we featured in the top 4...we were a long way from winning the grandfinal.

Steelers
10-04-11, 07:12 PM
I just find it funny how much people are panicking so much. This season is only 5 rounds old. It was only a few years ago that the Dragons would constantly lose their first 5 games of the season and then storm home and reach the top 4. That happened 3 or 4 times. Don't throw the towel in yet, and stop rubbishing the players and the coach who have performed so well in the past 2 seasons.

Chaos
10-04-11, 07:24 PM
I just find it funny how much people are panicking so much. This season is only 5 rounds old. It was only a few years ago that the Dragons would constantly lose their first 5 games of the season and then storm home and reach the top 4. That happened 3 or 4 times. Don't throw the towel in yet, and stop rubbishing the players and the coach who have performed so well in the past 2 seasons.

Your right it is only early in the season...I think I'm one that is too critical of the Titans and might back off a bit.

titansrawesome
10-04-11, 07:52 PM
while im aware that the titans will turn it around in this competition you cant afford 1 win out of 5 and cant think not to panic or risk trying to dig yourself out of a crater

TitanInCairns
11-04-11, 12:02 AM
I just find it funny how much people are panicking so much. This season is only 5 rounds old. It was only a few years ago that the Dragons would constantly lose their first 5 games of the season and then storm home and reach the top 4. That happened 3 or 4 times. Don't throw the towel in yet, and stop rubbishing the players and the coach who have performed so well in the past 2 seasons.

I wouldn't say I'm panicking mate, far from it. If in say another month and our form continues then I'm sure everyone will be screaming blue murder.

The competition is that tight this year I don't think you can afford to being playing catch up football, look at the Cowboys and Sharks for example, gone from the basement to playing some great footy. Certainly not throwing the towel in either, I'll continue to support my team through thick and thin and as a fan I'll continue to give my opinion, be it wanted or not.

In regards to rubbishing players and coaches...well after the last month mate, it's a bit hard not when they can't even get the basics right.

Anyway moving back to Brisbane from Cairns tomorrow so will be at Robina for my first of many home games. Hope the boys go balls out.

TITAN PETE
11-04-11, 01:16 PM
Just watched the game for the 1st time , Prince has problems but he's too good a player to have forgotten how to play maybe a flogging in the sand pit with Gilly & what about some 1 on 1 coaching with Joey :surprise:

2 things that could've change the match were when Capewell dropped the pill which then became a 12 point turn around & the other was when JT made the break down the left side & Thompson put the big hit on him which only sent him a little side ways & he passed the ball for their final try, if he makes a ball & all tackle because he was defiantly close enough anything may have happened :rolleyes:

Surfers6
11-04-11, 01:32 PM
The better team won in this one and Thurston completely owned Princey.
There were stages in that game were Prince was really aweful and looked more like an under 20 n their first game.

Is he injured or what?

General Kicking in play was disgusting and Prince never put the defence in 2 minds.

When Prince is playing well he loves the show and goes and it comes off.
At the moment I am nervous when ever he has the ball in his hands.

It comes down to if we had a Marshall steering the ship whould we have won?
Yes, we probably would of.