View Full Version : Round 25: Manly Sea Eagles vs Gold Coast Titans
DIEHARD
06-07-08, 11:52 PM
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Manly Sea Eagles vs Gold Coast Titans
Monday 7:00pm - Brookvale Oval
TITANS
1. Ben Jeffery
2. Jordan Atkins
3. Josh Graham
4. Brett Delaney
5. Esi Tonga
6. Mat Rogers
7. Scott Prince (c)
8. Brad Meyers
9. Nathan Friend
10. Michael Hodgson
11. Anthony Laffranchi
12. Gavin Cooper
13. Ashley Harrison
Interchange
14. James Stosic
15. Will Matthews
16. Daniel Conn
17. Luke O’Dwyer
18. Aaron Cannings
20. Clint Amos
Sea Eagles v Titans Preview
Brookvale Oval Monday 7.00pm
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AFTER 16 season, 344 games and 176 tries, this Monday night match marks the final time Steve Menzies will run onto Brookvale Oval for a regular-season match.
The Sea Eagles should have more than enough motivation heading into this game – send Beaver off on the perfect note, stay in the race for the minor premiership and secure a top-two finish, but the Titans are not without motivators either.
The Gold Coast outfit – still a faint hope of making the finals – were fantastic last Friday night despite going down to the Broncos, with their under-strength forwards pack rolling over the top of Brisbane before Darren Lockyer stamped his mark and won it for the home side in extra time.
On the other hand Manly barely got out of second gear while running in nine tries against a dismal Wests Tigers – a match that was more of a training run than a finals precursor.
Sadly for the Titans, their brilliant fullback Preston Campbell – who was best on ground against Brisbane – won’t make the trip to NSW after it was found he played most of last Friday’s game with a broken jaw. In a massive blow, he will miss the rest of the season and has been replaced at the back by Ben Jeffery.
For the Sea Eagles, reliable lock Luke Williamson will miss a few weeks of footy with a hamstring injury, and Jason King returns from a foot injury to take his place on the bench.
The only other change for Manly is purely cosmetic, with regular back-rower Anthony Watmough named at five-eighth to allow the versatile Menzies to play in his preferred number 11 jersey in the special match.
Watch out Sea Eagles: Scott Prince has made such a positive impact on the Titans’ attack since returning six weeks early from a fractured arm. The Origin halfback is capable of winning a match off his own bat, and he could easily spoil any celebrations Manly have planned for Menzies. Prince has laid on four tries in two games back from injury and is looking increasingly comfortable in the middle.
The Titans are most lethal in the ‘red zone’, scoring 46 of their 80 tries from within 10 metres of the try-line – more than any other team in the comp. A lot of this comes down to the sparkling short-kicking game of Prince, and considering Manly have conceded 42 of their 58 tries from within 20 metres of their try-line, they will need to be on their toes if the Titans get good field position.
Also look for Prince’s excellent passing game to exploit Manly’s weak right-side defence, where Steve Bell and David Williams have been caught out in recent weeks.
Watch out Titans: The Sea Eagles may be coming off a fairly hollow victory against the Tigers, but they will be looking to put the finishing touches on their game before the finals series and could use this match as a way to get their attack clicking into gear.
Steve Menzies, Brett Stewart and Glenn Hall all crossed for doubles against the Tigers, while Steve Bell (17 line breaks) and Brett Stewart (17 tries for the year) continue to be constant threats.
They will also be wary of Manly’s second-phase play, which killed the Tigers last weekend. Manly produced 16 offloads for the match – up on their season average of 13. Adam Cuthbertson (32 offloads for the year), Anthony Watmough (35) and Steve Menzies (39) are the major dangers in this area.
The Titans will need their forward pack to lift again. Manly make more metres per game (1400) than any other team in the comp, far and away more than the Titans’ 1271. Both organisers (Gold Coast’s Prince, and Manly’s Matt Orford) are more effective playmakers if their forward packs are on top.
Where it will be won: Injury has robbed this match of a battle between two brilliant fullbacks, and it could allow Brett Stewart to take the spotlight. Stewart was excellent against the Wests Tigers and his ability to chime in as a playmaker as well as a try-scorer could have a huge influence on this game. If Stewart plays well, Manly should win comfortably.
The History: Since their re-entry into the competition, the Gold Coast are yet to taste victory over Manly, but they’ve come close on occasion. They went down 20-6 in a controversial match last season, while Manly put on several late tries earlier this year at Skilled Park to run away 34-14 winners.
Conclusion: Take Manly. The emotional build-up for Menzies’s farewell should be enough to get them across the line, and the loss of Preston Campbell is a huge blow for the Titans who have been brave all season. But they simply cannot cope with the amount of injuries that have hit them late in the season.
Match Officials: Referee – Jason Robinson; Sideline Officials – Chris James & Jeff Younis; Video Ref – Tim Mander.
Televised: Fox Sports 2 – live 7.00pm (AEDT).
Source: http://www.nrl.com
DIEHARD
24-08-08, 08:42 PM
Only a week away until the big match and there are a lot of factors in play.
Manly seem to be in good form but will they rise to send off Menzies in style?
Will the Titans hold together and not drop their bundle and fight on with the same spirit they showed on Friday night?
It's a shame it will be a Monday night, but I still expect a big crowd and fantastic atmosphere. I'm kind of happy to be attending a game that will honour Menzies. He has been a fantastic rugby league champion on and off the field.
Although I still hope he leaves Brookvale a loser.
Gold Coast Titans
1. Ben Jeffery
2. Jordan Atkins
3. Josh Graham
4. Brett Delaney
5. Esi Tonga
6. Mat Rogers
7. Scott Prince (c)
8. Brad Meyers
9. Nathan Friend
10. Michael Hodgson
11. Anthony Laffranchi
12. Gavin Cooper
13. Ashley Harrison
Interchange
14. James Stosic
15. Will Matthews
16. Daniel Conn
17. Luke O’Dwyer
18. Aaron Cannings
20. Clint Amos
Titans Media Release
Gold Coast Titans
1. Ben Jeffery
2. Jordan Atkins
3. Josh Graham
4. Brett Delaney
5. Esi Tonga
6. Mat Rogers
7. Scott Prince (c)
8. Brad Meyers
9. Nathan Friend
10. Michael Hodgson
11. Anthony Laffranchi
12. Gavin Cooper
13. Ashley Harrison
Interchange
14. James Stosic
15. Will Matthews
16. Daniel Conn
17. Luke O?Dwyer
18. Aaron Cannings
20. Clint Amos
Titans Media Release
WTF!!!!!
oh well, we'll see the effects of this come monday i guess............
Not a bad team, but I'd not have Jeffery, and I'd not have O'Dwyer.
I don't think Jeffery went too bad on the wing, but he never got good service out there. Not sure who I'd pick though. Walker has been ordinary of late, and Rapana has his problems too. I guess really no one can fill Presto's shoes.
O'Dwyer actually played okay at lock a few weeks back, but he really has been more of a liability.
Cowboy Titan
26-08-08, 01:11 PM
Walker won't replace Preston
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/nrl/story/0,27074,24242916-14823,00.html
By Steve Ricketts | August 26, 2008 12:00am
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Struggling ... promising youngster Shannon Walker is out of favour following a run of poor form. / The Daily Telegraph
SHANNON Walker, the most hyped youngster in the Gold Coast Titans' short history, will not be given a chance to salvage something from his season. Titans coach John Cartwright is weighing up his fullback options for Monday night's round 25 match against Manly in Sydney following the loss of custodian Preston Campbell to a broken jaw (http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/sport/nrl/story/0,26799,24229542-5006066,00.html) - but Walker is not one of them.
"Shannon has been playing poorly and does not deserve selection," a forthright Cartwright said. "There are a few options, including Ben Jeffery. Mat Rogers will stay at five-eighth because he and Scott Prince have worked well together there."
Walker, The Courier-Mail's 2007 Queensland Cup player of the year, has played only three NRL games this year, and in recent weeks has struggled in the Toyota Cup under-20 side, particularly under the high ball.
There are suggestions the 19-year-old has not come to terms with the demands of being a professional footballer but club officials remain confident he will prove a good investment. "We will be patient with Shannon," Titans managing director Michael Searle said.
"We have signed him until 2012 and no one here doubts his ability. We'll have a chat to him at the end of the season about the way things have gone this year but it's just one of those things. Some players come through quicker than others."
Campbell saw a specialist yesterday about his fractured jaw and was told he would not require surgery.
"Preston has been told the jaw will heal normally and he does not need a plate inserted," Titans football manager Scott Clark said. "But he is still in a lot of pain because he can't align his jaw and he certainly won't play again this year."
mikeyba
26-08-08, 01:29 PM
I think Jeffery at fullback is a good move.. it is a position he is comfortable with .. more so than the wing... i never saw jeffery as the issue..yer he was high limited and targeted.. he issue was that he had a crap centre inside him... we will not mention 'you know who' i reckon he will do alright.... most sensible option we have at the moment.. unless you move Rogers to fullback and bring Rankin into 5/8 with Prince..hmmm that would be interesting..
TITAN PETE
26-08-08, 02:55 PM
I can hear the Air Raid sirens sounding at Brooky already :nope: , i would've preffered Rogers at the back or even give another 20's player a run with someone like Gordan getting a shot in the top grade :thumbsup:
putting jefferies into fullback is a good option, better than having walker on side. he needs more practice.
GO TITANS :)
no henderson?
he still injury'd or?
dnt know y owdyer is still there argh
MANLY: Brett Stewart; Michael Robertson, Steve Bell, Steve Matai, David Williams; Anthony Watmough, Matt Orford (c); Glenn Stewart, Glenn Hall, Steve Menzies, Brent Kite, Matt Ballin, Josh Perry. Res: Mark Bryant, Heath L'Estrange, Adam Cuthbertson, Jason King.
mmm watmough at 6, we should target him, out of possie and has been found wanting the the past few weeks!
WTF!!!!!
oh well, we'll see the effects of this come monday i guess............
i can hear your screams of agony bro.,...
should be interesting
Coaster
26-08-08, 08:02 PM
I think Jeffery at fullback is a good move.. it is a position he is comfortable with .. more so than the wing... i never saw jeffery as the issue..yer he was high limited and targeted.. he issue was that he had a crap centre inside him... we will not mention 'you know who' i reckon he will do alright.... most sensible option we have at the moment..
well said :clap:
please correct me if im wrong but its still 'possible' for us to make the finals right?
Win both games and then nervously await the results of others?
please correct me if im wrong but its still 'possible' for us to make the finals right?
Win both games and then nervously await the results of others?
Yes, if we manage to beat the team in top spot, then the Tigers, and a heap of other games go our way, it's possible.
DIEHARD
26-08-08, 11:44 PM
It's pretty cool that even in Round 25 we have chance of making it. A very even competition.
It will be good to see how Jeffery goes at #1.
TITAN PETE
27-08-08, 07:59 AM
MANLY: Brett Stewart; Michael Robertson, Steve Bell, Steve Matai, David Williams; Anthony Watmough, Matt Orford (c); Glenn Stewart, Glenn Hall, Steve Menzies, Brent Kite, Matt Ballin, Josh Perry. Res: Mark Bryant, Heath L'Estrange, Adam Cuthbertson, Jason King.
mmm watmough at 6, we should target him, out of possie and has been found wanting the the past few weeks!
The only reason Choc will be wearing the no-6 is so Beaver can play in his no11 jersey as it's where it all started for him at Brooky back in 1994 when he was Rookie of the year :thumbsup:
titanstattman
27-08-08, 08:37 AM
I dont feel to god about jeffeys being at full back if he cant catch the ball on the wing wats the chances of catching it at fb
TITAN PETE
27-08-08, 11:33 AM
I dont feel to god about jeffeys being at full back if he cant catch the ball on the wing wats the chances of catching it at fb
Welcome back Doug , are you out on Bail :laugh:
titanstattman
27-08-08, 12:49 PM
Welcome back Doug , are you out on Bail :laugh:
Yeah just a day release im going again later 2day..:fight:
soz if someone already answered
but where henderosn?
please correct me if im wrong but its still 'possible' for us to make the finals right?
Win both games and then nervously await the results of others?
We need the Panthers to beat the Warriors this weekend...it's our only chance.
Blunt_Beno
27-08-08, 07:06 PM
happy to see ben jeffery named at fullback, i think this is his best position, looking forward to see how he goes.
I think Jeffery has been the scapegoat for a lot of things this season. he has had absolutely zero help from anybody on his wing and was forever having 3 and 4 players jumping at him unopposed
Hope he has a blinder at fb this week, wonder how his last man defence is though
Blunt_Beno
27-08-08, 07:42 PM
I think Jeffery has been the scapegoat for a lot of things this season. he has had absolutely zero help from anybody on his wing and was forever having 3 and 4 players jumping at him unopposed
Hope he has a blinder at fb this week, wonder how his last man defence is though
exactly, he always got critisized when he was outside odwyer, he got one game outside a quality center and gets praised, but for some reason was dropped. he made a few mistakes, but if ya ask me, he didnt do anything bad enough to cost him his spot on the team. pity it has taken preston to get injured for him to return though.
Coaster
27-08-08, 08:19 PM
We need the Panthers to beat the Warriors this weekend...it's our only chance.
You sure??
Warriors have a crap F&A worse then ours, i would rather Warriors win, then lose to Parra, that would have us in front of both
Hope he has a blinder at fb this week, wonder how his last man defence is though
His last man defence is good. I remember a few times where he has run down a player from the otherside of the field and taken him down 1on1 no trouble. He's shown plenty of aggression when under the pump so I think we'll see him put his body on the line to take down the bigger blokes who might break through.
excellent.I feel a bit better reading that. It was my major concern
Coaster
27-08-08, 09:02 PM
In all seriousness, he has to be better then Presto at defence.
In all seriousness, he has to be better then Presto at defence.
I agree.
He might not have the attacking flair and class of Presto, but I can't see anybody running him down in open space - he's bloody fast.
DIEHARD
28-08-08, 12:23 AM
Sea Eagles v Titans Preview
Brookvale Oval Monday 7.00pm
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AFTER 16 season, 344 games and 176 tries, this Monday night match marks the final time Steve Menzies will run onto Brookvale Oval for a regular-season match.
The Sea Eagles should have more than enough motivation heading into this game – send Beaver off on the perfect note, stay in the race for the minor premiership and secure a top-two finish, but the Titans are not without motivators either.
The Gold Coast outfit – still a faint hope of making the finals – were fantastic last Friday night despite going down to the Broncos, with their under-strength forwards pack rolling over the top of Brisbane before Darren Lockyer stamped his mark and won it for the home side in extra time.
On the other hand Manly barely got out of second gear while running in nine tries against a dismal Wests Tigers – a match that was more of a training run than a finals precursor.
Sadly for the Titans, their brilliant fullback Preston Campbell – who was best on ground against Brisbane – won’t make the trip to NSW after it was found he played most of last Friday’s game with a broken jaw. In a massive blow, he will miss the rest of the season and has been replaced at the back by Ben Jeffery.
For the Sea Eagles, reliable lock Luke Williamson will miss a few weeks of footy with a hamstring injury, and Jason King returns from a foot injury to take his place on the bench.
The only other change for Manly is purely cosmetic, with regular back-rower Anthony Watmough named at five-eighth to allow the versatile Menzies to play in his preferred number 11 jersey in the special match.
Watch out Sea Eagles: Scott Prince has made such a positive impact on the Titans’ attack since returning six weeks early from a fractured arm. The Origin halfback is capable of winning a match off his own bat, and he could easily spoil any celebrations Manly have planned for Menzies. Prince has laid on four tries in two games back from injury and is looking increasingly comfortable in the middle.
The Titans are most lethal in the ‘red zone’, scoring 46 of their 80 tries from within 10 metres of the try-line – more than any other team in the comp. A lot of this comes down to the sparkling short-kicking game of Prince, and considering Manly have conceded 42 of their 58 tries from within 20 metres of their try-line, they will need to be on their toes if the Titans get good field position.
Also look for Prince’s excellent passing game to exploit Manly’s weak right-side defence, where Steve Bell and David Williams have been caught out in recent weeks.
Watch out Titans: The Sea Eagles may be coming off a fairly hollow victory against the Tigers, but they will be looking to put the finishing touches on their game before the finals series and could use this match as a way to get their attack clicking into gear.
Steve Menzies, Brett Stewart and Glenn Hall all crossed for doubles against the Tigers, while Steve Bell (17 line breaks) and Brett Stewart (17 tries for the year) continue to be constant threats.
They will also be wary of Manly’s second-phase play, which killed the Tigers last weekend. Manly produced 16 offloads for the match – up on their season average of 13. Adam Cuthbertson (32 offloads for the year), Anthony Watmough (35) and Steve Menzies (39) are the major dangers in this area.
The Titans will need their forward pack to lift again. Manly make more metres per game (1400) than any other team in the comp, far and away more than the Titans’ 1271. Both organisers (Gold Coast’s Prince, and Manly’s Matt Orford) are more effective playmakers if their forward packs are on top.
Where it will be won: Injury has robbed this match of a battle between two brilliant fullbacks, and it could allow Brett Stewart to take the spotlight. Stewart was excellent against the Wests Tigers and his ability to chime in as a playmaker as well as a try-scorer could have a huge influence on this game. If Stewart plays well, Manly should win comfortably.
The History: Since their re-entry into the competition, the Gold Coast are yet to taste victory over Manly, but they’ve come close on occasion. They went down 20-6 in a controversial match last season, while Manly put on several late tries earlier this year at Skilled Park to run away 34-14 winners.
Conclusion: Take Manly. The emotional build-up for Menzies’s farewell should be enough to get them across the line, and the loss of Preston Campbell is a huge blow for the Titans who have been brave all season. But they simply cannot cope with the amount of injuries that have hit them late in the season.
Match Officials: Referee – Jason Robinson; Sideline Officials – Chris James & Jeff Younis; Video Ref – Tim Mander.
Televised: Fox Sports 2 – live 7.00pm (AEDT).
Source: http://www.nrl.com
DIEHARD
28-08-08, 12:24 AM
Looks like Menzies will play 5/8th and only wear the 11 for his last game at Brookvale.
I think Jeffery will have a blinder. But he will be tested by Orford.
he's bloody fast.
that would be his LIGHTNING PACE right.........lol
wade was right all along.........
Hoppy2007Dragons
28-08-08, 10:48 AM
But he will be tested by Orford.
Doubt that, orfords last option kicks last few weeks have been terrible, over the deadball line, or too far before his chasers can put pressure on fullback, resulting in 20 metre taps, the souths game is a perfect example.
Jefferys should be loving it he's up against Orford.
that would be his LIGHTNING PACE right.........lol
wade was right all along.........
What did Wade say?
You sure??
Warriors have a crap F&A worse then ours, i would rather Warriors win, then lose to Parra, that would have us in front of both
If Parra beat the Warriors...Parra get in on 'for and against'
this is the last chance we have at making it to the finals. we need to win this game and the next game to get in the top 8
this is the last chance we have at making it to the finals. we need to win this game and the next game to get in the top 8
Too late skua...the Knights have knocked us out by beating the Storm
The good thing is the boys can relax now and throw the ball around a bit because they have nothing to lose.You usually see teams in our situation pull off some end of season upsets and play much better footy
The good thing is the boys can relax now and throw the ball around a bit because they have nothing to lose.You usually see teams in our situation pull off some end of season upsets and play much better footy
this is what i want to see.....................just a celebration of the year...........everyone to be all smiles and just have fun!............
goldcoastitans
01-09-08, 09:35 AM
i can see an upset
papers tomorrow
MENZIES WASNT EXPECTIN THIS SEND OFF!
:):):)
Rockstar
01-09-08, 09:43 AM
Well just keep singing the mighty Titans song and get under the beavers skin, so we can take another step toward the finals. GO THE MIGHTY TITANS........THE TITANS ARE THE BEST.
craigyd
01-09-08, 01:49 PM
Manly will be under a lot of pressure tonight,Beavers send off will be at the front of there minds as well as the $100,000 minor premiership,Titans on the other hand have nothing to loose and only themselves and there fans to play for,we have seen Manly under pressure in the past and to be frank,under pressure they suffer.Titans to play a free flowing game will cause an upset
kwigibo
01-09-08, 07:42 PM
Double movement much? The backlash from them disallowing too many tries is now we get freaking mulligans.
Boofhead
01-09-08, 07:44 PM
They were too busy seeing if it hit the line or not that they forgot about the blatant double movement.
glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that
kwigibo
01-09-08, 07:49 PM
They were too busy seeing if it hit the line or not that they forgot about the blatant double movement.
He must have given it on the first grounding, taking the ontological view that however sure we can be that anything actually exists, we can't be certain that that wasn't a try, and therefore Matai is the beneficiary of the metaphysical doubt that plagues us all.
If that's the case, how can we keep score in a universe where arguably an infinite number of teams are constantly scoring an infinite number of tries, because we can't be sure that they aren't?
hicksey
01-09-08, 07:54 PM
omg amii sucks tonight
How good was cooper fooling the whole manly team LOL
kwigibo
01-09-08, 08:00 PM
Finally a try, the skinny ten actually helped a bit there.
kwigibo
01-09-08, 08:01 PM
omg amii sucks tonight
He's got an injury too, maybe they should bring out the curtain and the rifle?
Boofhead
01-09-08, 08:01 PM
Hilarious! :p
Also the Southern Legion cameo, good stuff! :D
hicksey
01-09-08, 08:02 PM
diehard made the tv
kwigibo
01-09-08, 08:06 PM
Damn tv and computer in different rooms, did I miss Brad on the telly?
I saw the southern legion but was that brad jumping up and down at the back? They were only on for a sec
Boofhead
01-09-08, 08:25 PM
That was some tough luck there, was a horrible kick my orford and end up with that...
Boofhead
01-09-08, 08:28 PM
Not going too bad here, we are stringing more good attacking plays together than the Eagles and are still in this!
Ben Jeffery got flattened by watmough.Nobody seemed to notice the huge head clash between the 2 though
matai scores
game over boys
kwigibo
01-09-08, 08:37 PM
If Jeffery isn't going to try, why am I watching?
Titan Dave
01-09-08, 08:40 PM
damm we are missing preston... i hate manly so much.. not just cos of tonight... that baby cow blood drinking they do must be doing them some good.. is jeffery a beginner tonight? he doesnt seem to be doing much right
kwigibo
01-09-08, 08:49 PM
damm we are missing preston... i hate manly so much.. not just cos of tonight... that baby cow blood drinking they do must be doing them some good.. is jeffery a beginner tonight? he doesnt seem to be doing much right
They could have shown some confidence in Walker, in a game that doesn't matter it couldn't have hurt, might have done him a world of good. And everything they say he's been doing wrong Jeffery has done twice as much tonight.
Manlys defence tonight has been old school tough & awesome to watch,The type of defence you used to see in state of origin before it got boring but they have attacked the heads of our boys all night long and have arms around our necks in every tackle.
In saying that it's been the best & toughest defensive effort I've seen by any team all year
Good luck to them though,I hope they win the minor premiership over the scum of the south.It would be ok with me for a player like Menzies to bow out a champion in september
and how under rated is david Williams? he's such a good winger
kwigibo
01-09-08, 09:07 PM
Manlys defence tonight has been old school tough & awesome to watch,The type of defence you used to see in state of origin before it got boring but they have attacked the heads of our boys all night long and have arms around our necks in every tackle.
In saying that it's been the best & toughest defensive effort I've seen by any team all year
Old school with the standard 5 metre defense for the home team at Brooky, makes it easier :D
TITAN PETE
01-09-08, 09:15 PM
The best team won tonights game by far & they will will win the minor premiers & then easily beat the Storm if required if not the Dragons in the G.F. :thumbsup:
Supergoose
01-09-08, 09:34 PM
Manly showed how little class they had tonight. They were ahead by plenty but still continued to attack the heads of Titans players. i actually think that the Titans played better than Manly in general play. David Williams, Brett Stewart, Menzies, Matai and Kite were excellent other than that Manly were a bunch of scumbags and were outplayed by the team ranked 12th. I reckon at least two of their players should have been sin-binned tonight - the Michael Robertson professional foul holding back Rogers and the 4th head high in a row should have been marched for repeated infringements of the same nature. The tv didn't even show a good angle of Watmough taking out Conn. There could be a few Manly players watching Penrith take it to them and Melbourne taking out the minor premiership if the judiciary is fair dinkum. While I'm not a huge fan of Melbourne's wrestling I will still be supporting them over the low-life Manly side. I hope neither of them make the final and we can have a repeat of the Super League Grand Final where Brisbane take on the Sharks!
Supergoose
01-09-08, 09:37 PM
And another thing - if Campbell plays tonight we win by 12. Jeffries should not play first grade next season, he needs to star in the Qld Cup before he gets another look in. I hope he's not on too much cash - because we should be trying to offload him if he is.
TITAN PETE
01-09-08, 09:43 PM
:dizzy:
Manly showed how little class they had tonight. They were ahead by plenty but still continued to attack the heads of Titans players. i actually think that the Titans played better than Manly in general play. David Williams, Brett Stewart, Menzies, Matai and Kite were excellent other than that Manly were a bunch of scumbags and were outplayed by the team ranked 12th. I reckon at least two of their players should have been sin-binned tonight - the Michael Robertson professional foul holding back Rogers and the 4th head high in a row should have been marched for repeated infringements of the same nature. The tv didn't even show a good angle of Watmough taking out Conn. There could be a few Manly players watching Penrith take it to them and Melbourne taking out the minor premiership if the judiciary is fair dinkum. While I'm not a huge fan of Melbourne's wrestling I will still be supporting them over the low-life Manly side. I hope neither of them make the final and we can have a repeat of the Super League Grand Final where Brisbane take on the Sharks!
Well done Goose :thumbsup:
You obviously live & die buy your name as the only 2 teams with a chance of winning the G.F are Manly & Stgeorge & your super league dream are just that & won't happen
Boofhead
01-09-08, 10:10 PM
:dizzy:
Well done Goose :thumbsup:
You obviously live & die buy your name as the only 2 teams with a chance of winning the G.F are Manly & Stgeorge & your super league dream are just that & won't happen
I disagree, if the Broncos go into the Semi's with their current roster - they can stir some trouble. Their backs are amazing and their forward pack isn't to shabby either.
Sharks on the other hand are overrated final pretenders.
TITAN PETE
01-09-08, 10:21 PM
I disagree, if the Broncos go into the Semi's with their current roster - they can stir some trouble. Their backs are amazing and their forward pack isn't to shabby either.
Sharks on the other hand are overrated final pretenders.
Their backs are Excellent but don't rate the forwards & expect them to possibly finish in the Top 4 & then fall over week 1 or 2 in the semi's ;)
Boofhead
02-09-08, 12:10 AM
Their backs are Excellent but don't rate the forwards & expect them to possibly finish in the Top 4 & then fall over week 1 or 2 in the semi's ;)
Assuming the ladder will finish up something like this:
1: Eagles
2: Storm
3: Sharks
4: Broncos
5: Dragons
6: Roosters
7: Raiders
8: Knights
Broncos will square up with the Dragons at Suncorp, I'll agree with you that the Dragons will beat the Broncos this game - Dragons really have the wood on the Broncos at Suncorp.
Assuming the Storm/Eagles will smash their opponents, I can't see the Broncos losing with a full strength outfit against the Knights/Raiders/Rooster/Sharks.
Broncos will most likely end up taking on Melbourne, and we can just look back at 2006 regarding that affair. :salute:
I'm just saying, don't ride off the Broncos - with Darren Lockyer in your team anything could happen.
Steel Dragon
02-09-08, 02:00 AM
Broncos will square up with the Dragons at Suncorp, I'll agree with you that the Dragons will beat the Broncos this game - Dragons really have the wood on the Broncos at Suncorp.
You goose, we have the wood on them full stop, not just at Suncorp. They've won 1 of their last 10 matches against us, at Suncorp by 2 points in 2004, and lost 7 in a row since then.
Jason ;)
And another thing - if Campbell plays tonight we win by 12. Jeffries should not play first grade next season, he needs to star in the Qld Cup before he gets another look in. I hope he's not on too much cash - because we should be trying to offload him if he is.Mate, I totally agree with both of your posts. Titan Pete had his rose coloured Manly glasses on last night and is kidding himself if he thinks Manly played like world beaters. Everything in your post is spot on for mine, especially the tiny 10m, the blatant repetitive high shots etc.
Also, I gave Jeffries his last chance last night. He could have proved the doubters wrong, but instead turned the hopefuls around. I wouldn't want to see him again next year until he shows he has earned a spot. Cartwright has far to many backline options than to keep bashing his (and ours!) head against a wall hoping this kid might lift. He might have the ability, but he hasn't shown it enought to keep his spot.
The Titans were woeful in their attacking options last night, especially the first half. Scott Prince had a shocking kicking game and their were no chasers and no pressure. We scored from the only decent kick with chasers. No one running off the ball carrier (no one running at all!), a static defensive line with gaps everywhere........ not our best performance. Towards the end frustration got to us, but we could have won this game with a bit more attacking flair and some more self belief.
Jordan Atkins had a good game though. I'm liking his efforts more and more. Just needs to bulk up a bit and he will be a good little terrier IMO.
Hopefully we can pull it together for the last game on Sunday.
lonegull
02-09-08, 07:06 AM
Hopefully carty's watches the replay and realises how bad jefferies was he had a dead set shocker, surely shannon walker next week got nothing to lose and he cant go that bad, another thing i noticed was manly attacked graham in the first half and he got turnstilled a few times he needs to lift his defence and another thing with graham has he ever beaten a tackle because he seems to always run at the man not the gap, anyway a couple of positives were our wingers atkins was good and i also thought tonga had a real good game, and how good was nathan friend this bloke deserves to be taking buderus spot in the auzzie squad, he has a huge heart.
anyone needing a laugh look at the picture of Ben jeffery on page 42 of the bulletin today.It's him getting flattened by Watmough.The look on his face is like "OMFG what was that??????????" :D
The poor bloke is copping it from everywhere atm
Coaster
02-09-08, 08:59 AM
Classic example of men playing boys last night.
Titans did well, to stay on there feet, after being bashed for the whole game. Friend showed heaps of ticker, he is a great footballer, but cant be expected to do everything himself. Ill say it again our defence is terrible, line speed, dominate aggression, and sheer phyisical power is all missing.
Lafrancri has bought some Gallen plays back from Origin, do us a favor Anthony and get rid of them please. Aggression is not fustration.
Rapana shuld get the fullback spot, he has shown a lot more skill and effort then either of the other options.
Tamwelg
02-09-08, 09:11 AM
You goose, we have the wood on them full stop, not just at Suncorp. They've won 1 of their last 10 matches against us, at Suncorp by 2 points in 2004, and lost 7 in a row since then.
Jason ;)
Ah yes, but then we think back to the 92 and 93 grand finals :D
Tamwelg
02-09-08, 09:13 AM
Mate, I totally agree with both of your posts. Titan Pete had his rose coloured Manly glasses on last night and is kidding himself if he thinks Manly played like world beaters. Everything in your post is spot on for mine, especially the tiny 10m, the blatant repetitive high shots etc.
Also, I gave Jeffries his last chance last night. He could have proved the doubters wrong, but instead turned the hopefuls around. I wouldn't want to see him again next year until he shows he has earned a spot. Cartwright has far to many backline options than to keep bashing his (and ours!) head against a wall hoping this kid might lift. He might have the ability, but he hasn't shown it enought to keep his spot.
The Titans were woeful in their attacking options last night, especially the first half. Scott Prince had a shocking kicking game and their were no chasers and no pressure. We scored from the only decent kick with chasers. No one running off the ball carrier (no one running at all!), a static defensive line with gaps everywhere........ not our best performance. Towards the end frustration got to us, but we could have won this game with a bit more attacking flair and some more self belief.
Jordan Atkins had a good game though. I'm liking his efforts more and more. Just needs to bulk up a bit and he will be a good little terrier IMO.
Hopefully we can pull it together for the last game on Sunday.
Couldn't have put it better myself. With the continual attack to the head by Manly in this game, I put them up there with Cronulla as equal most grubby team in the NRL.
goldcoastitans
02-09-08, 09:31 AM
another thing i noticed was manly attacked graham in the first half and he got turnstilled a few times he needs to lift his defence and another thing with graham has he ever beaten a tackle because he seems to always run at the man not the gap.
ok so here come my stats to help this poor player getting beaten lol
Graham - 42 tackles beat (thats till round 24)
62 Hit ups
and only 3 errors all yr! and only 33 tackles missed all yr
take him compare to our great center Delaney
48 tackles beat (thats again till round 24 stats)
80 Hit ups
14 errors to the yr and 43 tackles missed
so when you compare to him to some of our other centers he actually is a great player to have and is a great work horse ....the only reason they targeted him last night was he was injured from the beginning ...hence the head gear (cause if the cut he got against the Broncos) so they just targeted him for that reason but thanks to big chin Williams it didnt last long before he had to go off
goldcoastitans
02-09-08, 09:37 AM
anyone needing a laugh look at the picture of Ben jeffery on page 42 of the bulletin today.It's him getting flattened by Watmough.The look on his face is like "OMFG what was that??????????" :D
The poor bloke is copping it from everywhere atm
each to there own but IMO he deserved every thing he got last night! :eyebrows:
each to there own but IMO he deserved every thing he got last night! :eyebrows:
I've been trying all year to support BJ when everyone has gotten on his back but seriously it's time to bring in Rapana or Walker to replace him & only bring him back if he warrants a recall.His head went down the second he dropped that very first bomb of the night
I've tried really hard to not get on the backs of any of our players even through a bad patch of form but it really is time for Ben jeffery to go back to the queensland cup to a) regain some confidence and b) form
i saw BJ player in the QLD cup on tv a week ago. he didnt even look at place there. n he was playing in the centres/fullback.
TWO Manly Sea Eagles players facing charges from the fiery Monday Night Football clash with the Gold Coast will avoid suspension. Centre Steve Matai and backrower Glenn Stewart were borth charged with careless high tackles but if they enter early guilty pleas the will not earn enough demerit points to be suspended.
They will be free to take on Penrith in the round 26 match on Saturday night and to play in the finals which start the following week.
Two Titans players, winger Eli Tonga (dangerous throw) and Nathan Friend (contrary conduct) were also charged. Tonga can avoid suspension with an early guilty plea while Friend faces at least a one-week suspension.
The Titans will play their last game of the season against the Wests Tigers at Skilled Park on Sunday so, unless he successfully fights the charge, Friend's season is effectively over.
craigyd
02-09-08, 03:36 PM
As much as i agree that Manly played with plenty of niggle last night,it was that reason that kept the Titans out of the game,a few of our players looked like they wanted to be anywhere but Brooky when the going got rough,a think Friend was trying to amp up our boys to give a little back with his punch.Conn and Delaney were hitting the line harder than most of the forwards and when Titans tackled there forwards they still made 3-5 metres with tacklers on board where when they tackled our forwards they stayed hit and new they were hit.
Jeffries must give a good spit and polish because his playing talents show nothing of a NRL player,cracked me up when Brandy said Jeffreys was running around like an 80 year old,i dont even think they targetted him,he just puts himself in horrible positions,instead of running of Rogers he ran behind him,he doesnt know his own game let alone think that someone else could now what he was doing.
I thought both wingers played great and can see them being numbers 2 and 5 come April next year.
But next time the going gets tough lets hope that the forwards give a bit in return and not have to wait for friend to smack a bloke,gee fellas you let him do your tackles for you dont make him do the dirty work also.
each to there own but IMO he deserved every thing he got last night! :eyebrows:
like i said... it couldnt have happened 2 a nicer bloke.... :)
it is time to go jeffery
I've been trying all year to support BJ when everyone has gotten on his back but seriously it's time to bring in Rapana or Walker to replace him & only bring him back if he warrants a recall.His head went down the second he dropped that very first bomb of the night
I've tried really hard to not get on the backs of any of our players even through a bad patch of form but it really is time for Ben jeffery to go back to the queensland cup to a) regain some confidence and b) form
u won see rapans in the top grade this year... coz of U 20's chances of making the 8 imo
ok so here come my stats to help this poor player getting beaten lol
Graham - 42 tackles beat (thats till round 24)
62 Hit ups
and only 3 errors all yr! and only 33 tackles missed all yr
take him compare to our great center Delaney
48 tackles beat (thats again till round 24 stats)
80 Hit ups
14 errors to the yr and 43 tackles missedOK, I know we already have the tattsman on here, but I think it's fair to say you are our "Stats-man!"
For those who don't know, "Stats-man" is leading his dream-team comp, so he knows a thing or two about who's doing the business out on the field. :thumbsup:
OK, I know we already have the tattsman on here, but I think it's fair to say you are our "Stats-man!"
For those who don't know, "Stats-man" is leading his dream-team comp, so he knows a thing or two about who's doing the business out on the field. :thumbsup:
i believe it was approx 85 points ahead going into last nights game...
so - STATS-MAN how did u fair???
also could you please gives us the stats for jeffery - would love to know just how bad he has been this year - hopefully there will be some good in there to warrant him being selected so many times
You guys are pretty harsh on Jefferies...he's probably trying his best but who's making the decision to put him at fullback?
Some people saw he wasn't ready for a NRL wing or fullback position early in the season and others are coming around now.
We need a coach that can see a players potential before he is placed in the top 17...not a whole season later!
I've still got bad memories of Hilder playing 5/8.
goldcoastitans
03-09-08, 09:30 AM
i believe it was approx 85 points ahead going into last nights game...
so - STATS-MAN how did u fair???
also could you please gives us the stats for jeffery - would love to know just how bad he has been this year - hopefully there will be some good in there to warrant him being selected so many times
hahaha lets just say you guys are talking to the Fantasy League Champ!!! i cant lose next week so i finish the top of Aussie next week :fight: WAHOO
and Stats on Jeffrey:
6 Trys
102 Tackles
21 Tackles missed
37 Tackles beat
9 Hit Ups
32 Errors
18 Games Played
:D
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